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A World On A String

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THE PABLOS

Yeah...I don't know. I'd say I'm borderline compulsive....actually less so than I used to be. I get dedicated for sure...when I'm in the game...I'm there 100%. I'm not always sure of the reasonings behind that.

I started noticing a difference when I went to running seed only...and cut myself off from buying "commercially" sold beans. When this came to be....forcing me to reproduce my own stock and becoming full circle....my focus became much more intense. It became less a hobby and more a way of looking at life. I started looking at everything different...I started seeing cycles....I started seeing design....I started seeing purpose in letting annual plants be annuals. Letting things be things.

The plants are coming to me...I have invested wisely in premium genetics...so that is no shock. So...I've hardly even paddled out very far on my own...my projects are still very juvenile/infant stages...and I'm seemingly waking up from a day dream that has lasted nonstop/full tilt the last 5yrs. I can't really remember well how I have reached this point.

I have to reassess what I'm doing...beyond growing personal smoke. I'd like to eventually bring it down to growing a few outdoor plants every year...and I believe it is because I've had the time and resources that I've gotten so driven with the indoor growing/breeding. I can do more in a yr breeding wise than I could in 5 outdoor.

Realistically I could knock out another 5yrs of projects in this coming yr....but do I need to? If I have all the beans I could ever grow in a lifetime...who am I serving by doing this? Is this compulsive behavior or am I really on a quest for the Grail/enlightenment? Is it worth the entertainment?....what am I trying to prove growing progressively perpetually?

As a simple man....I say..."STFU P and keep rolling out danky stanky plant expressions because that is something you do. Be at peace with it and carry on until the wheels fall off or you move off to the tropics.....further up in the mnts....or out into the desert."
 
As a simple man....I say..."STFU P and keep rolling out danky stanky plant expressions because that is something you do. Be at peace with it and carry on until the wheels fall off or you move off to the tropics.....further up in the mnts....or out into the desert."

YES.That's zen,dude. You're putting out some amazing stuff. Personally I've never seen a grow like yours. It's lighyears beyond what I'm doing. You are THE PABLOS,I think you should keep on PABLOSing.
 
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I find myself dreadfully bored by my symbiotic relationship with these plants.Sometimes I just want to run away but I can't, don't know anything else other than holding the stop/go sign at construction sites...that'll make ya' dream about your old garden and have you running away from the site for a 250W closet.I've been in hard labor jobs most of my life trying to overcome a silver spoon background.Doesn't work. The "guys" on the job never heard of Gogol or Pushkin.I consider myself on the Pushkin end of the spectrum, when I've had enough I'm having a duel with a great enemy, at 5 paces.:) You'll keep on, the plant will make you and you know it!!!:tiphat:
 
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We had excellent seats. The venue was at SDSU Open Air Theater...no bad seats in the whole place....and not that big. Our seats were close enough to make out the faces of the band.

Some peeps are consumed by their gardens (for some it is their source of income and I understand) but I do not want to be consumed by my Canna garden and its projects. I have other gardens as well to tend to....and must fit in work (I consider myself semi retired but still must bring in funding)....trail training and a bunch of other stuff.

I have the habit of getting so involved in my projects that I get tunnel vision and become compulsive. Making attempts to slow things down doesn't seem to work...so I end up pushing and pushing until I'm burned out and throw it all away. I'm making efforts not to be so consumed...to stop being like a machine...it is not easy for me. I'm not bitching...but it's like a disease. I'm like this with everything I do. I don't think it healthy as I believe I'm still driven by ego....and that is not where I want to be.

I'm not attempting to make a living in Cannabis...I have no desire to compete in the biz, cups, or clubs....I just want to do my own thing. It bothers me...knowing all this...that I push my garden along in a fashion that makes it seem to have a purpose beyond producing good results and self satisfaction/enlightenment. That's what gets me questioning my motives and the ego influence. That's what bums me out. It's not the garden or plant expressions...it's my sick retarded drive.

I apologize for my bullshit....the thread was intended to be about my grow philosophy and finding new plant expressions...not crybaby shit about my work load. If this thread is to turn into an egomaniac's attempt for recognition I will shut it down. I do not believe plants need ego to prosper nor do I believe I need ego to prosper with them. Gardening is enlightening....if it is not...something is misdirected. The pathway is long........

Hehe, it is your passion that gives life a purpose. Why apologize for showing some of the madness that is the companion of all truly inspired artists - especially in your own studio? You, THE PABLOS, are slave to yourself, so be a great master :)
 

Barbanegra

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Ah! I love the last two posts pablos. very interesting. strikes close to home... i've been thinking in similar lines...

wtf pour my brains out into the internet? or pix.
wtf did i plant so many? what's the point? why cram the spot full if no means or even intention of harvesting?


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gardens look great. aesthetic factor exists.

but mostly it seems a game we play... adrenaline sport... (at some level an art as well).

hobby... nah. you can't call that hobby.

compulsive compulsive compulsive

trying to not be
 
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Documentary:

Documentary:

If you have time...rent/or get from a library a documentary called...

The Ghost Mountain Experiment.......an interesting failure of a family going "native" back in the 1930's. Pretty local to me. Time has changed it very little.

**I've given up regular television programming....I watch documentaries and some movies....sports. I don't listen to commercials or watch any sort of news. I've never ever bought a new TV in my life.
 
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Last time I'll get them all together

Last time I'll get them all together

Odessa IX1 (Casey Jones X Cindy Jones) batch that are all partially pollinated for the Hell Hound project.

Days flower 51-58....the two at 58 are flushing....the two at 51 are still getting blast of P



Heavy Casey dominant....these expressions are usually not my favorite in flavor department....if she follows the general Casey trend the herb will smoke with some fruit and have a mellow sativa up high....yields like a bitch. Most heavy yielding Casey Jones are of this expression.



The Flimsy TW-like phenotype....lightest yielder....sage/skunk aroma....funky smelling and strong. If she were not tied up she would be a vine growing on the ground



Tropical phenotype....pineapple/tropical bliss....heavy yielder...fucking reeks....probably more to the C99...she is still packing weight on



Vinyl phenotype....smells like plastic/funk/fuel....comes from the Diesel genetics almost positively...no fruit....smells like industrial revolution. She is also still packing weight....she is mighty



I'll attempt to get harvest shots of each when their time comes...for now...you can forget about them. Significance: they are the Odessa parents to the Hell Hounds. I mark them down as important plants in my program. Their beans will be of high value to me.
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EDIT: My favorite Casey Jones expression in the F1 generation (2 separate runs....1 pac of 10 each run...done more than a year apart) was not a great yielder. She was kind of an in between phenotype and tasted like hash. I used her to breed with...I'd have to look in which crosses she was used in. Casey Jones is not a cure all....like all crosses....she must be worked and selected through. I have had success with Casey in all regards....but I've put in the efforts to move her along down the line (into F3) and blended her in many ways with other genetics. I'll still vouch for Casey Jones in about every cultivation and final product department.

Odessa....though filled with Casey....adds other dimensions. It is a less than complicated cross....but the Cindy Jones pops that was involved has produced many great offspring in several crosses. He has left his mark on me and mine. That male was a significant piece to the foundations. Having a stud male is priceless in a small breeding program. I can not repeat that enough...if you have one....you know. He was the only plant EVER of the Cindy Jones cross....the pollen was old...I had maybe 2 beans....and only 1 made it....HIM....that you can not duplicate....that is fate...that is a message from the plant to you....I used the shit out of him for 2 rounds.
 
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when one is truely engulfed by one's own ego,one cannot recognize it let alone speak on it.......to exist beyond ego is a inspired pursuit of harmony, when we tow the lines of enlightenment we often wonder if our pursuit is a masokistic exercise in self indulgence yet we continue on our quest......To be satisfied in ones acomplishments is to be stagnant.........As someone above me said you are The Pablos and The Pablos is you......The Pablos is many thing not just a grower not just a breeder but a husband and a man, a lover, a friend, a trail hound, a artist and more........Thank you for taking us along on your journey on this pathway and let us continue forward,onward through the fog........

yes I know alot of folks here will find my post from left field but for some reason I feel that The Pablos will hear me loud and clear.....
 
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You're a good man Stumpy....Always good to see you around dude. Staying in a state of awareness has many obstacles. It is when you can realize the moments when you are falling out of grace that progress is being made. All greatness comes out of those moments before you fall back into your ego's perceptions. It can not be thought about....pure essence of existence can not be realized by ego....ego is afraid of existence....and will only dwell it away.
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I've been rapping on about the Cindy Jones male. A current run coming up in the veg ranks is Cindy Moon Jones (Blue Moonshine X Cindy Jones).....so I thought to update what it is going on with those plants.

Here's a look at the males...mutated and stout....been flowering for a just over 10 days. Sketchy using mutant males for they are not always viable in their pollen.



Why P?

"As I've said....I believe mutations are the key to finding different expressions. Expressions that will take me away from the consistency of a typical Cannabis population. That is not to say I'm looking for the same Blue line mutations found in Short's work...but if they are prone to abnormalities....perhaps they will have other surprises."

Here's a couple of slightly mutated CMJ females...not slowed nor hampered by their deformities in the slightest.



A 1/2 and 1/2 leave on one of the females



The Blue Moonshine females I used to make Cindy Moon Jones were non mutated typical Blue plants. They were nothing special....yielded well....and smoke was decent enough. I would consider them average run of the mill Blue line plants.

I made the Cindy Moon Jones cross because I knew that the Cindy Jones male would bring out the best in the BMS. I believe BMS to be more to indica side of DJ's work...so it makes it interesting to me to see what the Male can do for it. From what I'm observing in the veg studio.....the variation and slightness of mutations in some subjects is leading to belief I'm going to have an interesting run.

Balls of cured hash....it is written: always have a supply of quality resin

 
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unclefishstick

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meh,whats a little crinkle! LOL you will let us know if that ends up giving you super powers when you smoke it right?
 
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meh,whats a little crinkle! LOL you will let us know if that ends up giving you super powers when you smoke it right?

It's setting up to be interesting. I have some that are very Cindy Jones dominated and can visualize them as flowers....but the slightly mutated females are more of a mystery. Those could be the ones to watch.

I think the males should produce pollen....at least one has a enough normality to him that he should produce. If I can have the same success that I had with the Grape Krush males....I'll be in really good shape for hooking all those Blue line crosses together.

As much as I don't want to think....I can still see shadows of what lurks in plant fiber and soul
 
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sick retarded drive? or pursuit of excellence? ;)

I ran a brutal run yesterday.....a massive ascent on a full sun exposed SW aspect in the heat of the day. I killed it. I ran like a man. I ran with attitude and competitiveness.

It takes drive to train hard by yourself...no one there to push you....no support. You could cheat if you wanted...cut your mileage...walk the steeps....but it would be only fucking yourself and what you are there to do.

It cleared my head....it is not a retarded drive that I run the way I do or that I feel so strongly about my gardens. Many of the things that were said by my friends on here....made perfect sense and were more honest than my confused state and thought process.

I appreciate the support. I am in the pursuit of excellence and I want to reach it in style. It's a true journey.
 
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The Package..."just give me what I came for"

The Package..."just give me what I came for"

Few pages back I was talking about having grown FD's Pot of Gold and how I had found several Hindu Kush leaning phenotypes. Pretty much you are either going to get a Skunk or a Hindu in the F1 generation of those beans....but anyway....I showed you what I considered a Kush leaning Cleveland Sage.

Cleveland Sage= Prune Juice X Hummingbird

Hummingbird= Kali Mist x Chem D Kush X Grape Krush

Prune Juice= Querkle X Grape Krush

With her sister (the BBS expression I keep showing) I moved her to the OD pit in her mid 40's....to catch those natural spectrums and finish in fresh air with birds singing....hummingbirds humming...insects buzzing about

Now she's about done...I'll pick her tomorrow....not drinking even in the heat....she is in her time of dying. Mid 60's and done.



I've been posting some OG pix in CBF's OG Jam thread...but I'll have to include pix in this thread as well.

SFV x Ghost X Ghost (OG Kush) flower tops....one in her mid 60s the other around 60.....they could be harvested but I'm messing with them to get more of a better grip on what the plants can do.

I've no heads up on them at all....I'm going off of only what I can observe. From seed there is only reaction attempts at dialing plants in. One run...one chance....that's all there is and their ain't no more...until you see them again later down the line. Then you may have a bead on their characteristics.



Ignore the naysayers of OG Kush. I find it ridiculous anyone would snub such mighty genetics.
 
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4 Track in my bathroom

4 Track in my bathroom

That's the kind of recording you get off this Jessica Lang cross of mine....exploring...little ventures with only these 2 females....taking her out for a date.....for a little test flight

Jessica Lang= Satechism X Faye Dunaway

Faye Dunaway= Chem DD X Cindy Jones

Satechism= Casey Jones X Blue Satellite 2.2

At days 39 and 43....aggressive blasters....no real direction



The Lemon/Lime Kush plant at day 66 beside the Odessa "Trops" plant at day 54. Donors to the Hell Hounds....citrus and tropics...of much interest to me....looking at them side by side I'm getting my sketch of where I'm going to take them next.



I've watched both these girls with a special eye their entire time in flower. I'm attracted to both.
 
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freshly trimmed Cleveland Sage

freshly trimmed Cleveland Sage

....that Kush leaning expression I showed yesterday. Few nugs

 
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Another good read

Another good read

Narcocorrido by Elijah Wald

I'm running amazing....broke through another wall. Also I have stopped wearing any clothing while I garden indoors. I've completely converted over to nothing but polarized sunglasses. I tell you...it is way liberating and your senses more acute. It ain't some perverted thing....seriously...you have to try it. The other day I just took off my overalls and so it went

All I know is....when I went nude in the garden....my trail runs (where I don't wear much either) broke out of their funk and I felt like a weight came off my shoulders. I've been sleeping like a baby elk....I mean like a sleeping binge...and I rarely sleep more than 5 or 6 hrs....I slept 12 yesterday.

I'm now wearing copper all the time....it helps with the joints and seems to help with the aches (pain killer) of the body. I'm getting more into magnetized metals and that sort of thing. Copper is often lacking in our modern diets...your skin absorbs it through wearing it.

I'm pre Columbian organic locomotion.....I am my own horse
 

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