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new spidermite killer

Corpsey

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makes sense, but what is the stabilizer? if its safe during flower surely they would have to divulge as to what it is
 

VerdantGreen

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ive been using a lavender spray that jaykush told me about
""simply take some lavender sprigs( sticks with flower buds on them) and strip the flower buds off. take a 1 liter bottle, add a 1/4 cup or so of lavender flower buds and fill with water. let soak for 48 hours, then strain the plant material out well. "

ive been diluting this at 1:10 with water and it kills the mites ok. supposed to be fine in flower too, i'll let you know.

p.s. jaykush recomended 1:50 but that didnt seem to kill all the mites when i looked with a magnifier. at 1:10 they were all dead.
 

DocLeaf

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ive been using a lavender spray that jaykush told me about
""simply take some lavender sprigs( sticks with flower buds on them) and strip the flower buds off. take a 1 liter bottle, add a 1/4 cup or so of lavender flower buds and fill with water. let soak for 48 hours, then strain the plant material out well. "

ive been diluting this at 1:10 with water and it kills the mites ok. supposed to be fine in flower too, i'll let you know.

p.s. jaykush recomended 1:50 but that didnt seem to kill all the mites when i looked with a magnifier. at 1:10 they were all dead.

Thanks for sharing :yes: :D
 
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Wonder if you could pass 240v through your plant to electrocute them.
 

foomar

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ive been using a lavender spray that jaykush told me about

This was commonly used as a general insect spray and mild antiseptic before modern agrochems were available , good control on greenfly but less so on more determined pests.

Possibly easier for most people to use lavender massage oil as plant oil levels vary wildly , 10 mill and a drop of detergent in a litre of water , shake vigorously to emulsify , not the best killer but smells delightfull , unlike neem which performs no better.
 

VerdantGreen

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i was advised to use fresh lavander flowers, best when just starting to open - perhaps it has a higher level of camphor which moght help as an insecticide?
if you have a regimented spray routine that you follow whether you see mites or not, then gentle stuff like lavander and neem will work fine.

if you want to wait until you have an infestation before you start spraying then yes you're likely to need something stronger :D
 

Dr. D

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Il stick to Forbid, one spray and i have not seen a mite since and that was 12 months ago.
I know its harsh stuff but i got fed up of spraying constantly with all this shit on the market that really doesn't work for shit.
Does this stuff kill eggs too? Imo if it doesnt kill the eggs then you will be forever spraying...
 

roll it large

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Im wuth the doc on this too you wanna get them quick qith no repeat spraying i use harkers harker mectin at 1 ml ltr not heard of the forbid

as for the new spidermite killer is it even available in the uk?
 
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Im wuth the doc on this too you wanna get them quick qith no repeat spraying i use harkers harker mectin at 1 ml ltr not heard of the forbid

as for the new spidermite killer is it even available in the uk?

I think Forbid is the same as the stuff I have called Floramite which is second to none in veg and I would use without hesitation but in flower would not use it due to the chemical content. Its so strong lol its measured in drips into water IIRC 15 drips to 2 litres and 23 to 3.7 litres or something. I bought it from USA on fleabay worth its money deffo 1 spray and gone in veg but you have to do a proper job and in my flowering room the plants are packed so tightly together under pea netting I cannot get the underside of every leaf :( So I will be trying a fortefog bomb over night which leaves no residue or taste and have read of others using it the room with their ladies and no adverse effects :)
 

Dr. D

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I think Forbid is the same as the stuff I have called Floramite which is second to none in veg and I would use without hesitation but in flower would not use it due to the chemical content. Its so strong lol its measured in drips into water IIRC 15 drips to 2 litres and 23 to 3.7 litres or something. I bought it from USA on fleabay worth its money deffo 1 spray and gone in veg but you have to do a proper job and in my flowering room the plants are packed so tightly together under pea netting I cannot get the underside of every leaf :( So I will be trying a fortefog bomb over night which leaves no residue or taste and have read of others using it the room with their ladies and no adverse effects :)

Not the same, as far as i know Forbid is more effective they can build resistance to Floramite.
I don't think Forbid is even licensed for use in the UK mine came from the US via a friend....Peace
 

foomar

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That Stuff PM Wash works well for cleaning plants that are subject to humid environments. PM Wash breaks through the humidity to clean your plants, leaving them vibrant and healthy.

Pseudo scientific bullshit.

Its only aimed at the canna market , there is no usefull reference to it beyond canna forums , at 35 dollars a gallon.

Similar posts are all over the forums from recently joined members , some first posts read like an advert.

I think its called viral marketing , please prove an old cynic wrong.
 

Darth Fader

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$30 for 99.999% water? Rip-off.

Not saying it doesn't work, but unless the extra .001% is plutonium, this would appear to be mmmmm ..... excessive.
 

MIway

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Pseudo scientific bullshit.

Its only aimed at the canna market , there is no usefull reference to it beyond canna forums , at 35 dollars a gallon.

Similar posts are all over the forums from recently joined members , some first posts read like an advert.

I think its called viral marketing , please prove an old cynic wrong.


Update... the rep told a store manager that the freq enh water is better absorbed & used by the plant, increasing it's vitality, thusly increasing it's natural ability to ward off infection & pests. Nothing about killing the bugs directly, nor the mold, so... wtf?

I did find some info regarding Kangen water & very low acidity water (just water under 2.5pH) & the possibility it kills bacteria & mold. Also pH'd the PMWash & it was 2.4, so it might be based on this pseudoscience. Yet to find much scholarly nor applied.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=215108&highlight=mighty

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=210565&highlight=mighty


And another site I stumbled across...

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/


I'm a strong skeptic. And in this industry... scams are dime a dozen.
 

Bhodi_22

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great thread - I swear by rotation

great thread - I swear by rotation

I guess I'm a low budget cheep skate as I've gotten rid of mites a few times (different gardens) without spending a penny, of course I probably didn't have the penny!

First I'll hit them with soapy water (plain ol dishsoap works but make sure your put the water in first or yer spray bottle will just fill with bubbles!! 1 tsp or so per Liter)

some mites seem to survive or mutate so my second or 3rd application would be cayanne and or nicotine spray (I use stinky butts though not a whole cigrette)

this being said obviously I was dealing with small gardens and even when I use a commercial product I still like to alternate with a home made spray

with something big I'd love to try the alleged one shot mentioned above, spraying again and again can be a lot of work!!
 

foomar

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Hi MIway , was about to ask for a pH reading , seems quite acidic to be spraying on live plant material and PM thrives at low pH.

Pool grade nitric acid diluted to this pH could work , peroxide definately does but a fine balance between damage and results , pence per gallon so worth experimenting.
 

MIway

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I agree... it would seem concerning, but one of those web sites made the claim that plants are acidic in nature & that acidic water is healthy for them... while they simultaneously claim that we are acidic in nature & that highly alkaline is good for us to balance the pH...??? pseudoscience, like you pointed out.

I am curious to run trials with the PMWash & MightyWash... but have to utilize someone else's garden... got mine clean a bit ago, and stayed clean. Just been putting it off cuz simply don't want to go to any of these places... too much risk for the curiosity.

I want to see the effect first hand... know what real chems do, just gotta see about this stuff. Until then, with no real offering of evidence from the companies, still highly skeptical.
 
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cheesey

stop press....'fizzy water kills spidermites!!'

kind of an exageration but also kind of true, heres a heads up for you guys on a new product for dealing with that persistant of all pests spidermites.

mighty wash is water that has been charged with a frequency it is this that kills the spidermites....i know i know it sounds like hocus pocus...what matters is does it work?....well the answer from the people i know who have tried it is an emphatic yes....
mighty_wash_group.jpg

think i will be getting some of this just incase lol . cheers for the heads up :)
 
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