Maine's medical scene

[supersmallgiant]

I just looked again and the senate summary has changed since I posted the links yesterday. I am no lawyer but it looks to me like the senate passed it yesterday afternoon...

 

[supersmallgiant]

http://www.mpbn.net/Home/tabid/36/ctl/ViewItem/mid/3478/ItemId/16794/Default.aspx

 

[emerald city]

alot of that was taken out by amendments....no selling to other cargivers,dispensaries....still 2.5 oz limit etc.....

I believe the law was changed to "a patient may posess up to 2 months supply [10 oz's] at 1 time.

 

[GreenMountain71]

how about the $300 fee for a caregiver? They stated they were trying to only have one $300 fee! Atleast the collective went through!

 

[mdanforth]

limit is still 2.5, dried trim counts against your limit.....no collectives allowed either....

 

[self]

yeah, not as awesome as I originally hoped. I like this bit though -

B. Cultivate up to 6 mature marijuana plants for each qualifying patient who has designated the primary caregiver to cultivate marijuana on the patient's behalf , subject to the limitation in subsection 1, paragraph B on the total number of plants authorized per qualifying patient. A primary caregiver may not cultivate marijuana for a patient unless the patient has designated the primary caregiver for that purpose and the patient has not designated a registered dispensary to cultivate marijuana for the patient's medical use . In addition to the marijuana plants otherwise authorized under this paragraph, a primary caregiver may have harvested marijuana plants in varying stages of processing in order to ensure the primary caregiver is able to meet the needs of the primary caregiver's qualifying patients;

It seems to me that hanging plants and even curing bud falls into this category, what does everybody else think? and what if you freeze your fresh trim, with the stated intent of composting it later?

 

[supersmallgiant]

yeah, not as awesome as I originally hoped. I like this bit though -

It seems to me that hanging plants and even curing bud falls into this category, what does everybody else think? and what if you freeze your fresh trim, with the stated intent of composting it later?

It really opens up ways to hold weight. What you quoted as well as this:

"Prepared marijuana" means the dried leaves and flowers of the marijuana plant that require no further processing

If its still on the stalk it requires further processing and wouldn't count as weight.

 

[Aeroguerilla]

right now i got 2 patients and in my eyes its legal for me to have 20oz on me at all times. 2month supply for each patient.

 

[emerald city]

How do you all feal about TOTAL marijuana legalization,NOT passing??
Personally im glad that it didnt pass..We got enough tourist,s without inviteing in ALL the U.S pot heads into our litle state..Can you imagine the line coming in at the N.H border.

 

[DeezyH]

Can someone clarify this:
So if I read this right, I do not need a medical recommendation to be a primary caregiver?

8-A. Primary caregiver. "Primary caregiver" means a person, a hospice provider licensed under chapter 1681 or a nursing facility licensed under chapter 405 that provides care for a qualifying patient and that has been designated in a written document signed and dated by the patient as a primary caregiver to assist with the qualifying patient's medical use of marijuana. A person who is a primary caregiver must be at least 21 years of age and may not have been convicted of a disqualifying drug offense.

And this says I don't even need to be registered with the state, only need written authorization from a patient?

9-A. Registration voluntary. Registration under this section is voluntary. Failure to register under this section does not affect the authorized conduct for a qualifying patient or primary caregiver under section 2423-A.

I am interested in going the caregiver route and have at least one person already who would be a qualifying patient. I wasn't too keen on the state inspection (now gone) or the registration requirements with the state. But if that is truly well and gone that would alleviate my main concerns.

 

[Tatt2U]

Can someone clarify this:
So if I read this right, I do not need a medical recommendation to be a primary caregiver?

8-A. Primary caregiver. "Primary caregiver" means a person, a hospice provider licensed under chapter 1681 or a nursing facility licensed under chapter 405 that provides care for a qualifying patient and that has been designated in a written document signed and dated by the patient as a primary caregiver to assist with the qualifying patient's medical use of marijuana. A person who is a primary caregiver must be at least 21 years of age and may not have been convicted of a disqualifying drug offense.

And this says I don't even need to be registered with the state, only need written authorization from a patient?

9-A. Registration voluntary. Registration under this section is voluntary. Failure to register under this section does not affect the authorized conduct for a qualifying patient or primary caregiver under section 2423-A.

I am interested in going the caregiver route and have at least one person already who would be a qualifying patient. I wasn't too keen on the state inspection (now gone) or the registration requirements with the state. But if that is truly well and gone that would alleviate my main concerns.

I know that you dont need to be a patient to be a caregiver, Im not a patient and I have my caregivers card.

I might not be correct but I believe that the patients dont have to register with the state if they choose not to, but caregiver do have to register still.

 

[emerald city]

I might not be correct but I believe that the patients dont have to register with the state if they choose not to, but caregiver do have to register still.

I havent read any new revisions saying anything about patients NOT having to register with DHHS.
As a patient i hate the fact that i need to reg.It should be between me and my doctor period....I was also hopeing the law would permit me to sell[recoup costs] any extra dried weight i had to either another patient or to a dispensary.

 

[mdanforth]

patient registration will be voluntary now....

the 2 month supply clause is gone....it's 2.5 ounces per patient.....

 

[supersmallgiant]

I havent read any new revisions saying anything about patients NOT having to register with DHHS.
As a patient i hate the fact that i need to reg.It should be between me and my doctor period....

Emerald, that is the whole reason this bill was written. The whole thing revolves around patient privacy. The other stuff is just a bonus.

9-A. Registration voluntary. Registration under this section is voluntary. Failure to register under this section does not affect the authorized conduct for a qualifying patient or primary caregiver under section 2423-A.

4. It clarifies the definition of "qualifying patient" and removes the requirement of registration for certain authorized conduct of the patient

You will also notice that everywhere that it used to say "registered patient" it now says "qualifying patient"

 

[self]

Can someone clarify this:
So if I read this right, I do not need a medical recommendation to be a primary caregiver?

8-A. Primary caregiver. "Primary caregiver" means a person, a hospice provider licensed under chapter 1681 or a nursing facility licensed under chapter 405 that provides care for a qualifying patient and that has been designated in a written document signed and dated by the patient as a primary caregiver to assist with the qualifying patient's medical use of marijuana. A person who is a primary caregiver must be at least 21 years of age and may not have been convicted of a disqualifying drug offense.

And this says I don't even need to be registered with the state, only need written authorization from a patient?

9-A. Registration voluntary. Registration under this section is voluntary. Failure to register under this section does not affect the authorized conduct for a qualifying patient or primary caregiver under section 2423-A.

I am interested in going the caregiver route and have at least one person already who would be a qualifying patient. I wasn't too keen on the state inspection (now gone) or the registration requirements with the state. But if that is truly well and gone that would alleviate my main concerns.

To be a caregiver one must have at least one qualifying patient with their doctors rec and paperwork, and I'm pretty sure caregivers still have to register with the state (this gives you the card, which is key imo). Now that patients don't have to register with the state, as I understand it all a caregiver needs is to possess the proper documents from their patients to grow for those patients.

I'm a little unclear on this though, does a caregiver still have to pay the 300$ fee on un-registered patients? and if so, how does one go about registering an anonymous patient?

I hope I haven't just confused things more...

 

[emerald city]

Emerald, that is the whole reason this bill was written. The whole thing revolves around patient privacy. The other stuff is just a bonus.

You will also notice that everywhere that it used to say "registered patient" it now says "qualifying patient"

Not to be argumentive,but,is this the new proposed language that needs both house and senate aproval then signed into law by the govenor or has it ALREADY been signed into law.....The dhhs website didnt show any changes as of this am.
Sorry for any confusion as im not very computer savy.Just looking for up to date info ..thanx E/C

 

[supersmallgiant]

Not to be argumentive,but,is this the new proposed language that needs both house and senate aproval then signed into law by the govenor or has it ALREADY been signed into law.....The dhhs website didnt show any changes as of this am.
Sorry for any confusion as im not very computer savy.Just looking for up to date info ..thanx E/C

I don't think your being argumentative. We are having a discussion right? I have been referring to the new amended version of LD 1296 which has now been passed by both the house and the senate. The only thing left is for LePage to sign it.

You can see that both the house and senate have passed it when you view the summary for the bill here: http://www.mainelegislature.org/LawMakerWeb/summary.asp?paper=HP0951&SessionID=9

 

[emerald city]

I don't think your being argumentative. We are having a discussion right? I have been referring to the new amended version of LD 1296 which has now been passed by both the house and the senate. The only thing left is for LePage to sign it.

You can see that both the house and senate have passed it when you view the summary for the bill here: http://www.mainelegislature.org/LawMakerWeb/summary.asp?paper=HP0951&SessionID=9

Thanx for the info .
Now i understand after reading the whole L.D....Hope the gov signs this into law asap.
On another note ,any dispensaries out there looking for an experienced gardener?? as i hear they are now allowed to subcontract out thier "work"....E/C out

 

[Vector Mung]

....Best advice I can give is an appointment with Dr. Sulak, but it is hard to get in.

That sounds creepy as hell, reminds me of the hospital administrator...Mr. Suna

 

[Aeroguerilla]

How do you all feal about TOTAL marijuana legalization,NOT passing??
Personally im glad that it didnt pass..We got enough tourist,s without inviteing in ALL the U.S pot heads into our litle state..Can you imagine the line coming in at the N.H border.

lol i live in nh for a little while fucking nazi state.. i could only imagine the amount of people that would move here if that had passed. I think we need the money to be honest