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I've been pretty "dumbed" down over the years....I still read a vast string of books though. Math just never came to me...even with a tutor. It has always frustrated me for some reason. Basically...I'd say I'm retarded when it comes to math...but not observation.

We have a pretty good Botany program out here in one of our local schools. I won't lie....I attended some classes a few years ago. Mostly they used me for their tree pruning on campus....cheap labor. I never stayed around for another semester...but did get all the books and advised reading. Loved the greenhouses they have. Honestly...I felt like a dirty old man around all the coeds. Now I remember how I flunked out of college in the 1st place. It was all the booty and a strong lack of control.
 

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I've been pretty "dumbed" down over the years....I still read a vast string of books though. Math just never came to me...even with a tutor. It has always frustrated me for some reason. Basically...I'd say I'm retarded when it comes to math...but not observation.

We have a pretty good Botany program out here in one of our local schools. I won't lie....I attended some classes a few years ago. Mostly they used me for their tree pruning on campus....cheap labor. I never stayed around for another semester...but did get all the books and advised reading. Loved the greenhouses they have. Honestly...I felt like a dirty old man around all the coeds. Now I remember how I flunked out of college in the 1st place. It was all the booty and a strong lack of control.
yup,hate math,in nearly all forms too...numbers and me just dont get along.....like with cooking,i can eyeball things all day long...that just doesnt work for baking tho....i can have all the measuring cups and spoons and i still use them wrong....thats why i use vegan organic nutes....organics is like making soup...start with good ingredients and dont use too much of any one thing and you get at least decent soup,chem nutes are more like baking,just a little too much and the pie crust is tough as leather....shoot,i dont even own a ph meter....or a ppm for that matter....
 
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Maaaaannnnn.....I eyeball everything. I dislike measuring shit unless I really really have to. When I mix 2 stroke fuel...I eyeball even that.

I'm a decent cook...no pro....but decent.

Fractions suck....percentages suck....lol...if it is math I flub my way through. King of the eyeball.
 

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That's funny Pablos, I hear ya man on the math, it's the exact same way for me although the last couple years we've entered into a strange affair of sorts with me trying to teach myself more developed concepts. Besides the basics (+,-,x,/) I suck at it. Flunked algebra in 9th grade. Would've flunked it again when I re-took it in 10th grade but my girlfriend at the time had some sway on my study habits. It's funny because it's true. Surprisingly whizzed geometry and then sucked again at algebra II and I vowed never to go near any calculus or trig classes.

I'm not working with my own seedlines like a lot of you guys are so I'm not even mindful of the work involved in understanding a punnet square that's progressed like Unc posted. I'm many stages before that, still collecting and exploring. Finding plants and expressions I enjoy and want to consider keeping around for future use of some sort. I have been re-reading Clarke's Botany the last 4-5 months, trying to make sense of it all. Some of it I got the first read, some of it still makes my head spin.

Using, as chaco mentioned, the intuitive side moreso than the academic. Although I'm trying to use the academic side to help steer the intuitive grasp. Try to internalize what I'm looking for, rather than overanalyze it and not allow the plant to speak for itself.
 

unclefishstick

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funny,all the people that were good at math have us some number of trillions of dollars in debt....maybe us dummies got it right....
 
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That's funny Pablos, I hear ya man on the math, it's the exact same way for me although the last couple years we've entered into a strange affair of sorts with me trying to teach myself more developed concepts. Besides the basics (+,-,x,/) I suck at it. Flunked algebra in 9th grade. Would've flunked it again when I re-took it in 10th grade but my girlfriend at the time had some sway on my study habits. It's funny because it's true. Surprisingly whizzed geometry and then sucked again at algebra II and I vowed never to go near any calculus or trig classes.

I'm not working with my own seedlines like a lot of you guys are so I'm not even mindful of the work involved in understanding a punnet square that's progressed like Unc posted. I'm many stages before that, still collecting and exploring. Finding plants and expressions I enjoy and want to consider keeping around for future use of some sort. I have been re-reading Clarke's Botany the last 4-5 months, trying to make sense of it all. Some of it I got the first read, some of it still makes my head spin.

Using, as chaco mentioned, the intuitive side moreso than the academic. Although I'm trying to use the academic side to help steer the intuitive grasp. Try to internalize what I'm looking for, rather than overanalyze it and not allow the plant to speak for itself.

My brother is 3yrs younger than me....and he understood my math homework better than me. Absolutely embarrassing. As soon as letters and #s come into the equation....I start to panic.

9th grade at the board...in front of kids who understood the Algebra...teacher explaining...and reexplaining....and me not getting it at all...and not being able to fake it. That was my last day in that class...I opted out for lower level retard math classes.

All other classes...I was functioning at... what was then level 3 and even some Level 4....college bound academics. I'd like to go back and kick the shit out of some of my math teachers...they didn't help my mathematic insecurity issues. Made me feel dumb as hell. I used to fantasize about kicking their punk asses....but I'm older now and understand they were just public educators of a lower degree. Weak and fallible.

Reading books has always been my saving grace. My mother turned me on to books at a very young age. She gave me Andersonville to read in the 7th grade. We had to keep checking it out of the library...it's a long text. Took me a long time to grasp what I was reading....while other kids were reading Where The Red Fern Grows....or Dinky Hocker Shoots Smack...or The Day No Pigs Would Die....public education in the late 70's.
 
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I think all of us potheads have done a pretty fair job of eyeballing it over the years.The academic side of growing ends at the hydro shop and I totally agree that all these math wizards have brought the country to its knees....When I hit college in California I was terribly distracted by the women in class, after 4 yrs of boarding school in the NE, Ca was absolutely paradise.I was so happy I just went bonkers, the NE is evil 3/4 of the year...
 
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I am still...to this day...embarrassed about my inability to compute #s and their theories. It seems like something I would be in to...as I believe much of the universe is based on mathematical equations. I realize though....I must work with what I can develop....obviously my math has not developed since the 8th grade. I can honestly say that I have tried....I do not like to be defeated....I did not surrender but have conceded defeat.

Plant breeding I can understand because I can observe. I have always had solid selection powers....be it peeps...plants...or dogs out of a litter. I have not always had control over my crotch....and made many a bad decision over the years due to this lack of control. Cost me at times....but I matured and managed to get past it. Paid back all those student loans without displaying a degree...
 
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Hell Hounds being made

Hell Hounds being made

Yup....pollinated the 1st of the SFV x Ghost X Ghost with the before mentioned blended pollen. This particular plant is turning on fast and I had the time...so went ahead and pollinated her...think she is around 21 days into flower.



I expect the Hell Hound project to be nothing but top shelf caliber product. I have a feeling I'll be working the crosses into something pretty insane.
 
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its funny how different that plant looks as compared to the strains you have been working with for a while...

Dude...straight up once again....I'm blown away by the growth of both the Odessa (IX1) and these SFV x Ghost X Ghost. I believe OG Kush is a sativa dominant....and it has that growth pattern/structure that I prefer.

I'm having trouble... still... telling the two lines apart. They are very similar...the differences will come in flower structure....but even there...I think I'll be showing you guys the similarities and how they compliment each other.

I'm very excited about meshing the Odessa and Kush....more excited than normal. I love OG Kush....love Casey Jones...love C99...

I must ask you DTC99 growers...Do you see where I'd want to blend that in to what I'm doing here? You must be able to see that.

Anyway....I'm so deep here in these expressions....it's going to be an amazing next few months. For me....this will be raising the bar. There is nothing about this group of plants that I don't already love. Very me....I'm going to rip here

EDIT: None of this is possible without the work of: H3ad and ClearBarbedFunk...if I sound like a broken record...I don't give a shit...both those dudes have a lot of influence in my breeding program. I very much am grateful for their work and friendships.
 

unclefishstick

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oh yeah,i saw the dtc99 as a good match for what you have going on right off,and it also has that quality to the high i think you would love on the trail...

should be an interesting progressive pathway!
 
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oh yeah,i saw the dtc99 as a good match for what you have going on right off,and it also has that quality to the high i think you would love on the trail...

should be an interesting progressive pathway!

I knew you would dude. The Cindy will be the binder....and after I get the DTC99 mashed in.... I'm sitting on more similar genetics (that are waiting their assignments)....I'll progress in my usual way: using the common binder and building a pool. Once the pool is swept open and smooth....a continuous rip session in expression.

Guys....anything Thai related...anything African related...is what I'm looking to get into further. Highlands...lowlands...whatever....if you have your ears to the ground and know of these sort of things....please pass the word on to me. I'd appreciate any source info...any info at all.

I think I'm on the path here...at least one of them. Thanks for the help.
 

Barbanegra

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I like maths. I like calculating stuff. I like doing maths with children.
For me mathematics is a collection of elegant and ingenious tools.
My analytical mind likes getting into languages, systems...

No maths in the garden though.
Forces of nature and basic attraction.

...African related -> I like what I got from my Bangi Haze.
I have some different Bangi related stuff posed against Grapefruit, F13xA11, Jacalyn (and a few others, Mandala#1 and esbes Hashplant#2 for the late minis round).
Bangi get's me going. My favourite along the Grapefruit. Energy, focus, magic. Running, moving my body, getting stuff done. Shifts my thinking and perception into magical reality. Just no good for sleep. Powerful smell and powerful high. Sugar drop seldom, only in less Bangi dominated plants (sugar drop is a big issue for me).

My garden has mastered the drought. Heavy snail attack does the culling for me.
F13xA11 look the best so far.
An avant-garde Bangi cross that kept flowering after I put her out smells wonderful -> sweet citrus, like no Bangi thus far.
The Sour Diesel clone is absolute shite. No growth.

Keep having fun and progressing the game muchachos!
 
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I like maths. I like calculating stuff. I like doing maths with children.
For me mathematics is a collection of elegant and ingenious tools.
My analytical mind likes getting into languages, systems...

No maths in the garden though.
Forces of nature and basic attraction.

...African related -> I like what I got from my Bangi Haze.
I have some different Bangi related stuff posed against Grapefruit, F13xA11, Jacalyn (and a few others).
Bangi get's me going. My favourite along the Grapefruit. Energy, focus, magic. Running, moving my body, getting stuff done. Shifts my thinking and perception into magical reality. Just no good for sleep. Powerful smell and powerful high. Sugar drop seldom, only in less Bangi dominated plants (sugar drop is a big issue for me).

My garden has mastered the drought. Heavy snail attack does the culling for me.
F13xA11 look the best so far.
An avant-garde Bangi cross that kept flowering after I put her out smells wonderful -> sweet citrus, like no Bangi thus far.
The Sour Diesel clone is absolute shite. No growth.

Keep having fun and progressing the game muchachos!

The thing is....I want to be good at math. I like how it routes out solutions. I don't understand...my lack of understanding. It seems like it should be just formulas and easy to understand...Black and White.....and I'm attracted to the fact...that it is not like that...otherwise I'd be able to understand it.

My memory does not hold mathematic formulas. I look at them...think I understand them...but turn the page and they are instantly forgotten. Vexing....as I read well and remember things well.

I can't play music either....just as vexing...because I love my tunes and would like to create my own (like breeding my own plants)...I think it must be a brain thing. One part does not work well...like a flickering light...on off on off....off off off

I too....have problems with sugar drops. I notice it often in the morning...especially during a wake and bake session while sipping coffee (hippy speedball). It is an uncomfortable feeling...but I have not been able to narrow it down to Cannabis strain selections. I consider it more a random series of feelings....but I am most sure...that herb influences it in a negative way. Read about it somewhere in the forums...forget where.

I still have F-13 X A11 in my fridge....waiting for the right moment and right running partner for them. I know those will be good. I've read a bit about the Bangi....isn't that in the Congo as well? I can't remember (*note to self...look that up)....I remember Congo having a couple different combos in it. On that note.....the Congo X Grape Krush are looking fine..I'm hopeful they will not all be Congo dominate...so far so good.

OK....checking out....off to the trails....Deer Fly and Rattlesnakes (the flies and the snakes are in #s like I've never seen....everywhere...my flesh is tore up from the flies).....anyway...thanks for all the participation and dialog. It helps me think things out.:tiphat:
 

Barbanegra

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I can't play music either...

Dubi on the first page of the Congo thread said:
We have been breeding with 3 different congolese sativa the past years at ACE Seeds.
We combined 2 congoleses ( Bangi congo and Congo# 3) in our Congo hybrid and a third one which was used for Bangi Haze (congolese x nepalese hybrid).

:tiphat:

Good luck on the trail bro. Scary shit - jumping over poisonous snakes all the time.
I'll now go to the gym and work on gaining some weight.
 
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Having serious problems hitting my goals on the trails. I'm starting to wonder how much further I can go running strictly in minimalist shoes. My feet feel like they are bruised...toes feel jammed...everyday. The shoes are but 6.4oz....no padding....no spare room....not much to them. I'm beating the shit out of them on my hardest trails...very durable shoes. Props to Merrell.

It takes a great deal of concentration to slip your feet through the gaps in the rocks....even in those gaps there are sharp smaller rocks that catch you in the wrong places. It hurts like a motherfucker....and you must be able to meditate in that pain....on top of the other pains distance brings. The longer I can save my feet from rocks...the longer I can go...but once I lose concentration and start getting hit....weakening comes on quick

It is tough running trails in the high desert heat, pitchy terrain and at elevations over a mile high at times. The snakes....the snakes...."Brother snake don't bite me....like you...passing through" *snake chants must be mumbled......is my faith shaken? No...it is not that.

It is a huge mind fuck....that's all it is....can't be a pussy about it. You can not be weak in the garden or in the woods.....there is no room for weakness.
 

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