Why growing with partners wont work...let's hear your opinion

[Yeoman]

Just my 2 cents..

I have had one experience with a partner, and it was great. Our situation was near perfect. I supplied the land, the money, helped with the initial landscaping/setup, and helped with harvest/trim. My partner supplied the genetics in clone form, assisted with the setup, tended during the season, assisted with trimming and delivery. I lived a good distance away from my partner and the garden. Split was 50/50 after our overhead expenses were accounted for.. Lucrative, all while helping out our collective(s).

He is pro, I have money, and most importantly, I stayed out of his hair in regards to the garden/farming..

This was ages ago and we still have joint operations going on today. He is still my best friend.

Regards,

 

[headiez247]

edit- reflecting a year later after losing everything from partner fuck over, my feeling is the same lol. If your gonna have a partner in growing, you better be sure this person is someone you trust your life with. Greed can make even best friends do crazy shit.

 

[Selad0n]

I'm gonna say the main problem will usually be that I do most of the work. It does not tend to benefit me to have a second party involved. I do research, find the best way to do it, and that's the way I do it. Having an extra person involved will not be all that helpful unless they really want to learn. They need to be just as interested in learning as I am. If they are, it is possible to come up with great ideas as a result of two different, educated viewpoints. The key is to have someone who wants to make it happen as much as you and is willing to take the time to learn alot so they can back up what they say. That being said, the problems you have had seem to be more a cause of bad friends. The problems you speak of are the result of extreme immaturity on their part. If somebody had a problem with your text about the carbon filter, I'd tell them to fuck off and I'd never deal with them again. You can't have somebody doing crazy shit like that and then not even being open for discussion about it when you call them out. You can't grow with people that aren't open to criticism. They need to be open minded and have the same goals as you. They need to want to do the best job without being caught. If they're willing to get their ego involved, they're not good enough to grow with. Hell, they're not even good enough to be my friend.

 

[Marshall]

headiez, I feel for ya. At least you have your freedom. You have the knowledge and skills, you will bounce back stronger than ever, and by yourself

 

[Yes4Prop215]

i started with a partner because it really helped on initial costs. splitting everything down the middle helped alot with costs..not so much with returns lol. but we didnt have any problems...everything was even 50/50 from watering to cloning to harvest. the only problems we had was disagreeing with methods...so we decided to basically cut the grow room in half. we could do whatever we wanted on our side of the room, so that there was no blame for any mistakes, because you just fucked you own crops up.

eventually we split our ways....we both never intended to be grow partners for that long. i have my own ideas on what i wanna do, he has his. my partner was a little too pro organic for me...he would use the whole compost tea and talk crap about my nutes...but when my crops came out way better than his i didnt say anything.

im just lucky my partner wasnt a petty person, and honest and business minded. i have a ton of friends i would never want to grow or do business with, as i can foresee problems with their immature party animal money wasting ways.

my advice, if you absolutely need a partner, is to find someone similar to you. if you are quiet and reserved, well then dont partner up with a drug using midnight binger. both me and my old roomate were on the same page about lots of things. we did shifts gaurding the grow, split work evenly, and if there was ever disagreements it would be brought up professionally and calm, not with a dramatic argument like most people seem to do...

 

[250wscrogger]

Had a really bad experience living with a partner and his control freak girlfriend...we originally agreed to split the yields 50/50...when we chopped the first crop these fools are like "yeah we're splittin it thirds"


After I paid for all the equipment/nutes/seeds!!?? I couldnt really do too much of anything about it because the house was in his name so I just took the hit and moved out...when I showed up with the uhaul to get my stuff it was all outside already and the scumbags wouldn't let me in to get my grow equipment!

I won't ever make that mistake again...

 

[Teeg420]

Never again will I have a partner, started with 2 600's and a partner dropped the partner and 6's went solo with 1k's best decision I ever made.

 

[BlueberryLovr]

Never again will I have a partner, started with 2 600's and a partner dropped the partner and 6's went solo with 1k's best decision I ever made.

Smart move! (And I don't just mean the upgrade to 1ks) How many harvests did you guys get through before you cut the partner loose?

 

[Teeg420]

Went through a couple harvest for about a year.

 

[bagend12]

Like others, It has been my experience that partnerships just do not work.
Ive been growing over 20 years, both indoor and outdoor. The first ten of those years were solo, followed by 4 years of a partnership, and than the last 6 years solo.

After I had been growing for ten years, I bought an old farmhouse way out in the country. I had access to both cornfields, and access to a very remote area that had lots of sun, and a water source close by.

I ran into someone that I knew years ago from hanging out and going to shows, and we more or less became friends. I say more or less because he was really pretty shady, and had a reputation that I became aware of only later on.

Anyway, somehow he talked me into teaming up for an outdoor grow. His rationale was that between the two of us we could do much more work than a single person, and double or even triple what we would get by going solo.

The first two years went pretty smoothly, we took turns digging holes, hauling dirt, and really had an equal distribution of labor. When all was said and done, I probably had come away with 1.5x what I would have gotten if I had done it solo.

The next year was the same, and I came away with the about the same yield.

When the third season rolled around, he was around alot at first, and contributed some great genetics that I did not have access to, but after the plants were in the ground, he never really came by. That year the plants had some health issues, and after the split I got less than I had ever gotten before, even when I was solo.

Now we are up to season 4. My "partner" was not around to haul dirt, so I took a risk and drove a pickup truck filled with bags of dirt and manure through the woods in the middle of the night. When planting time came, out of 20 plants total, he contributed 5. Two of those 5 hermied and had to be pulled. For the rest of the season he was probably back there twice. Once to check up, and once to help with nutes.
I, on the other hand, was out at least once a week to check up on things and to perform upkeep after storms blew through. This whole time the only contact I had with my partner was over the phone, with him asking how things are going and basically giving orders. Whenever I told him I needed a hand with something he always came up with some lame excuse...

As the season drew to a close, I struggled with what to do..I had busted my ass the entire summer and was not about to hand over 50% of crop I worked hard for over to someone who did nothing at all.

When it came time to split things up, I gave him the buds from the three plants of his that survived and told him that I had essentially done all the work that year and wasn't about to do a 50-50 split with him. It ended up being a 80-20 split more or less. He wasnt happy, but I was like WTF dude...You left me hanging to do all the work...

Anyway, it turns out that this is S.O.P. for this guy. He "teams up" with people solely to increase his baseline. Afterwards, I talked with others who had some dealings with him, and he does the same thing year in and year out. He will spend a a year two being a "good partner", than in following seasons distances himself and expects others to do the work..

 

[Sandnut]

click-clack. BAM BAM BAM partner down

honestly.. I've grown once with a partner and it worked great but it can be really annoying when you are making any decisions and you can't agree upon it, especially if the other one is obviously not in a miles range as good as you are.
For it to work it should be either a family member or a real tight friend, i mean REAL good. Like one in a million. billions.


1. you have to split everything in half, but you also (hopefully) have half as much to do is it worth it? if not, why not run op at 50% and skip partner?

2. 95% of the partners will snitch, maybe not if ur running a small thing, but when we are talking years of jail, yes 95% will snitch

3. one of you two have to be incharge, in making decisions,wont work in the long run imo

 

[smithsutton]

k ill buy that 1 for a dollar ..

ss ..

 

[ijim]

Growing with a partner for stash is totally different than growing to pay the bills. When paying the bills as soon as you start to prepare a room or plot you are thinking of what you are going to pay or buy. There are a hundred ways to wipe your ass but most people think theirs is the best. The same is true with something as simple as how you pack a pot.There are so many variables in this game that you win some years and you lose some. The losing is a lot harder when someone else is involved. People play the blame game and the shit hits the fan. By the end of the 70s I learned that my desires were mine only and best accomplished on my own.

 

[007.]

I think partners are a far worse idea indoors than out. Indoors everything is too scalable to involve partners (until you get to the organized crime scale where labor division is advantageous). Partnered up with a 20k? Why not rock 10 yourself?

Outdoors GG is different though. Things aren't so modular. You may need partners to pickup/dropoff, or just be there if you have cougars and grizzlies to deal with like I do. Partners are never good, but sometimes in a GG they're necassary.

I find the difference between a good partner and a bad one is how cash strapped they are. A hungry partner is more likely to get pissed off when you don't want to do it all their way.

I'd also never have a partner younger than 23/24. Something important happens to your mind then.

 

[popdog]

"You Can't Do It Alone, Then You Shouldn't Be Growing"

Start small, build your own bankroll. I just don't get what the point or benefit is of a grow partner. F-ing retarded. Seriously. You've been warned, some people insist on learning from experience instead of learning from the experienced. O well.

 

[Cainea]

I will never grow with a partner again (except my wife but she is passive), I tried it once with my childhood friend and lets just say we aint friends no more. After him risking our 2.6KW grow for some lame ass pussy I'd rather have no friends. No friends like him anyway

 

[Weird]

lets be honest

partnerships require two balanced and socially functional people to succeed and this is not the make up of the typical grower

growers quirky at fucking best

how legalization will effect this as more "normies" enter the fold is yet to be seen

 

[AfroSheep]

Im growing with a partner at the moment kinda, My best mate, and we live together with hsi mrs and their kid,
I do it in my room and do all the feeding of the plant, we share the rest of work.
usually go in the room together to get shit done as soon we im home from work.

We are only growing for ourselves and his old man, and there is no conflict at all, i usually have all the ideas being on ICmag allday and being the one doing all the research for the love of the plant,

I dont mind at all, Our brains are so alike we are ensync with ea/other,
so no worries for conflicting ideas,

I also smoke more so in the end i will have more of the spoils .

Peace n Pot,
Hope more of your have a great mate who you can grow with like me.

Afro.

 

[soil margin]

I don't think a small scale organic soil grower and a commercial scale chem hydro grower can be partners. Their world views pertaining to cannabis are too different.

I have been partners and it worked out alright, we had very similar visions of what we wanted and how to get there though. I think without that it's very difficult if not impossible.

 

[emerald city]

At some point if your "company/business" grows large enough you will need to work with others..Ive found out the hard way always striving to get bigger[make more money] isnt always better...Greed usualy rears its ugly head and thats the begining of the end...
I will never again take on a partner as co owner of a business..I prefer to surround myself with loyal family members who know who is in charge,and what part they are expected to play......
everyone should think of business relationships as acting as a subcontractor,thier own boss..less power strugles and petty jealousies arise...My humble 2c