so ive just discovered mites, and im doing a perpetual

[Yes_I_Am]

what should i do ive read all the different things about mites, ive only got them on a couple of fan leaves atm im on it ive had to get rid of 3 fan leaves from 2 plants in 4 days. im fortunate enough to be able to get them early as my plants are spaced out. im worried to death about this i have just got some neem oil but i now understand its not a treatment but a prevention, gutted, they are only on my late flowering plants so far.

can i just keep on top of them by cleaning everything with a hoover them pounceing on them everytime i see them.

 

[Ganja D]

Here is what I would do. Go buy 3 or 4 ORGANIC sprays that will kill mites or gunk up their mouths and prevent them from feeding. I use Azatrol,monteray garden insect spray,need oil,and organicide.
Spray plants ever 72 hours with lights off,rotating products each spray. Turn of grow room fans(but not exhaust or intake) for a few hours to let the spray evaporate of the leaves slowly each time.
After 2 weeks if the mites are under control just spray every week or week in a half as a preventative. You can spray till the end of the 5th week of flowering if you absolutely need to,but try not to spray flowering plants after 3-4 week into bloom.
Also spray clones,seedling,or younger plants at half strength at first.
Good luck

edit,just saw the mites are on late flowering plants. I'd say just spray with plain water and keep your room humidity down. Pull off webs with your fingers if you need to and harvest as soon as possible,maybe even a little early if they look to be spreading fast. Don't spray neem oil on plants late into flower,it will mess up the taste.

Also,mites always start spreading fastest on weaker plants. You'll probably notice the plants with the most mites will be less healthy or slower growing than others. It's because weaker plants have weaker immune systems and mites have an easier time attacking plants with less natural defense like natural oil on leaves or toxins. Watch out they can breed at alarming rates on sick or weaker plants.

 

[F. Dupp]

I learned this the hard way so take my advice. Dont use neem, predator mites or any of the non-toxic bullshit. It doesnt work for shit.

Run a search on Floramite and Forbid. Then buy an ounce of each off ebay. 2 sprays of each will eradicate mites. Do not use Floramite on plants that are late in flower, as it stays in the plants for 3 weeks or so.
Since you arent infested yet, let them stay on the plants that are late into flower, but spray everything else down ASAP. This will kill any mites on the other plants, and any mites that move to those plants. After you harvest the plants with mites, the little bastards will have nowhere else to go, but to the treated plants which will send them straight to hell.

 

[krunchbubble]

pyryth TR bombs, the little white cans.....

make sure it is 4.0% pyryth and not the .4% like dr doom.....

bomb every 3 days, 3-4 times to get rid of infestation.....

 

[Dr.Dank]

Yeah what krunch said... Or try to kill them my hand or control them if you don't have too many plants... The only way I've seen mites die is with The bombs every 4 days and avid spray strong chemical but killed every single one of them on early flowering.... Latest

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

My prized male plant in my mother room was just covered in cobwebs in less than 18 hours.

I was amazed...and severely frightened for all of my mothers...

I completely drenched my mom room with Floramite SC yesterday TWICE and I wake up this morning and find live spider mites on a plant...

When I say drench I mean twice I laid them on their sides and flipped them 4 different directions to get every single speck of the plant.

I just popped a pyrethrum fogger and I've been using spinosad since they first appeared on the one male.

These things are evil...I'd have flipped out if they were ever seen in my currently flowering room...

Can't agree with the poster quoted more. If you ever see these things immediately nuke everything over and over again.

Ok, I may have possibly finally won...Spinosad, pyrethrum, pyrethrin, and Floramite SC flying everywhere every 2 days. I used a different pest control every 2 days for 8 days now. That is all 4 twice in short...

I am not on west coast with 'superbugs' resistant to everything and this is what it took to get it to the point where I 'may' have won. I still have doubts as live specimens were seen as late as 2 days ago and also after seeing these things massive reproduction cycle...

Screw the every 5-10 day BS every 2 days was all that seemed to anything and I consider my invasion a very light one...It started on only one plant and I immediately treated it.

I absolutely drenched my plants top to bottom in whatever I was using unless it was a fogger. Next time I will most likely dunk the entire plants in floramite in a 5 gal bucket...

Just updating and I did win with no more spraying than stated above 12 days since that post and mite free.

Only thing that worked for me.

 

[Stress_test]

I learned this the hard way so take my advice. Dont use neem, predator mites or any of the non-toxic bullshit. It doesnt work for shit.

Run a search on Floramite and Forbid. Then buy an ounce of each off ebay. 2 sprays of each will eradicate mites. Do not use Floramite on plants that are late in flower, as it stays in the plants for 3 weeks or so.
Since you arent infested yet, let them stay on the plants that are late into flower, but spray everything else down ASAP. This will kill any mites on the other plants, and any mites that move to those plants. After you harvest the plants with mites, the little bastards will have nowhere else to go, but to the treated plants which will send them straight to hell.

Wow man I couldn't disagree with that any more if the DEA said suggested it.

Separate out the plants that are early into or not budding yet and spray em down good with Neem oil, it will kill most of the bastards.

Use a shop-vac to suck the suckers off of the budding plants and run down to Walmart or a nursery and get a jug of "Safers Insect Killing Soap" and spray the budding gals down. Make sure to get the under side of all the leaves good.

After a few hours mist em all down with a water rinse and 1 crushed and dissolved aspirin. While you're at it add 1 crushed aspirin per gallon of water to you feed/water regime. It will help build the plants immunity and fight off the effects of the mites, while strengthening any that aren't already infested.

Be careful with any that are in the last 3 weeks though and get em good and dry. I have even reversed the shop-vac and gently blow dried buds before.

Fuck those poisonous chemicals on budding plants man, it'll ruin your crop.

 

[Guest3498]

 

[Yes_I_Am]

im in the uk guys can i get spinosad over here and is that the comany name or a active ingredient

 

[Ganja D]

active ingredient. I would also incorporate other things though.

 

[F. Dupp]

Wow man I couldn't disagree with that any more if the DEA said suggested it.

Separate out the plants that are early into or not budding yet and spray em down good with Neem oil, it will kill most of the bastards.

Use a shop-vac to suck the suckers off of the budding plants and run down to Walmart or a nursery and get a jug of "Safers Insect Killing Soap" and spray the budding gals down. Make sure to get the under side of all the leaves good.

After a few hours mist em all down with a water rinse and 1 crushed and dissolved aspirin. While you're at it add 1 crushed aspirin per gallon of water to you feed/water regime. It will help build the plants immunity and fight off the effects of the mites, while strengthening any that aren't already infested.

Be careful with any that are in the last 3 weeks though and get em good and dry. I have even reversed the shop-vac and gently blow dried buds before.

Fuck those poisonous chemicals on budding plants man, it'll ruin your crop.

Go ahead and try all the bullshit non-toxic methods. The spidermites will love you for it.

And the shop vac is gonna fuck up your plants even worse than the mites.

I had a perpetual grow with 256 plants going at once when I got a mite infestation from 1 clone. I fought them for 4 months with the nontoxic remedies and they only got stronger.
After using nicotine for awhile I had mites trying to bum cigarettes. And they must have been mexican mites cause the homemade pepper spray shit had no effect and they used the neem oil to slick their hair back. They just mated with the predator mites.

If you have a couple plants you might be able to pinch them all to death or whatever, but if you have a real grow going, you better get some poison. Floramite and Forbid dont do anything to harm your plants. They are made for people who grow prize roses and shit like that. Spidermites on the other hand DO fuck up your plants. Dont bother making them uncomfortable. KILL THEM.

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

active ingredient cool thing about spinosad is most retail stores sell a version of it

I listed only chemical names of most because that is what you need is the different chems cycling because they can be resistant to start with or can grow a resistance.

Mine were extremely hard to kill...I am all for using organic when possible but when your moms and crop are risk, nukem, unless you are too close to harvest to do it safely.

 

[Yes_I_Am]

i will be treating everything that is 3 weeks and under in flower every 6 days, i will be trying to find spinosad and what other chemicals, i know im being a bit slck but do you know any uk product names i could go for. cheers so much for the help guys +rep to you all

 

[Solidopc]

Canadian xpress spray safe dissolves mites or kills them at least on contact, ive used it and its good. Pretty cheap too. No need to dilute, just spray away.

Bad news, i run a perpetual, and ive had mites twice, and eacn time the only way ive been able to completely get rid of them, is to shut down the grow and clean out everything. Managed to get rid of thrips, and fungus knats while still growing, but never the deadly mite.

Good luck, you'll need it with them bastards.

 

[F. Dupp]

Is posting links to other sites cool?

This much will rid you of your problem.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Floramite-SC-1-...108?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25615bd49c


http://cgi.ebay.com/FORBID-4F-MITIC...745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb1ae0da1

 

[Yes_I_Am]

how bad did they get solid, ive had 2 leaves with them on 4 days ago then today i found another 1 on a different plant over the other side of the room, i suppose im pissin in the wind thinking i can get rid by removing the leaves b4 they spread, they are the little green n brown ones.

 

[Yes_I_Am]

turns out i wasnt pissing in the wind thinking i could just remove the infected leaves, lol.

i hate to speak to soon but its been over a week since i removed the mite leaves and ive got no more mites as far as i can see, yay. i guess if you get it early your laughing

 

[qbert]

I learned this the hard way so take my advice. Dont use neem, predator mites or any of the non-toxic bullshit. It doesnt work for shit.

Run a search on Floramite and Forbid. Then buy an ounce of each off ebay. 2 sprays of each will eradicate mites. Do not use Floramite on plants that are late in flower, as it stays in the plants for 3 weeks or so.
Since you arent infested yet, let them stay on the plants that are late into flower, but spray everything else down ASAP. This will kill any mites on the other plants, and any mites that move to those plants. After you harvest the plants with mites, the little bastards will have nowhere else to go, but to the treated plants which will send them straight to hell.

Is posting links to other sites cool?

This much will rid you of your problem.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Floramite-SC-1-...108?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25615bd49c


http://cgi.ebay.com/FORBID-4F-MITIC...745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb1ae0da1

These guys are dead on.

Forbid & Floramite. Rotate them, use each, just to be safe about letting mite populations develop resistance.

These two are veg time only use though.

Some AzaMax or Azatrol can help the ones flowering, but mites are known to develop resistance to these quickly, so don't rely on them.

You could also try a combo of Avid, Hexygon (kills eggs where Avid only gets mobile mites), and Stirrup M (pheromone, attracts mites to the killers to improve effective coverage - but I can't find Stirrup M anywhere).

Shuttle Miticide is another solid product, similar to Forbid in that it transports through the plant tissue to make sure mites come in contact with it.

 

[Diamonddss]

Some AzaMax or Azatrol can help the ones flowering, but mites are known to develop resistance to these quickly, so don't rely on them.

IVE READ NUMEROUS post saying this is one of the few things mites DO NOT DEVELOP resistance too. In fact i read numerious times including from Rez they forbid and avid work great but must be rotated as mites devolope resistance to them. But most want bigger knockout power

i use azamax. I dont have anything huge going(always less than 24). It does work great. Even in flower. It does take time and if your in a full infestation it does not have the knockout power of avid and forbid. Larger grows would be a pain to keep up with azamax application as at first every 5 days. but after a while every 2 or 3 weeks and i might suggest ladybugs from time to time.
I read out in cali some mites are showing resistance to even the most potent poisons. but azamax does work but you must be persistant. The choice is yours. I wont use those pest strips either as sometimes i make edibles and im not eating poison. Remember that.

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

In the UK the best thing I found was TORQ, Talstar here in Spain, not for sale to the public in the UK, in my local Garden Center here, some UK growshops sell it under the counter.

As with any treatment, always add a wetting agent - Surfactant - Soap .. all the same thing, you loose the surface tension, so the leaf is 100% wet, not just got big drops running around some of it.

You would be amazed how far a good old spraying will go with just water and a wetting agent, especially the blasting effect physically moving them and the eggs. Seeing how much rain my buds can take here, I think most indoor gardeners would be shocked at how many hours of drenching most buds can actually take, indoors a good spray and then a bit of a blast dry with the fans is unlikely to rot many buds, IMO.

CO2 Fire Extinguishers work well on budded plants, just do not go too far and freeze the plant, this does actually work...

Good Luck ;-)