We can't discuss illegal activity as per TOU...I am out.
How do you establish a safe address?
- Thread starter JKD
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May I rephrase? I'm don't condone sending beans against the recip's knowledge, even though I don't think it would get em popped. Depends on the circumstances.
The logic is that of relaying packages through means of 3rd parties as a safer alternative, thus distracting the origins of the true recipient and sender.
Cojito
Active member
"hyperbole aside" - lol - and you're a moderator? how 'bout you link to a few articles/reports detailing all the folks getting killed, robbed and beaten over seed delivery.
you cannot be stealthy (re: tell no one) AND tell friends your getting seeds sent to their house. you just can't. so either you lie (people lie all the time), or delivery to anywhere but your own address, box or drop is out.
I may have been confused as to what you meant by 3rd party. I thought you meant the mailman would possibly face charges as an accessory or something for delivering the mail which is his job lol...sorry if I got it confused.
there is no such thing as a truely safe address....if you put it in someone elses name you are making them liable and whos to say they wont snitch.....
for a the safest possible way, you would need to steal someones identity(VERY ILLEGAL dont do this), create an ID in their name, and rent a p.o. box (requires two forms of photo ID) or a small office/apartment under their name....
but seriously for seeds? just mail it under the previous tenants name or a fake business address...and dont mail it to your grow. use common sense....
for a the safest possible way, you would need to steal someones identity(VERY ILLEGAL dont do this), create an ID in their name, and rent a p.o. box (requires two forms of photo ID) or a small office/apartment under their name....
but seriously for seeds? just mail it under the previous tenants name or a fake business address...and dont mail it to your grow. use common sense....
Cojito
Active member
exactly. plausible deniability.
I too have felt the frustration at not getting straight answers on security questions, I too wish I knew how to have a safe addy without involving familiy or friends. In other words, without violating rule #1 of not telling anybody. I am not saying I advise it or condone it, but I know of people who have had seeds delivered like 50 times, some cash and some cc purchases and some freebies. They did not have a problem. How are they going to know that there are seeds in there anyway? And if the company you are doing business are not total boneheads, the cc statement will say something like " ABC enterprises" instead of "ganja seed and bong shop". Again, how are they going to know from that? I don't think reputable companies like Sboo would offer that option if it is so unsafe! And as for discussing illegalities, aren't we showing a double standard here or at the very least splitting hairs?! Almost everything here discusses illegal activities! Oh no wait we all live in med states and have our papers right?
I noted the using of any and all 3rd party courier services as any and all are at risk of interceptions.
My definition of contraband puts no originating clients at risk being that contraband can be defined using descriptions of legality, but the root of the phrase is more so related to obtainable values. With that said contraband is actually the happenstance (a chance occurrence) that's derived out and measured of value. Any occurrence of interception (whether physical and/or intellectual) is specifically depended on a separate acting entity choosing to appropriate any gain of values presently owned and insured indefinitely.
We agree on this.
TreeTopHi
Member
I 2nd it. I would be ashamed to call some of you friends lol. Talking about having stuff sent to friends without them knowing whats being sent. Thats not to good of a friend lol.
here's the rub - i've not yet seen anyone's door get kicked in on a seed order
maybe it's out there, and my paranoia feeds my search
i've only seen the stories of 'polite' leo that come a knocking
not that this would excuse using a friend
R
Rysam
I send everything to my name at my last address, my mother in law lives there now. I know I have roughly 10 minutes from the time they leave there to do as much as possible.
10 minutes is a loooong time in slo-mo land.
10 minutes is a loooong time in slo-mo land.
darko_G
Member
dont get this twisted strainhunter iv read your threads and have respect for you and do look for your name when im browsing through. no one is discussing illegal activity unless iv missed a post. but when a thread such as this is posted, dont be stupid. if there was nothing illegal then a po box is the answer. making the thread useless. the tou's protect icmag, again dont be stupid and read between the lines, fyi it wasnt an attack against you i was jus sayin that if someones is involved then shit should be disclosed. simple. anyway i jus got in from work and its getting light, time for sarnie spliff and the sack.
and who ever mention seeds? in thought we were talking anything that could cause a problem.
and sorry about double posting
I'm pretty sure that Mustard, in his own snarky way, was simply trying to take umbrage with the idea of considering any of our fellow humans "scum."
I think if you rephrased and said "jerk" or "douche" he'd not argue.
He's merely trying to illustrate that the "us and them" mentality is arguably WORSE for society as a whole than the admittedly douchey act of having illegal seeds delivered to your friends house without their knowledge.
He's not saying it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
I think if you rephrased and said "jerk" or "douche" he'd not argue.
He's merely trying to illustrate that the "us and them" mentality is arguably WORSE for society as a whole than the admittedly douchey act of having illegal seeds delivered to your friends house without their knowledge.
He's not saying it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
Anyone setting up a PO box with weak fake ID may also be setting themselves up for a bad experience with a postal inspector imagine getting snagged due to an investigation started over ID fraud from the PO box.
Cojito
Active member
I'm pretty sure that Mustard, in his own snarky way, was simply trying to take umbrage with the idea of considering any of our fellow humans "scum."
I think if you rephrased and said "jerk" or "douche" he'd not argue.
He's merely trying to illustrate that the "us and them" mentality is arguably WORSE for society as a whole than the admittedly douchey act of having illegal seeds delivered to your friends house without their knowledge.
particularly since so many folks (perhaps even a majority) consider cannabis users scum.
it does seen kinda douchie, gutless even, to send seeds to a friend's or relative's house and let them take the potential heat. i mean, if we're brave enough to defy federal law, we should be brave enough not to shift the risk to others. but things are not always so black and white. sometimes, (given the overzealous actions of the dea and local police) exposing friends or relatives to risk can't be avoided. for example, what if you believe secrecy is paramount and have seeds sent to your own flat. are you a douche if you fail to inform your roommates?
stonedwarrior
Member
got a friend who owns a legit business? have it sent there. as a completely clean business owner/operator, dude has 100% deniability, and knows NOT to send the piggies my way.
