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The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

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Eatatjoes

Check out this wasp trying to drag a spider up into my container. I think it's going to lay eggs in the paralyzed spider so the babies have instant food when they hatch.

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GreenHands13

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some picture of some of the 300's gonna mix a few more and do 20 100's the single plant picture is a cotton candy i received from a friend its sour d. x uk cheese should be nice outside the clones are super lemon haze, lemon kush, strawberry cough, blue dream, green crack, bog seeds sour bubble, and kryptonite. i have some bigger blue dreams, green cracks, white widows, dj shorts blueberry, cotton candy's, strawberry coughs, and cherry kush's that will fill the 300's there all anywhere from 12 to 24 inches the clones will fill the 100's the first week of june. everything for the 300's are alredy acclamated and in a hoop house

if i get these 300's planted by june 1st with plants that are 2 to 3 ft tall do you guys think i could pull a minimum 5 lbs per 300? and with the 100's 10 inch clones on june 1st do you guys think i could pull a minimum 2lbs per?

TG thanks for the info on the bigger main line tubing im using the 1/2 inch tubing that has the emitters already in place from drip works there only 1 gph do you still think i should still go with over 1" tubing?
 

nomaad

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1gph PER EMITTER. a 300 gallon pot will take at least 30 emitters at 12" spacing coiled in the pot, meaning 30GPH for the whole pot. You will water the zone for about an hour to saturate. Math is your friend. YMMV based on waterholding capacity and drainage in your medium.

With healthy (from clone to harvest) plants of vigorous genetics, you should be able to count on 5 from a 300.
 

nomaad

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TG: I am about to do a test where I take the coil off a random selection of pots and put it into a kiddie pool to test how close to my calcs I am actually getting out of the emitter tubing. I will be testing 3 out of 10 pots per zone and will be noting position in the ring and distance from the source. I'll let you know how much variation from spec I find.
 

GreenHands13

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1gph PER EMITTER. a 300 gallon pot will take at least 30 emitters at 12" spacing coiled in the pot, meaning 30GPH for the whole pot. You will water the zone for about an hour to saturate. Math is your friend. YMMV based on waterholding capacity and drainage in your medium.

With healthy (from clone to harvest) plants of vigorous genetics, you should be able to count on 5 from a 300.


appreciate it nomaad. by 1 gph i was meaning every emitter TG had recommended that i use over 1" tubing for my main line cause i was only going to use 1/2" or 3/4" so i was wondering if he still thought i should use over 1" with the small emitters? and on the 100's do you think 2 lbs pretty standard nomaad?

just got these cuts when i went for my six month in lake co. white widow and blueberry small but i got a few bigger ones that are about 12 inches
 
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TG: I am about to do a test where I take the coil off a random selection of pots and put it into a kiddie pool to test how close to my calcs I am actually getting out of the emitter tubing. I will be testing 3 out of 10 pots per zone and will be noting position in the ring and distance from the source. I'll let you know how much variation from spec I find.

make sure you adjust for losses or increase from tubing size connections etc., I'm in to hearing what you find out I have a couple places I'm going to use the drip emitter tube on because I have no power.
 

nomaad

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i have 3/4" mainline and 1/2" to each coil. 10 plants per zone. 25 emitters per pot.

the theory with these emitters is that as long as you are within a certain psi range they emitters will give exactly 1GPH each...within a large range that *should* account for variable pressure at different pots due to the different tube sizes, angles, etc that you bring up. So if the psi drops from 20 at the beginning of my system to 10 at the farthest flung pot, TECHNICALLY, it shouldn't make a difference.

On a side note, i am thinking about adding 4x 360 sprayers onto each pot to facilitate even watering by starting with a uniformly hydrated top layer... hard to get with a coil of emitter tubing. (Not that the plants didn;t seem to be perfectly happy with an emitter-only paradigm)
 

feenom

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12" spacing ? I used the 18" on my depo smarties because I planted them close but I'm a little skeptical on using these inlines for my full seasons as I don't feel like there is enough versatility...last year on my full seasons I went 1" pvc down the rows then came off with 1/2 rings around the plants - about 6' diameter...then off these rings I came with some 1/4" spaghetti line , 6 of them about 2ft length each so i could follow the plants canopy, 2 gph emitters on those....

i just feel like i need more coverage....maybe i should just KISS and rock the 12" inline emitters and scratch any sprayer dreams.....hmmmm
 
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Butte_Creek

^^ been there done that. never again.

feenom-yeah i'm debating the same thing, 4 mini sprayers or 1/2" inline emitter tubing coiled. i love the simplicity of the 1/2" emitter tubing and it seems the "safest", i don't know why. might not be. but still haven't figured it out. sprayers seems deluxe though.

edit: oh yeah, my drip irrigation will be for h2o strictly, makes it so easy when figuring out my irrigation not having to worry about fancy filters and clogged emitters, thank god. i am actually unsure how one would avoid a clog with drip and organics outdoors... anyone answer that for me? obviously some sort of filter. but organics always creates some kind of green algae gunk that clogs my filters indoors and messes with my flow...
 
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Eatatjoes

I rock the spray wand for my cannabis, the veggies are on auto though.

I'm in need of some advice if you guys can help me out, I'm wanting to transplant tonight. I've got three empty smart pots and I can't decide which plant to put in which pot. I've got one 100 gal and two 65 gallon sp's I've got a Sensi seeds Early Skunk in a 3 gallon and a big bud in a three gallon they are between 18 and 20" tall, I've got a cut of bubbleberry and a cut of Headband S1A just rooted.
I'm thinking about ditching the headband S1A cut because I've got one big Headband S1B in a 100 gal sp already, then the bubbleberry cut would get it's own 65 (The hb S1A cut isn't from the same plant as the hb S1B so I'd be losing this pheno and not get to grow it out, both of the Headband S1 plants are from bag seed, I had to chop one of the hb's, the plant that the hb cut came from because it was going to be too big for my setup) If I ditched the hb S1A cut then I could use the 100 for one of the Sensi girls. The alternative is to plant both cuts in the 100 gal and put the Sensi Seeds plants in the 65's.
I'm just uncertain whether the Early Skunk or the Big Bud will need the 100 gallon, they are suppose to be early finishers.
Does anybody have enough experience with these Sensi strains to tell me how big they usually get and what harvest timing I should expect? I know putting two different plants in one pot can be an issue in many ways so does anybody think that one Headband S1 from seed be that much different than another HB S1 from the same sack of meds? Any opinions are very welcome, thanks everyone. :tiphat: joe
 
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michael68

Do you guys mainly take care of your gardens yourself? Besides harvest and trimming of course.

Is it possible to tend to say, a 25 plant plot with 2+ pound plants alone?
 

localhero

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^^ been there done that. never again.

feenom-yeah i'm debating the same thing, 4 mini sprayers or 1/2" inline emitter tubing coiled. i love the simplicity of the 1/2" emitter tubing and it seems the "safest", i don't know why. might not be. but still haven't figured it out. sprayers seems deluxe though.

edit: oh yeah, my drip irrigation will be for h2o strictly, makes it so easy when figuring out my irrigation not having to worry about fancy filters and clogged emitters, thank god. i am actually unsure how one would avoid a clog with drip and organics outdoors... anyone answer that for me? obviously some sort of filter. but organics always creates some kind of green algae gunk that clogs my filters indoors and messes with my flow...

i ran teas through a 1/2 poly to dripworks down sprayer set up. instantly clogged the inline filter to the point of nearly burning up my pumps. then tried to run the system without the inline filter to see if the itty bits would squirt through the sprayer heads. that didnt work, had to remove every single sprayer head and clear it by sucking the bits out of the back end of the sprayer.

basically nothing i tried worked to spray teas. the solution was to pump the compost tea through a 75' 3/4" hose with a solids handling pump. that worked like a charm, plus youre able to adjust feedings for each plant. beats running 5 gal buckets up and down your plot.

that was teas so im sure it would work for any other type of organic liquid fert.
 
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Eatatjoes

Looks pretty nice, but real spindly. Mine have stems that are bigger than my middle finger when they are two feet tall.
 
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