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shuswap
can you use h202 the the roots excel?
A friend who works at a hydro store has been doing side by sides with it, and he reports it is the same or surpasses RE in all the different variables, plus the kickass price.
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cyberwax
Im not sure but i doubt it. Would like the answer for this aswell, a well documented one that is.
ive heard good things about the bio-root too. which is a good thing because i have about 10ml of RE left, and im not paying $70 for that again. its good, but not worth that much cash. its kinda like liquid piranha/tarantula, im sure its amazing shit, but im not paying $170/L. i even thought about humboldt nutrients version of RE, still a tad high at about 42 bucks. bio-root at $17 for the win
id say i saw a 5% (who can really judge?) increase in root growth w/ RE. ive never used a GH product other than FloraClean for my pre harvest flush, but like toohigh said, its gotta be some good shit.
Good shit... Mine went bad after a year or so and started to see weird shit so i trashed it. Trying out the GO BioRoot now, still too new to tell.
Roots Excel with 100% coco
Roots Excel with 100% coco
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csedge
I agree GH's is pretty awesome I've seen Roots Excel ran but never first ran butI'd like to do a side by side GH's makes some fat healthy roots
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cyberwax
I dont actually think it can be compared to piranha/tarantula because those products are microbial. Re is hormon based. Thats why my question about h202 arises, maybe re and h202 can be used together? Dont take my word for it tho.
And the only reason i know this is because i watched this clip ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JJb3JiqYlY&feature=player_embedded ) where big mike actually recommends re over his own product. Not sure what kind of a deal they made to make that happen but my point is if they are microbial or hormonal towards using them together with hydrogen peroixde(h202), and not what product is best, i really have seen some serious shit with re, so im sticking with it.
Also reason why i quoted farmdale above here is that if you compare the dilution rates you'll find re just as expensive as any other rooting compound. Unless you go whosale farm utilities.
I do/did. but Usually in a dead res. Microbials nono. I don't know what did better, h2o2 or RE... in my NFT setups RE has been great. new voodoo at 1/4 strength is pushin some fresh roots after a little pythium/bleach cleanup. Bleach might work as well as h2o2 for pennies. I'm out of h2o2, and you cant really use it with with voodoo but I'm pretty tempted this far in to kill the microherd and sterilize it.
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I do/did. but Usually in a dead res. Microbials nono. I don't know what did better, h2o2 or RE... in my NFT setups RE has been great. new voodoo at 1/4 strength is pushin some fresh roots after a little pythium/bleach cleanup. Bleach might work as well as h2o2 for pennies. I'm out of h2o2, and you cant really use it with with voodoo but I'm pretty tempted this far in to kill the microherd and sterilize it.
what does this mean really? microbials? h202 with re or compared to re? this post is highly confusing. Again; re is hormon based not microbial based.
From talking to the rep of the company that carries RE in the states the only thing that separates RE from any other seaweed extract is its microbial action. Specifically there is supposed to be some kind of beneficial anaerobic bacteria in it, hence the recommendation not to use it with an airstone or other aeration in the reservoir. It will still work then with h202, just not as well as it could. Personally I'm going bleach/dead rez. Cheap as all get out and no more crap to clean out of my rez or filters.
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meaning you use re to combat issues or do you have a shitload of clones?
Curious as to wether it battles root issues aswell.
just bought some GH bio-root the other day. im using it @ 5ml for my seedlings, 15ml for my veg through week 3 of bloom. its not nearly as thick and dark as RE, i think its going to work much better in my blumat rez so thats a +. ive used a little RE in my cloner before and always developed algae rather quickly.
GH now makes thier own version of h&g roots excel......
its called rapid start, its in a steel bottle like the RE and has been working just as well for half the price, application rate is still just 1ml per gal
its called rapid start, its in a steel bottle like the RE and has been working just as well for half the price, application rate is still just 1ml per gal
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house and garden replied to my question about using h202 with re and they said the h202 would kill all the benificial bacteria so there u have it there not compatible....
Grendelkhan
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I have used H&G RE for years and its a dammed fine product. I can't imagine that H&G RE will not be broken down by the other companies and copied as it has been the best roots builder on the market now for a while. I am using the GH Rapid Start right now with this run and have been very happy with the roots that its building. It's to be used at about 1 to 2ml's per gallon according to their reps. So far, so good. I think that any good grower needs to have a good root enhancing product and even though they cost a lot, they do make a huge difference.
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Yea i really love this stuff, but i have found there is a but; it stains my roots and that makes it in turn easy to mistake for something else, wich in turn makes me want to switch to something else when this bottle is done. However let it be known that where all else fails and your plants are wilting, add 1ml of this stuff and they will be up and running in 2-3 hours, it is really holy water, dirty holy water. And lets not forget the root/cloning magic.
Im curious about the DM Gold Zone for the bloom area, anyone tried it? I love that its ammount is applied based upon water temp.
Im curious about the DM Gold Zone for the bloom area, anyone tried it? I love that its ammount is applied based upon water temp.
With all due respect that stuff is way too expensive. How about Dyna KLN?
