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Mountain
I've said this before but Nomaad's Blue Dream rocks. Didn't try his Cough but would love to see some crosses made with it! Maybe this year will work out better for that.
Nomaad III: 2011
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Prophet: After the Jorge Cervantes garden tour you coordinated, the least i could do was stoke you out with a nice jar. I have brought the Pineapple Cough back into the roster because, even though she triggered late in some of the pots, i don't want to go the whole year without this to smoke. I have noticed that she enhances hilarity... something you can't have enough of in life. I thank you for the glowing review. We are focused on quality as always and appreciate hearing it when that shines thru.
Mountain: I am not going to run the Cough outside again this year but the clone is still around and it very well may find its way into a breeding project in the near future. Its flavor comes thru in the Pineapple Cough and its mold resistance, vigor and yield are all as good as i have ever seen them. They take 3 weeks of rain between mass-harvest and thanksgiving with a moldy bud ratio of around 1:600. That is some old school hybrid vigor. Did you get the chance to try the Pineapple Cough? It has cured, as hoped, to a heavenly quality. I just put away the last few nugs of the best of it and will be happy to break it out next time you make your way through. I'll get back to you on the Seacrop questionaire when I have a minute.
Dome is going up today. Its about to get photogenic.
Mountain: I am not going to run the Cough outside again this year but the clone is still around and it very well may find its way into a breeding project in the near future. Its flavor comes thru in the Pineapple Cough and its mold resistance, vigor and yield are all as good as i have ever seen them. They take 3 weeks of rain between mass-harvest and thanksgiving with a moldy bud ratio of around 1:600. That is some old school hybrid vigor. Did you get the chance to try the Pineapple Cough? It has cured, as hoped, to a heavenly quality. I just put away the last few nugs of the best of it and will be happy to break it out next time you make your way through. I'll get back to you on the Seacrop questionaire when I have a minute.
Dome is going up today. Its about to get photogenic.
Sorry bout that, been off the net the past couple of days and I have a bunch of posts bookmarked through the "Filter Username Posts" function and forget when I link them they just go to the entire thread. If you use the "filter post link" on Tom's username it is on the second page, half way down where he talks about his meters.
Dome Day.
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Mountain
Nomaad - close is good enough for the info I was looking for. I just need a general ballpark approximated guesstimate.
Got another very cool product for you to try. 100% organic, can run through drip systems, low application rates, not nutritive really, helps catalyze things, complexes nutrients, supports fungal growth, blah blah. No one I know is using this stuff. If you're using humic acid this will replace it and works far better...super cheap too! I'll have it in a week and need to take a trip south anyway soon.
Got another very cool product for you to try. 100% organic, can run through drip systems, low application rates, not nutritive really, helps catalyze things, complexes nutrients, supports fungal growth, blah blah. No one I know is using this stuff. If you're using humic acid this will replace it and works far better...super cheap too! I'll have it in a week and need to take a trip south anyway soon.
sierrahippy
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Mountain: the first watering was a gallon or two around the start. I don't have the data to tell you much about the speed at which we ramped up, but toward the end, they were getting almost 20 gallons per drench.
sierra: Neighbors called code enforcement last year and we took it down... it was well timed so that we really didn't give a toss. Hope we can avoid the same official visit this year... it was pretty obnoxious of me to allow it to light up the neighborhood while supplementing light in the evening. This year, we will cover 100% of the time when supplemental lighting is on.
sierra: Neighbors called code enforcement last year and we took it down... it was well timed so that we really didn't give a toss. Hope we can avoid the same official visit this year... it was pretty obnoxious of me to allow it to light up the neighborhood while supplementing light in the evening. This year, we will cover 100% of the time when supplemental lighting is on.
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Mountain
I'll get you a sane program to work with. It is one of those things you can overdo but still that would be difficult.
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Mountain
Soil
1. 1% SC dilution at transplant into the Smart Pots. If you're only basically watering the rootball and surrounding area that concentration would be primo and this application is the most important. Whatever you're using to water the starts at transplant SC should be 1% of that mix. This dilution is calculated with you using 2 gallons of solution per start. If you use 4 gallons per start dilute to .5%. It's advisable to also use some type of humic product in your starter solution at transplant and also any time you fertigate.
2. 2 tsp of SC per 2 gal of solution per 200 gallon pot 2 weeks after transplant guesstimating you use about 2 gallons of solution.
3. 2 tsp of SC per 20 gal of solution per 200 gallon pot at the start of the 'stretch' into flower.
Foliar
1. Starting with the first foliar application a .1% SC dilution once per week until you stop foliar applications. If you end up only doing bi-weekly treatments go with a .25% SC dilution. For foliar the absolution maximum would be a 1% dilution applied weekly. In open agriculture those guys use 1 pint of SC per acre per week as a foliar...potent stuff!
If you haven't started the foliar applications 2 weeks after transplant you should do 1 foliar SC treatment at that time.
That's a very safe program. You could probably double those recommended concentrations but maybe next year after you see how things go. I tried to break it down into a weekly regimen for soil applications for your setup and a bit tough.
You gotta understand this stuff has for the most part been used in open agriculture and I had to try and convert per acre usage to containers like you use. When you research you find the yearly application rate is typically 4 gallons per acre for annuals and 6 gallons per acre for perennials. At 10 gallons per acre the results plateau and at 50 gallons per acre you start having problems.
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1. 1% SC dilution at transplant into the Smart Pots. If you're only basically watering the rootball and surrounding area that concentration would be primo and this application is the most important. Whatever you're using to water the starts at transplant SC should be 1% of that mix. This dilution is calculated with you using 2 gallons of solution per start. If you use 4 gallons per start dilute to .5%. It's advisable to also use some type of humic product in your starter solution at transplant and also any time you fertigate.
2. 2 tsp of SC per 2 gal of solution per 200 gallon pot 2 weeks after transplant guesstimating you use about 2 gallons of solution.
3. 2 tsp of SC per 20 gal of solution per 200 gallon pot at the start of the 'stretch' into flower.
Foliar
1. Starting with the first foliar application a .1% SC dilution once per week until you stop foliar applications. If you end up only doing bi-weekly treatments go with a .25% SC dilution. For foliar the absolution maximum would be a 1% dilution applied weekly. In open agriculture those guys use 1 pint of SC per acre per week as a foliar...potent stuff!
If you haven't started the foliar applications 2 weeks after transplant you should do 1 foliar SC treatment at that time.
That's a very safe program. You could probably double those recommended concentrations but maybe next year after you see how things go. I tried to break it down into a weekly regimen for soil applications for your setup and a bit tough.
You gotta understand this stuff has for the most part been used in open agriculture and I had to try and convert per acre usage to containers like you use. When you research you find the yearly application rate is typically 4 gallons per acre for annuals and 6 gallons per acre for perennials. At 10 gallons per acre the results plateau and at 50 gallons per acre you start having problems.
EDIT - modified program
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Cannacreep
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Subscribed. Love the thread Nomaad. Can't wait to see what you got coming up! I guess now is a good time for me to finish up your last years monster thread! Thanks for all your hard work and diligence in reporting it all to us here at ICM.
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Mountain
That other product I mentioned won't provide much benefit for organic situations but would really help if you don't have things like a lot of compost or maybe even worm castings in your mix and are running a more soilless type scenario outdoors. If your mix is rich in organic material then kind of redundant but would still help. This stuff might help bind up sodium but don't think that's necessary in your situation cause from what I know you're not growing on a compost pile that's going off like Tom is. Seems he's a big fan of manzanita compost.
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Trinity Gold
Curious how much progress you're making. Let us know.
All the full season plants will be in 10 gallon smarties in the sun with supplemental lighting by the end of the weekend. The biggest of them is now about 18-20" tall. They will have a month in 10 gallon pots in the sun... I am expecting 4-5 foot plants just ready for transplant from their 10s on June 1st. The dep plants are mostly in 2's and 5's though some are still in 3.5" duras.
Pots are still solarizing. Cleaned the Dosers and drenched with Hygrozyme today and will probably amend in two weeks. The soil thermometer got here today, so we'll be seeing how high the soil temps get but i am not sure we'll get to the 140 degrees needed for sterilized soil. Would have been good to have them covered in Jan-Feb when we had 2 months of sun.
The garden is pretty dialed in. The systems are all in place. The crew is crackerjack. We're gonna push the quality envelope all the way this year for sure.
Pots are still solarizing. Cleaned the Dosers and drenched with Hygrozyme today and will probably amend in two weeks. The soil thermometer got here today, so we'll be seeing how high the soil temps get but i am not sure we'll get to the 140 degrees needed for sterilized soil. Would have been good to have them covered in Jan-Feb when we had 2 months of sun.
The garden is pretty dialed in. The systems are all in place. The crew is crackerjack. We're gonna push the quality envelope all the way this year for sure.
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Trinity Gold
Sounds good.
By the way... been smoking off a jar of OD Bomb Threat I was given last week. The most I have ever had before has been a small nug. It stands up for sure. I am blazed proper. Can hardly see straight. Back pain from swinging the chainsaw is forgotten. Sad to see the end of the jar.
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Eatatjoes
How big (height and width) do you think they will be at end of season?
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Trinity Gold
Bomb Threat is pretty good. I've been smoking pretty much nothing but since August and I still get ripped every time and it tastes great with that lemon lime kush twang... I got a new whack of seeds from God so lets pray for new, better winners that surpass our hopes and expectations. I'll send some samples your way later this summer and you can tell me what you think of the new stuff. Besides the Bomb Threat what have you been puffing on this winter? Did you have any 300s last year? If you did and you watered them with the same drip emitter tape how many ft per plant did you have?
I was given a jar of outdoor TK along with the Bomb Threat. Other than that I have been mostly puffing my own bounty. The Blue Dream, of course, is a standard. The Pineapple Cough when i want to laugh a lot. But Mostly, i reserved a couple of jars of my own OG, but a couple of nitwits who worked for me last year mixed all my OG with Ogre, and about 3 weeks ago, I realized that there was no more actual OG nug in the jars. When the TK and BT are gone tomorrow or the next day, I will be on the hunt. Maybe some nice indoor OG will come my way. I looked at some pre-98, but it just wasn't up to snuff. I look forward to seeing the new genetics you come up with from your seed projects.
I did do a couple of 300's last year and they have 35-37 feet of 1gph/12" spacing drip emitted tubing from dripworks (as opposed to 25 on the 200's). We flushed the system at the end of last year and after testing them yesterday, it seems that there is not one single fully clogged emitter in the entire garden. Its not flat tube like that t-tape shite. Its fully round tubing with extruded emitters. Great product.
I did do a couple of 300's last year and they have 35-37 feet of 1gph/12" spacing drip emitted tubing from dripworks (as opposed to 25 on the 200's). We flushed the system at the end of last year and after testing them yesterday, it seems that there is not one single fully clogged emitter in the entire garden. Its not flat tube like that t-tape shite. Its fully round tubing with extruded emitters. Great product.
Ive got all kinds of Hazes and Sativas over here to smoke, but I ran out of my Headband last week. Im still a month from harvest on LA and Headband Indo.
Luckily, my son just harvested a bunch of Headband and Chemdog91. I invited him over to dinner tonight. LOL!
Luckily, my son just harvested a bunch of Headband and Chemdog91. I invited him over to dinner tonight. LOL!
