Potency Vs. The Ceiling

[SuperConductor]

I dont think it makes a bit of difference whether its sativa or indica. If you smoke it a lot and often, your going to build up a tolerance and the buzz is going to be limited. I trade an old buddy for some of his mango haze pheno and its Jack herrer quality smoke, but a couple weeks in of toking it all day every day and it might as well be indiana hemp. Its time to switch back to the star.

heavy users build up a tolerance and it doesnt matter what theyre smoking. Years ago we got bricks of hash that was stelllar, but 3 weeks in and you could barely get high on it if you didnt take a break for a few days. Tolerance.

Makes a big difference man. The strain is important too though, jack herrer is good smoke but very heavily indica influenced, same with SSH. I smoke about the same as you and a year or two ago had a superb sativa that I smoked and vaped heavily every day for 9 months solid with negligable tolerance build up, got the same beautiful feeling from every joint I smoked. After almost a year I got tired of it but was still getting really really high. Not as high as the first couple of months granted but still a beautiful high. These days I'm back on indicas and the tolerance problem is an issueeven though I smoke less now. I reckon the only solution is to double my grow space and grow both

Everyone will ask so i'll tell here: it was a home made cross - KC Brain's Braindamage (sativa pheno) crossed to ACE seeds NepJam (nep pheno). Old school horny fun party weed very different from any of todays haze etc. Enjoy.

 

[FIREofKALI]

I dont think it makes a bit of difference whether its sativa or indica. If you smoke it a lot and often, your going to build up a tolerance and the buzz is going to be limited.

straight bullshit try to grow pure sativas... BUT! grow it properly...

sensi star hehe its just commercial weed and nothing more... just commercial weed... i can grow it with one hand in my ass, and it will be still grown well, theres nothing special about sensi star, just easy to grow strong weed, with terrible tolerance build-up...it just makes you dumb.. like your post i quote...

im heavy smoker too, even best indicas like blockhead or black domina has terrible ceiling even after few days of smokin it... but i smoke original haze for months and i have to meet that ceiling youre talkin about, even fifth joint of the day and im high as a kite again... no ceiling...

muahahaha

 

[oldbootz]

i live in south africa and started smoking in the 90s. i tried all the african bud that was around. granted my tolerance was not built up that much at those times but some of the highs that i was able to get time after time from the same dealer with the same weed was incredible. i speak about this one particular weed today and i say to people that it might have been dipped in benzine or something because seriously i have never been that high like that ever again and i have smoked lots of haze and original africans since then. but this stuff i was getting for about a year i and i smoked it every day. it tasted harsh and i would bong it in a home made coke bottle bong. about 10 mins after smoking i would be feeling nice and stoned with a good body high and a swirling mind. then about 20 mins after i would start tripping balls, my mind would be everywhere - thoughts rushing about uncontrollably - then starts the colors - my whole vision would tear into new colors from the top left to the bottom right almost like it was washed into the new color with a hose pipe. the colors were blends of purples oranges reds etc. no blue or green.

sooo high...

 

[alaskind]

wiseone- what a thread!....thanks for the heads up...

Alien-wow it sounds like youve got a gem on your hands....Please keep a line of that nepali as pure as you can, even if you use those wonderfull males to cross with....maybe even let dubi of Ace seeds know about em....they are proactive in preserving landrace genetics...

FIRE of KALI- welcome... Id love to be holding some o that haze!

 

[wiseone]

That thread rocks and so does Kanga. I've read on many sites from those that have had the honor to smoke his weed that his MM is supposed to be on par or better than the O.Haze that folks smoked back in the day.
(ps: He's a regular where I told ya to go. )

 

[alaskind]

Thanks again, wiseone.... MM sounds like the holy grail....

 

[FIREofKALI]

hi alaskind

thx for welcome... its all about phenotyp that suits you... i would recommend you bangi haze, pheno with narrowed leaf was P nd C nd L(long lasting), also tom´s haze lemon pheno cloudy funk to the head is PCL .... effect or better to say experience is different, but both are PCL... also kalimist i smoked is same league, precious herb... hazeskunk too..

i also can reccomend you destroyer from CBG.. almost no ceiling and im sure ACE crosses with thai are bombs but i dont know from my experience...

to MM, theres la nina, cross of MM and white widow, i heard it hehe... its on my list... from Mr. Nice seeds... im pretty sure that sativa pheno of this cross is PCL and much more...

 

[alaskind]

Alien- Im glad to hear that you are preserving the Nepali... Its cool that this community is more aware of the importance of saving the non hybrids, its changed a lot in the last 10 years.... Please keep us posted on the crosses that are made....

 

[Booyah!]

Nepalese genetics sound really nice. I think it was the purple nepal (half Nepalese genetics) that started a lot of the purple craze in Norcal, but the nepal you describe sounds like a blockbuster. I just love pure lines...how's the hash come out?

Some landraces I hear have cielingless highs..thai and other se asian like vietnamese, malawi, zamal, acapulco gold, punto rojo, columbian black and PNG

 

[alaskind]

hi alaskind

thx for welcome... its all about phenotyp that suits you... i would recommend you bangi haze, pheno with narrowed leaf was P nd C nd L(long lasting), also tom´s haze lemon pheno cloudy funk to the head is PCL .... effect or better to say experience is different, but both are PCL... also kalimist i smoked is same league, precious herb... hazeskunk too..

i also can reccomend you destroyer from CBG.. almost no ceiling and im sure ACE crosses with thai are bombs but i dont know from my experience...

to MM, theres la nina, cross of MM and white widow, i heard it hehe... its on my list... from Mr. Nice seeds... im pretty sure that sativa pheno of this cross is PCL and much more...

FIRE of KALI - Im a big fan of CannaBioGen heres a smoke report I did on it back in '03 on OG.....

...sorry for the thumbnail, I dont know how to post full size pics....

 

[D.S. Toker. MD]

straight bullshit try to grow pure sativas... BUT! grow it properly...

sensi star hehe its just commercial weed and nothing more... just commercial weed...
im heavy smoker too, ... but i smoke original haze for months and i have to meet that ceiling youre talkin about, even fifth joint of the day and im high as a kite again... no ceiling...

muahahaha

Youve proven youve never grown SS because anyone that has wouldnt have made such a foolish statement. There are an awful lot of grow reports and grower opinions that disagree with you. Find any thread on this site asking about the most potent weed and in every thread you will find SS recommended repeatedly. Sunnyside has a good grow report here, read it..

You could make the finest quality hash available from your haze and 3 weeks into burning it, 3 or 4 big bowls might make me dizzy and give a little buzz, but if i want to get high on it again, ill have to take a break and smoke something else.

 

[FIREofKALI]

hi alaskind bro... very nice report, i still miss that og strainguide... so was it without ceiling? i smoked it few times not day by day... but it was like your smoke report bro.. i wanted to write something yet but i forget it now like the world is new again... i, hiiiigh on that haze again lol im sure in cross, this haze would be even more potent!

hey ds tokemd bro i was never worried about not to be fool yes im fool nd im happy with it but youre kind of that too cause what is proven to you... is proven just in your mind... i grew two seasons sensi star outdoors and i smoke multiple indoor samples brother, thats true... i dont say its bad or non quality herb, also too leafy bud for me, but good for hash, i dont say its not potent, but what i say it has terrible ceiling, like you say 3 weeks of instant smokin and you got bad tolerance, i agree with you do you see it? but i dont agree with you on this subject... haze... that resin would have some potency man! it can make you foolish as hell hehe but maybe you dont like fools... maybe you want to be normal - whatever it is - and just stoned i dont know... i heard about one guy.. hes called Sam... man! he just had access to mayn heirlooms strains we both even dont know by name, he is smokin haze resin, maybe right now! hehe... why would he smoke it if its doing nothing to human body and soul even after 3 weeks of smoken it? lol just smoke ss but dont say you got same tolerance with sativas.. all right?

cheers

 

[alaskind]

FIRE-...Destroyer is on my top 3... not only for potency, but for the quality of high...very positive, intense...high ceiling, high tolerance. I was smoking a lot back then....

The strain that has been the closest to ceilingless for me so far is G13(Pacific cut)XHeitage Blueberry Sativa by reeferman.... hehe maybe Id have to say that it had a bottomless basement though....would stop a charging rhino! I gave some to an older grower in mendo, one evening, and he called me at about 11:30 the next morning asking me "wtf...Ive been back to sleep twice this morning and I havent even finished this cone!"....Bear in mind that this guy was a constant smoker....(btw, thats the girl in my avitar)....

...This is her indoor...

...and outdoor....

 

[alaskind]

Wow, I wonder what happened to Alien Genetics...looks like hes gone......

 

[yoss33]

I dont think it makes a bit of difference whether its sativa or indica. If you smoke it a lot and often, your going to build up a tolerance and the buzz is going to be limited. I trade an old buddy for some of his mango haze pheno and its Jack herrer quality smoke, but a couple weeks in of toking it all day every day and it might as well be indiana hemp. Its time to switch back to the star.

heavy users build up a tolerance and it doesnt matter what theyre smoking. Years ago we got bricks of hash that was stelllar, but 3 weeks in and you could barely get high on it if you didnt take a break for a few days. Tolerance.

Really try a well-cured more pure sativa than a 50% haze hybrid. You'll change your mind

 

[yoss33]

You could make the finest quality hash available from your haze and 3 weeks into burning it, 3 or 4 big bowls might make me dizzy and give a little buzz, but if i want to get high on it again, ill have to take a break and smoke something else.

Try it before talking
Obviously, you've never smoked a pure Haze. Not 3 weeks but 3 years into it you'll be smoking the same amount and get just as high, which is VERY high.
Of course, you shouldn't mix it with Sensi Star if you want to stay away from the mediocre 4-bong-hits stone

 

[oldbootz]

hehe you guys sound like you need to sit down and share a spliff of each others finest

When i was younger the only weed to buy was low grade street quality land race sativa and occasionally some really kick ass sativa landrace stuff. you build a tolerance to anything if you smoke enough, but some strains have a higher cieling for sure. i can still today get a nice high every day but im smoking various strains all the time. right now its ak47, cheese, and g13. you also have to not be in a blind rush in your life to actually feel the effects properly. sit/lie down, relax, even daydream a little.

 

[alaskind]

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Id agree that some unhurried time is an excellent component of evaluating a high....

 

[organicsquirrel]

It's funny how people are surprised that they got higher as kids before they grew pounds of weed and smoked all day for several years.

I remember getting extremely high from commercial time and time again when younger, but alas no more.

 

[alaskind]

organicsquirrel- Hello, Im aware that a lot of people here dont share the same experiences with different highs..... so many variables. I also used to just chalk it up to people remembering the way it felt before the tolerance factor reared its head.... Ive personally never had the bell ringing , paralizing effects that some describe. But I also trust that I havent smoked it all,and Im open to the idea of herb that is different than Ive had. I also have some faith in the people here, that its not all just a pissing match. Id love to try some of the haze's that have a rep for ALWAYS taking you as high as you want to be. I dont know about you, but I learn a lot more with an open mind...