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smart meters cause health problems

ronbo51

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IRONICALLY-NAMED ‘SMART METERS’ PROVE TO BE A DUMB IDEA
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:37pm by Mike Opelka Print »Email »

Headaches, insomnia, tinnitus, DNA breakdown. . . These are just a few of the myriad problems mentioned when people talk about the constant bombardment of EMFs or electromagnetic frequencies, a huge by-product of the new Smart Meters being installed by public utilities around the country.



But wait! We have been told that the Smart Grid, with it’s Smart Meters would be a good thing for all of us. Now we find out that this scheme poses very real dangers to human health?

Information on the effect of installing millions of Smart Meters, all equipped with wireless transmitters that are constantly filling the environment with EMFs, is just starting to trickle in. An electrical engineer named Rob States has been looking into this problem:

“Since individuals with no history of RF disease are experiencing symptoms the first day the meter is installed, we can assume the meter’s RF emissions are not the only problem. The RF network is activated months after initial meter installation. Extensive measurements have demonstrated that all of the meters measured so far, including ABB, GE, and Landis Gyr, emit noise on the customer’s electric wiring in the form of high frequency voltage spikes, typically with an amplitude of 2 volts, but a frequency any ware from 4,000 Hertz, up to 60,000 Hz. The actual frequency of the phenomena is influenced by the devices that are plugged into the customer’s power. Some houses are much worse than others, and this observation has been confirmed by PG&E installers that have talked to us.”

Rob’s comments come from an online article posted by Stop Smart Meters.

Thanks to the work of people like Stop Smart Meters, communities are waking up to the problem. Especially in California.

Generally speaking, people in California seem to accept new government programs with open arms, especially anything with the words ‘green’ or ‘smart’ attached to it. So Smart Meters seemed to be a no-brainer as they promised to make the planet greener and who doesn’t want a smart electrical meter?

You should know that the so-called Smart Meters are the typical energy monitoring devices with a little extra bonus added. It is a wireless transmitter (think cell phone) that is constantly sending the power company updates on your electrical use. The meters are now bombarding the environment with EMFs, all day, every day. That electronic carpet-bombing of your home, apartment complex, subdivision is being blamed for health problems in people who are ‘electrically hypersensitive.’ (a real term)



The argument that Smart Meters will lower energy consumption has also been debunked. Reuters published a piece showing no real long-term savings in homes with Smart Meters vs the old meters.

“Participants who kept the monitor (…) did not manage to sustain their electricity savings any better than those without a monitor.”
“A second finding is that certain groups of people seem more receptive to energy-saving interventions than others. A ‘one-size-fits-all’ approach for home energy monitors cannot be justified.”
No real savings, potential health problems. . . so why the rush to install these so called Smart Meters in 200 million homes?

Some skeptics claim the new meters will allow government access to more information and control over individuals. From our new friends at StopSmartMeters.org:

Do you value civil liberties and the right to privacy? When a ‘smart’ meter is installed, your utility has access to a treasure trove of information about you- when you wake up in the morning, when you go on vacation, what kinds of appliances you are using, etc. They will be able to sell this information to a series of corporations and the government.
YES, the words ‘Big Brother’ definitely come to mind here.

Oddly enough, California may be leading the charge against Smart Meters. There are almost 30 local governments formally opposing the installation of the Smart Meters. Two weeks ago the tide started turning:



The anti-Smart Meter people actually scored a victory of sorts against this governmental invasion as news broke yesterday that PG&E offered an ‘opt-out’ program, but it is going to cost you. Early estimates say that choosing the old meter will cost an additional $14-$20 per month, plus a ‘set-up’ fee.

Let’s review what we know about Smart Meters:

European studies have shown no significant energy savings.
Great potential exists for serious and wide-spread health problems caused by constant bombardment of EMFs.
Loss of personal freedom to consume energy as you see fit is inherent in this kind of metering.
Government now has access to even more information about how you live, with the potential to interfere in your life via control of power.
And, if you choose NOT to have a Smart Meter, you will pay a ‘tax’ for the right to retain your privacy and freedom of choice.
Any questions?
 

supermanlives

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in san diego you dont have a choice. i was told its not an option its manditory. my meter is out back outside of a room i dont sleep in. havent had any problems yet
 

Maj.Cottonmouth

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This reminds me of the people in England who were complaining of health effects from the cell phone tower in their back yards. Many people had a wide range of issues from it, Then it was shown that the cell tower had not been in use for over a year. Sometimes it is all in our heads.
 

Ursus

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in san diego you dont have a choice. i was told its not an option its manditory. my meter is out back outside of a room i dont sleep in. havent had any problems yet

dude I'm all the way in FL and I got one of these smart meters right outside my window. I was reading the shitty brochure thing that came with it. I have a ton of electronics in my room I hope I don't die.
 
Yeah they tried to put a smart meter on my house a few weeks ago. Luckily I talked to the guy before he got to my house. I told him my concerns of the un shielded RF. He said no problem and skipped my house. But he did say that they would more than likely be back to try and re-install it? I hope not. The health concern's and lack of privacy is what I don't like. Also the fact that they come to your house and try and sneak and install the shit with out your permission is BS. If their "Smart Meter" is so great why come to my house w/ out my permission and try and sneak it on? They do this so it's too late for most people. By the time you find out it's already installed.
 

David762

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FWIW, some localities in CA will force you to use their "smart meters". Opting out will cost the consumer an extra 10%+ per month. At least that is the case with SMUD (Sacramento Municipal Utilities Department), I found out.

[Yes! I'm actually not "homeless" in NorCal any more ... :) It took freaking long enough!]

:tiphat:
 

Maj.Cottonmouth

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FWIW, some localities in CA will force you to use their "smart meters". Opting out will cost the consumer an extra 10%+ per month. At least that is the case with SMUD (Sacramento Municipal Utilities Department), I found out.

[Yes! I'm actually not "homeless" in NorCal any more ... :) It took freaking long enough!]

:tiphat:

Congratulations man!!!
 

Deft

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I saw a nova science now program on the PBS site that talked about how they want the meters to shut off your appliances via remote command from the power company... Fucked up. I wonder if covering it with a lead blanket would block the signal, and if they can ask you to remove it.

I don't believe the health BS with EMFs, some of the biggest exposure you get is in the car due to the alternator, and its non ionizing.
 
I saw a nova science now program on the PBS site that talked about how they want the meters to shut off your appliances via remote command from the power company... Fucked up. I wonder if covering it with a lead blanket would block the signal, and if they can ask you to remove it.

I don't believe the health BS with EMFs, some of the biggest exposure you get is in the car due to the alternator, and its non ionizing.

I have an acquaintance who works in a power utilities company. He confirmed something similar a few months back. Ultimately they might even know what big appliances (energy suckers) we are using. Big Bro is watching!
 

exploziv

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that's exacly what i wanted to say about that program. they also said that they are running now in rome (or maybe whole italy, can't remember now), with great results.
 

David762

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Thanks, Major. :)

Thanks, Major. :)

Congratulations man!!!

Thanks, Major. :)

Now I need to vehicles registered here, get a CA driver's license, and register to vote. :dance013:

And if I am fortunate enough to still be "alive & kicking" a year from that point, qualifying for in-state tuition rates for CA's still quite good university system. :)

Becoming Prop 215 & SB 420 compliant is another issue entirely ... :cannabis:

:tiphat:
 

geopolitical

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Headaches, insomnia, tinnitus, DNA breakdown

So I agree that as I've seen them used smart meters don't do a ton for the average consumer (large businesses might save using off hour rates for things like pumping heat in off hours to keep the building cool during the day). However the second you start spewing horseshit like "DNA breakdown" you lose that whole "rational" chunk of people that are objecting to the meters on the grounds of privacy, cost, inefficiency, etc.

If you're really concerned about EMF then build a faraday cage and live in it for the rest of your life, because it's the only way you'll avoid it. I'm pretty sure most Electromagnetic radiation causes adaptive changes in the human body of some sort, be it UV, Gamma, visible light (OH MY GOD LIGHT!), radio or infrared. My eyes actually CHANGE SHAPE with exposure to radiation between 400 & 780nm, it's pretty nasty stuff. Radiation below 400nm may cause CANCER upon exposure & recovery!

I mean isn't this a little silly?
 

Ca$h

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This reminds me of the people in England who were complaining of health effects from the cell phone tower in their back yards. Many people had a wide range of issues from it, Then it was shown that the cell tower had not been in use for over a year. Sometimes it is all in our heads.

Well it's all invisable energy that's potentially harmful so keeping the thought out of your head might not save you...

but let us know
 

Ca$h

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I saw a nova science now program on the PBS site that talked about how they want the meters to shut off your appliances via remote command from the power company... Fucked up. I wonder if covering it with a lead blanket would block the signal, and if they can ask you to remove it.

I don't believe the health BS with EMFs, some of the biggest exposure you get is in the car due to the alternator, and its non ionizing.


I thought electro magnetics easily go though lead, but I could be wrong.
 

Strainhunter

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We don't have smart meters. :moon:

We don't even have a electricity company. :dance013:

Just a 250KW generator and a few smaller private ones.

And some have solar power.


:wave:
 

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