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Bumble Bramble Rumble Ramble

Bumble Bramble Rumble Ramble

Back to plotting. This morning in the wee A.M. I pollinated a beastie Ma Kettle (Casey Jones X Grape Krush) with dust from I-HOP Grape Krush (Straw Dog F2 X Grape Krush) and will be pollinating another phenotype tomorrow morning. So then.....

Manzana Bramble= Ma Kettle X I-HOP Grape Krush

this is the Ma plant that I hit...day 21...should be a replica of the mom in many ways....I had to bend and bind her top to keep her under the lights...she grows aggressively.



She should look much like this 42 day old sister...very Casey like in nature....big...stinky...sticky...aggressive...all girl. Partially pollinated to make the next generation.



Federation's Mikado at day 38....about to start hitting the powder Phosphorus (Kool Bloom).....this plant is gnarly as hell...kind of confounding me. She seems Hazy at Xs....very sativa anyway. I have no idea what I have here....just riding her out. I really like her...making some seeds from the I-HOP GK dust...all systems are a Go....I'm going to blast the shit out of her the next couple weeks.

Mikado is a version of SWT???? I have to wonder.....exactly what Federation versed different. Whatever...I'm all for it...jamming ass plant. I'm still vegging her not-at-all-like-her sister. Interesting. Why I love beans....you never know



I-HOP Highend...little hat full of manicured flowers...some frostbite on the flower tips...should be some nice smoke...and she made me some beans for the next generation. Nice stuff



Inside the goldmine.....around sundown...ChemDD, Crunge, I-HOP Grape Krush, Ma Kettle etc etc....

 
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Hey Pablos, I've been screwing around in my veg room spraying down some seedlings and cuts with Eagle 20 as a preventative for PM, anyway I have about 15 chemdd X nevilles going and most of them are very floppy with stretchy, long internodal profiles.They're growing well no doubt but they seem to have taken the floppy nature of the chemdd as opposed to the stout, rigid, stocky seedlings of the Nevilles.So I'm wondering how these will turn out and I knew you have used your chemdd quite a bit in making crosses, like some of those pictured above.What has been the most dominant quality that the chemdd has passed on to its offspring based on your own experience?I just couldn't help but try these first out of all my seeds simply due to the freaky nature of both parents, most particularly the chemdd.Here's a pic of 2 seedlings about 3 weeks old, one is more stout but the other as you can see is very lanky and floppy.I'm sure there will be excellent plants but I wanted to check in with your experience regarding the chemdd and what kind of parent it is.Thanks and keep on running, that stuff will clear your head and flush your body, my old man and I used to do 15 mile runs when he needed to sober up, even drunk he'd whoop my ass!!:)
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CHACO....Here's what I find in ChemDD outcrosses....not engraved in stone...but off the top of my head:

1. When used from either the male or female side....DD can be easily dominated by the other line...especially if it is an IBL. That goes with most anything else....IBLs like to dominate...I crossed DD to male Mental Floss...never saw the DD at all and the plants sucked (not that MF sucks...some crosses just don't go...I don't make many of those mistakes anymore)

2. I like to match DD up with other similar structured lines...that seems to work well. She went good with my Cindy Jones for example..or with stuff that is already based on the Chem D (clone, BCs, or IBL though I haven't tried that in the mix)

I love so much about the DD....I don't like to get too crazy and stray far. I mean I'm just looking to sweeten her up at Xs or whatever berry her up....but honestly I love the skunk funk of straight DD so much...why stray? If I can add apples or peaches or mangos,,,,,that's about all I can think to do. The high is great as is...I'm just happy with it....but I never smoke the same stuff for long. Still that 1st hit of DD can orbit my head consistently.

I'm still working on a Bubblegum Chem....far from original but the project keeps going here and there....I need a better BG...I've never found it the way I vision.

I have found DD in just about every cross I used it in.....you know the habits and you know aroma as soon as they show.

Your crosses sound so good C.....no way you won't find something stellar. You are a crazy bastard with going the Haze distances so often....I have much respect for your grows and efforts....finer fruit is hard to find. Your peeps must piss themselves.

****How about the Chem Sissy x Haze X Chem DD X Haze? That's when I think it will really get interesting....beyond the F1 "intros"....you'd have it all dude...select until you can't see. I was dreaming up crosses like that when I was seeing what you were doing.
 
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Hands are bruised from breaking rocks all day...

Hands are bruised from breaking rocks all day...

.....another Alice member dead. Grind the Godsmack...sucks to be sad

Sometimes.....fuck....I pollinate early cause I don't want so many beans. I'd rather go Bumble Bee early and let the subject spend her energy preparing less beans and more flowers....get nice well made seeds...fully mature and willing. Adding value to their stock. I'm but a simple lad....simple #s and simple needs. Doesn't mean I'm cheap.

case in point...the making of Manzana Bramble...I showed a young Ma Kettle donor mom yesterday...today I show the other donor at day 22 before she was pollinated...two females used for the Bramble...less beans per plant but combined I'll have more expressions. I don't need 300 beans of this cross to produce a "Shiner"...they will come running in to me quick and easy...rabbit showed me so.

On the left


She is beside a 43 day old I-HOP Grape Krush...let me show some closer ups of that specimen...holy shit...a lovely thingy...outcrossed to ChemDDIX1...(damn right...that cross will drive me home like a nail) is it CBF's SCreme (my vote) showing or is it that Chem D clone(no Chem smell though..maybe structure)?...not thinking Grape Krush though. I have more and more of these I-HOPs lined up and whoring up my studios....not one 1/2 ass ugly amongst them. I tell no lies.



This is all for not??? I don't know...but I'm blending these two lines together....they are already related via the Grape Krush....and they are both animalistic queen bitch flowers. Some girls are made for the runway...though for different reasons.

Manzana Bramble= Ma Kettle X I-HOP Grape Krush

Ma Kettle= Casey Jones X Grape Krush

I-HOP Grape Krush= Straw Dog f2 X Grape Krush
 
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Nice Pablos, that's just the type of talk I needed.I tossed my chemdd cut awhile back after I made this cross and now after reading through your experience I think I'll use a couple of the males and hit either the chem D or the Sister.I just rec'd the D about 6 weeks ago and the cuts from the whole plant I was passed are now rooted up and growing like crazy.If the D and the Sister are sisters, would it matter much which one I used to hit back with the Nevs/chemdd pollen?? I'm not sure if the D and the Sister are sisters, anyway I could hit both!!!:)Thanks again dude.
 
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i set out to shorten flower time on the DD a couple years ago. i used my own special male, a real poly poly hybrid containing g13haze. the DD smell pierced through hard with an oniony bubblegum twist. she was a smashing success and a real darling of her local following.

pablos i gave this exotic girl a celebrity name and i think that added to her glimmer. she was "fat britney" or britney or brit. spears with girth! alas i canceled that program because i found the DD structure and swell much more appealing and worth the extra days in flower.

stay fresh homies
 
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.....right on guys.

So many crosses have been made with the Chem lines...I'm just glad that there are lots of choices and directions to go. Hell they could have hoarded the line and made it even more desirable.

As far as a berry influenced Chemmy plant I went with CBF's Straw Dog after reading his threads on his Strawberry work...and then I figured to add in some Blue line stuff....that's how the I-HOPs came to be. I am hoping to find something in some of my Bubblegum based crosses and blend them into the I-HOP.....just winging it....I could really care less as long as Shiners keep coming my way. I will continue to document my path to keep it straight....somewhat accurate.

I definitely understand: if you find a competent breeder working a line in the same direction as you want to go....use their work to save you time and skip over yrs of work. No one gets here by themselves.

I don't see any problems with blending the different Chems from multiple directions. I keep searching for the Chem recombination that unlocks the gate to an out of bounds trail. I'm looking for anything different....but Chem line platformed.



My next germination session....later this month....will be more of CBF's work. This time in OG Kush....SFV and Ghost work. I don't care if OG is trendy here where I live...I don't care about the drama surrounding OG and its origins. I care about OG Kush because....in a blind test....it would be one of my selections for my Top Shelf. I love the stuff.....and I think I'll spend most my year working it into my own concepts. All bullshit aside....OG Kush is good stuff.

CHACO....you been hanging out with lesbian bikers again?
 
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unclefishstick

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yeah,i really like bubbah kush,but despise purple kush,not sure if i have had an og kush,its become such a generic term at this point,like hearing people call everything "dro",anything with the word kush attached to it rarely garners any notice from me...im digging my sativas too much right now....
are you getting closer P? i mean i have noted that i am seeing the commonalities between your crosses now,i think i am actually wrapping my head around whats going on here....
 

ClearBarbedFunk

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Hola Pablos, I Hops lookin good, love they way you do your work, i read along everyday and i get so effin confused with all your doin, gotta be a madhouse around there, lol

you can get a idea how the OG work is commin along here..........
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=114087&page=2

your seed go like this.........(SFV X Ghost s1) X Ghost S1, different ghost males in each gen the Bubba OG is katsu Bubba X Ghost S1

ill post up some of the Bubba OGs in a bit, hare postin damn pics, takes so long from here.

CBF
 
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Closer uncle. I'm getting into personality expressions now. I hope to show myself and you all out there...that I can find my way through....and find myself something different and unique. I appreciate the inputs and views from my fellow ICers...when it's done I'll send my collection out and quit.

The SFV cut is all you need from OG Kush imo....that's after NOT having tried them all. But the SFV does it the way I like it. I'm fascinated with OG...I mean the 1st time I smoked it yrs ago...I was like...wow man....nice stuff. Then the hype....but well deserved in this case. Legend status deserved....I've never smoked out OG Kush with peeps and had anyone be unhappy.
 
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Hola Pablos, I Hops lookin good, love they way you do your work, i read along everyday and i get so effin confused with all your doin, gotta be a madhouse around there, lol

you can get a idea how the OG work is commin along here..........
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=114087&page=2

your seed go like this.........(SFV X Ghost s1) X Ghost S1, different ghost males in each gen the Bubba OG is katsu Bubba X Ghost S1

ill post up some of the Bubba OGs in a bit, hare postin damn pics, takes so long from here.

CBF

Talking about legends....thanks Funkman...It should be an interesting run. Much respect and gratitude from me to you.
 
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Eh hem....yeah I've been riding with lesbian bikers again, I let them drive the bike with me on the back...They certainly have some nice cuts!!!:)
 

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Hi Pablos. Ive been lurking here for a little bit and find what youre doing to be very interesting. I havent made many crosses myself that Ive tested yet.

Have you ever used a male or female that you were not sure what the lineage was, but liked the way the plant turned out?
 
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Final uddates for a week or so...

Final uddates for a week or so...

Workin' For the MCA.....7yrs of hard Xs coming down on me...shouldn't have signed the contract...goin' out to California.... goin' make me a super star

Talking about my Bubblegum bullshit project. I should tell you that i am not obsessed with BG....don't think it's the greatest thing since....well it's not my favorite. Yet I have this idea in my head that I can make one that will blow my mind and taste buds.

At day 44 Orange BrickHouse (Bogbubble x Red Eyed Bride X Calizahr)...under 30" tall...socking it up on Kool Bloom powder

Seeded flower....hit with Ma Kettle (Casey Jones X Grape Krush)..remember I used a very small bottom branch...just to make them rare lol....


Let's see...she smells like twangy Bubblegum....way better than my Bogbubbles ever smelled...not talking shit...just observations. I think the combination is there for Hubba Bubba Orange BG....something citrus will pop....or not.

My current OD flushing ChemDDIX1....59daze...she loves the ODs...she has revamped herself to carry forth in furry and passion to live. I love this plant so much...and yes...I'm catering to her by bringing her in every night and flushing with rain water.



Now see here....at day 50....left ChemDDIX1 right The Crunge...still hungry and still feeding



A different batch...at day 40....ChemDDIX1 left right The Crunge. Note the two batches are almost duplicates. The DDs are the same phenotype as the older OD sister above. The Crunge are their own thingys....but for sure they have been influenced by the Grape Krush males. Should be a breakthrough with the Crunges



Ride on train.....

The Crunge= Karoline Krutch X Prune Juice

Prune Juice= Querkle X Grape Krush

Karoline Krutch= AbusiveKushHaze x Sour Bubble X Grape Krush

I gots to go to the airport peeps....
 
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Hi Pablos. Ive been lurking here for a little bit and find what youre doing to be very interesting. I havent made many crosses myself that Ive tested yet.

Have you ever used a male or female that you were not sure what the lineage was, but liked the way the plant turned out?

Thanks dude....and in answer....yes. Lineage is important but attraction and proofed pudding is more important. I started many of my early stuff with unknown cuts. Some worked and some didn't. I still have beans from unknowns. I don't sell beans...so I don't need to confirm lineages....whatever works is how it goes down.
 

silverhazefiend

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Chaco I hope u go tru with the CHEM d x (CHEM dd x haze) and the SIS ..I noticed there was a high m/f ratio on those the SIS x haze ..but the female I kept has the leather og leaf look and is stinky ..short hairs so far might have hard dense nugs by the looks ..did u pop any of the ss x haze ?

Pablos ..nice work ..and I like how u explained relationship and crosses that suck ..I feel the same way ..
 

freeganja

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Thanks Pablos. I just bought the Old Pink mix pack. It contains Sour Diesel, Casey Jones, Kali mist & AK 47 genes. I think Ill find a winner in that pack.
 
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some of this stuff is coming in....

some of this stuff is coming in....

I harvested a ChemDDIX1 at day 71 and the Blind Willy Haze at day 78...this morning...they could keep going or they could be harvested so I could have something to hang. I chose to harvest. Sometimes I need to get shit out of the way....I don't grow in no tar pit...shit has to move on.

The DD is on the left and the BWH (Wonder Haze X ELEBX1 x ChemDBX2IX1) on the right....cousins or something like that



Nice plants....chemical sour shit citrus skunk aromas about covers it....the BWH more citrus the DD more skunk. Both were partially pollinated with the DD male and beans are abundant on those branches.

Very enjoyable plants to grow....I could stay in this stuff for a little while and not get bored with the plants or the smoke they will produce. The Chem lines are that good...top of the food chain in most cases. Better than any 80's Skunk I ever had....better than most anything for that matter....

.... out of my mind and out of time with visiting peeps and work related stuff. It seems like I'll get no breaks for a while.....in fact...while I have the afternoon...I'm going to manicure the two harvested plants. I'm getting pulled in a couple different directions. I'm tired and beat up.

I have a couple DDs flushing OD (well...weather lately has put them behind sliding glass...but they get out when they can) also have a Crunge plant with them....some of the DDs will make the 80 day mark....flushing more stuff indoor....new stuff is rotating....old stuff is rotating...like always...and for how long? Pretty sick ass shit though....I'm happy with everything I'm growing.

Trying to get the motivation and inspiration to get into the next batch of beans...the CBF OG stuff and material I'll want to marinade it with....one thing I've learned while working lower yielding or slower growing plant expressions is to match them up well or die trying. Anyway....I'm thinking about it still.

Been tripping out harvesting young California Mugwort and making heavy dosed tea out of it....at Xs adding in droppers of the Joy Division tincture in individual shots of the tea....then running amuck on the trails for hrs....checking out other stands of herbs that I'll be harvesting through out the spring and summer....I'm getting heavier into endurance performance herbalism.

I can't even explain it....as I have not yet seen enough....but I have become more animalistic in my approach/insight to running and herbalism. I'm breaking through in constance....the only way i can explain it.
 

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Hola bro, the OG work won't be your best yielder visually, but you will be surprised when they weigh out, took a few pics tonite, I'll try and get to a pc tomorrow.

They actually have a bit of vigor, faster and Beefier then the moms. First plants to flower are packin it on here in the 9th week, IMO definitely need to get out to week 10.

No worries bro I know how it is with growin poor yielders at least they will make a decent density
 

unclefishstick

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nice thing about a personal use garden is low yielders are fine in many cases,as long as the dope is good,my "muffin" cut (sweetestcindy99) is only a fair for quantity but out of this world on the resin production scale...

heehee,not long til there are reports of nude running savages with snakeskin water bags full of cougar urine and herbs...calos casteneda style gatorade....
 

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