GreenMountain71
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using Botanicare PureBlend Pro Grow & Botanicare Liquid Karma! drips are tested 45 min to hour after feeding! did drop to 5.34 in both rooms! after stables should I raise ppms to 500? @ 396 - 413?
old Hps bulb?
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using Botanicare PureBlend Pro Grow & Botanicare Liquid Karma! drips are tested 45 min to hour after feeding! did drop to 5.34 in both rooms! after stables should I raise ppms to 500? @ 396 - 413?
GreenMountain71
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will also take some more picz so you can see how their lookin! Thanks again!
GreenMountain71
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They're looking nice! Still having a lil ph swing! Still doing what you said! Ph 5.34, drip ph 6.24
*Room 2 *ph 5.14, drip ph 6.17!
*Room 2 *ph 5.14, drip ph 6.17!
GreenMountain71
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I really need to sex these things to thin them out!
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You should go to home depot and buy a 20.00 HPS bulb if you can't afford anything.
5 grows, no wonder your plants are getting fried.
yes old bulbs will burn your plants.
I bet your light is orange as all hell.
5 grows, no wonder your plants are getting fried.
yes old bulbs will burn your plants.
I bet your light is orange as all hell.
GreenMountain71
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lol funny you say that! Was just there looking for one but they didint have a 430w hps! They have 400hps,400mh,250hps cheap! An no their not gettin fried from the light! Had a bad ph tester which was giving the wrong reading ( was reading 6.5 an it was really 7.5)! So if you look at the 20th picz compared to the 28th! But I am breaking down an gettin a 600 an a new bulb for the 430 next week!
GreenMountain71
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I have a 430 watt hps sunagro buld so I should be able to use a 400watt hps buld right?
bulbs
bulbs
lookin better now ,yes son agro lamps dont maintain lumens very well!
On the lamps scene for the 6oow if you can get the osram 600w Hps super 4y this is fine for 18 months they make a 400w 4y super also but not sure how it would be on a 430 ballast.A
I supplement 1000w osram hps with a 400w 8k micron metal halide between 2 x 1000 hps .A
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lookin better now ,yes son agro lamps dont maintain lumens very well!
On the lamps scene for the 6oow if you can get the osram 600w Hps super 4y this is fine for 18 months they make a 400w 4y super also but not sure how it would be on a 430 ballast.A
I supplement 1000w osram hps with a 400w 8k micron metal halide between 2 x 1000 hps .A
PH ec
PH ec
Ok with the ph its how itll be allways a ballancing act its working well now and you can figure whats needed .dont be scared to go down more if you need to it wont hurt if the pot drips come out the right ph
Now i build up my nutes with seedlings pretty quick in hydroton so
with your nutes max veg 1200 ppm same in flower but with flower feed .
Its possible the ph swing might be more or less with higher ppm nutes .A
PH ec
Ok with the ph its how itll be allways a ballancing act its working well now and you can figure whats needed .dont be scared to go down more if you need to it wont hurt if the pot drips come out the right ph
Now i build up my nutes with seedlings pretty quick in hydroton so
with your nutes max veg 1200 ppm same in flower but with flower feed .
Its possible the ph swing might be more or less with higher ppm nutes .A
GreenMountain71
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I did raise the ppms in one room! Here a copy of my log for the night feed!
Room 1 ph 5.37 drip ph 6.37
Ph 5.36 before, ph 5.63 after! Drip ph 6.36, Ph 6.01 in bottom of table!
3-1-11
418Ppm
Mom room ph 4.78 drip ph 5.79
Flower room ph 4.83, ph in pots while feeding 5.78 to 5.93! Ph 5.58 after feeding in rez!
Drip ph 6.57
375Ppm during feeding
3-3-11 flower room
Res ph 5.42 Drip 5.79 2nd plant ph 6.24 656 ppm
Veg room
Res ph 5.48 drip 1 ph 6.16 2nd ph 6.04 3rd plant ph 6.34 (jst moved from flower room 3-2-11) plant 4 ph 6.50 ("""") ppm 431
ok ph variation
ok ph variation
I think the variation in ph between plants is size of root systems bigger plant/root higher ph swing
Look at the iron in your nutes do they use etda and dpta iron as canna does as at higher ph the dpta iron is still availble.
Ideally with ebb/flow you would be using cuttings all same pheno all same size and your ph would be within 10% in all plants .
Im pleased to see your checking ph in pot during flood.A
ok ph variation
I think the variation in ph between plants is size of root systems bigger plant/root higher ph swing
Look at the iron in your nutes do they use etda and dpta iron as canna does as at higher ph the dpta iron is still availble.
Ideally with ebb/flow you would be using cuttings all same pheno all same size and your ph would be within 10% in all plants .
Im pleased to see your checking ph in pot during flood.A
GreenMountain71
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I've looked on the bottle an even on the site an I can't find anything about the iron! http://botanicare.net/fertilizers ! I'm goin to sex them now to thin out! Then setup another ebb system in the mother room to keep the strains apart! Then I will clone! I did move all big plants into the same table! The G13,sd,nycd seem to adapt! The sb an it's crosses are very slow! I could take clones off them all but I would rather sex them an as soon as they show I have another room on 24/7! So as of today they are on 12/12! Wish me luck!
ok no matter about dpta iron
ok no matter about dpta iron
When i used sylvania 1000w metal halides in the uk to grow from seed in hydroton using 3 inch rockwool cubes it took 18 days in ebb/flow to show sex ,so you can understand just how fast you can grow in ideal conditions .
I dont ever cut the daylength to identify sex but many do .good luck
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ok no matter about dpta iron
When i used sylvania 1000w metal halides in the uk to grow from seed in hydroton using 3 inch rockwool cubes it took 18 days in ebb/flow to show sex ,so you can understand just how fast you can grow in ideal conditions .
I dont ever cut the daylength to identify sex but many do .good luck
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GreenMountain71
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wow that's fast! I've heard of people doing that! I would love to learn that! I can tell from my experience seems to be the faster better looking plants turn to males! Lol! Or I just have bad luck!i would like to post some better pics of some of mine an I'll mark then an see the %! It's up to you? I know it's hard to do it not being able to touch an see with your own eyes! An I only have a cam phone anyways! I've only done from seed in hydro back in 95 with a baby bloomer! I never had to use ph down at all or a ppm! Must of been perfect water! Using Dutch Magic! Then upgraded to the hydrofarm ebb& flo an filled with P2! so I see what you mean by keeping all the same pheno! lot less problems!
my plans now are to sex then clone as their sexing. then run 6 at a time to choose the best pheno of each strain! then tranzplant into a ebb @ grow buckets for the moms! an use the ebb & flo tables for my cycle! Just sounds good on paper! Hope it all works out! Thanks for all your help!
