There's a thread floating around here somewhere that states plants only use 6 hours of a conventional, 12 hour lights-on cycle. How does this translate to auto strains running 24/0?
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Purple Monster
Mitch, have you ran any side by side tests or is this just your opinion?
I have seen runs personally where 12/12 vs 24/0 auto runs were done and there was no major increase in yield with the 24/0 photoperiod.
As stated, that's just in my opinion. Taken from grows where I have ran AF's on different light schedules. It just made sense to me that way, but i'm not a botanist and I haven't ran a 12/12 side by side to prove otherwise.
Are any of the runs you mentioned documented anywhere?
P.s not being arsey at all, I'd like to know the answer.
Are any of the runs you mentioned documented anywhere?
P.s not being arsey at all, I'd like to know the answer.
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Purple Monster
Nah I was just curious, I ran a few runs myself, as well as a friend, and no I didn't document it, but noted alot of similar yields between both light cycles. I was trying to see if you could save money on power and still yield the same. I think you can.
You may be right.. I would love to see a side by side comparison grow though.
Identical set-ups, Seeds planted the same day, One space on 12/12 and one on 24/0
That would be a really interesting grow show.
I hope someone will do one soon.
Just remembered the last time I had both 12/12 strains and regular strains going at the same time it was under CFL (years ago) and in non identical setups. The AF's did better for me yield-wise but that's far from conclusive I know.
Identical set-ups, Seeds planted the same day, One space on 12/12 and one on 24/0
That would be a really interesting grow show.
I hope someone will do one soon.
Just remembered the last time I had both 12/12 strains and regular strains going at the same time it was under CFL (years ago) and in non identical setups. The AF's did better for me yield-wise but that's far from conclusive I know.
mosstrooper
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Yes this would be very interesting, one of the things i like about the 12/12 thing indoors is that while im flowering im saving power.
I would have thought that autos would use more than 6 a day at optimum or near optimum, but it might vary even between auto strains too.
One would expect landrace auto cannabis to be able to harness more usefull hours as those odd plants that can would be much more sucsessfull at creating seed in such a short natural growing season, you would expect natural selection to have taken care of that for you already.
Your gro looks great La Buena Hierba SWEET lol peace out Headband707
yeh spot on dude, if you only need to keep a few mothers in your veg room and you have some extra space bang some AF's in there, it couldn't hurt
Its sad I had to read this post, but in all honesty it is very true. Joint Doctor screwed me on a Blue Streak deal so badly, that I literally wanted to ring his neck. He kept on selling Blue Streak in 10 or so seedbanks that he was not given permission to sell, as the stock was supposed to be long gone, but nope, JD had them forever. When I saw that Mossy had this deal with JD, I cringed knowing what the outcome would be. I will rip his ass anywhere in any thread anytime, and he knows it. The deal I had with him was a huge joke, and he mader all of the money, after he destroyed the strain.
When I first sent him my Blue Streak seeds to mass produce, thanks to some help from S_a_H, he told me he was jealous of how well the Blue Streak plants were growing, and flowering. He was very, very impressed, and he was to make them in a feminized form as well. After 1 year, he finally tells me that all of the feminized seeds didnt take, and the plants were no good. That his "friend' fucked them up, and now he, JD would have to start over and do it himself, but just in standard seed, not fem. Well after another 6 months they finally are released, a full year and a half after I was ready to release them myself.
I was given a bunch of the BS seeds he made, and what a disaster, all of them were runts, low quality, something had happened, what though, I do not know.
In the end I got to monthly payments , and the initial deposit, that was it. Hes a smart business man, I'll tell you that.
When I first sent him my Blue Streak seeds to mass produce, thanks to some help from S_a_H, he told me he was jealous of how well the Blue Streak plants were growing, and flowering. He was very, very impressed, and he was to make them in a feminized form as well. After 1 year, he finally tells me that all of the feminized seeds didnt take, and the plants were no good. That his "friend' fucked them up, and now he, JD would have to start over and do it himself, but just in standard seed, not fem. Well after another 6 months they finally are released, a full year and a half after I was ready to release them myself.
I was given a bunch of the BS seeds he made, and what a disaster, all of them were runts, low quality, something had happened, what though, I do not know.
In the end I got to monthly payments , and the initial deposit, that was it. Hes a smart business man, I'll tell you that.
I can see why you decided to sell soley through the bay/boo after that mdanzig.
It's much better to produce less beans but ones that you can assure the quality of.
It's much better to produce less beans but ones that you can assure the quality of.
If I can't buy it at the boo or the buy, then I'm not buyin...
Hiya All!
Nah,I'm not pissed,there was an off-topic argument here that irked me-No big deal.
(If I wanted to argue the merits,or lack thereof,of AF's,I would have started a thread called "AFs Suck,Let's Argue"!)
That said,I'm pleased to get into an AF Project with you-Supplying Reservoir genetics for such a Project would be My Pleasure.
For sativa,SSSDH S1s,I believe,would be a great base for an AF-since they tend to auto to an nth' degree,any way.
If M/F seeds are a preferred base,then SSSDH IX-I is the answer.
For indica,a Chemdog IBL-based AF is imo a good idea,but you'd have to introduce AF-dominant,indica-based genes as the Chemdog isn't prone to AF'ing.
If you had an Afghani with strong AF traits that'd be a great choice,for instance.
Chemdog IBL's best traits-sheer power,heady flavor and compact,super-heavy flower/cola structure,all are very dominant and usually transfer well when out-crossed to well-chosen
P1 Stock.
Most Importantly,what interests you,Mdanzig?
Or better yet,what does the AF community need?
What's seriously lacking in AF's right now?
Potency?
Flavor?
Speed?
Once we answer those questions,we can determine what direction this Project should take.
So.... Input?
Cheers!
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I've never bothered with autos or fems, as I never really saw the attraction to either. However, there has been a lot of effort put into autos in the last few years, and some of the pics and grow reports I've seen on autos lately has really piqued my interest.
I'm to the point where I think I want to give some of the new autos a shot. Hell, I'm sure I've dropped good money on crap seed in the past, so it's not like it would be a shocker if I wasn't blown away. But if some of the pics and smoke reports are to be believed, I sure might be pleasantly surprised.
I can be quite happy with decent mids, so if an auto can rival that level of potency, I think it's worth a shot at least.
At this point in the game, I'm open to the possibility. 5 years ago I'd have been against it. Now I'm seriously considering it.
They have their place, just like fems. Plenty of room for all in this game.
I'm to the point where I think I want to give some of the new autos a shot. Hell, I'm sure I've dropped good money on crap seed in the past, so it's not like it would be a shocker if I wasn't blown away. But if some of the pics and smoke reports are to be believed, I sure might be pleasantly surprised.
I can be quite happy with decent mids, so if an auto can rival that level of potency, I think it's worth a shot at least.
At this point in the game, I'm open to the possibility. 5 years ago I'd have been against it. Now I'm seriously considering it.
They have their place, just like fems. Plenty of room for all in this game.
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madback
hey mdanzig!
thanks for clearing that story up, I was wondering about that a little while ago.
thanks for clearing that story up, I was wondering about that a little while ago.
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auto guerilla
hey mdanzig and rezdog, if you guys are gonna try making new af strains can you please consider something with the ducksfoot trait for stealth growing outdoors. this would be a very well disguised practical plant to grow for many. i have mentioned that someone should make this cross on another thread but this seems like the rite place to do it with you both here. anyways let us know if this is possible. thanks
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auto guerilla
btw i currently grow stitches mi5 and onyx which are great. does he contribute to these forums or is he elsewhere. if he is here what name does he go by? does anyone know if hes working on any other strains?
Auto ducksfoot is in progress. At least by a few people.
Stitch is on another forum.
Stitch is on another forum.
It's already in the works.
Here is the ducksfoot mama used in the crossed
Here is a female and male Ducksfoot x Spyder F1
