Sell Me On AF's,I Dare Ya!
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dargo
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as for people being worried about af's male pollen getting to their non af buds, all breeding by anyone who knows there stuff does it in a controlled environment where this cant happen. if your worried about male pollen in general then look to non af growers as well. only females belong in the grow spots. we should all keep it this way out of respect for other growers in case there's any near you. i for one have a very well contained seed production of af's. nothing gets in nothing gets out but air..and a little smell lol
Knowing what those folks have in their heads won't change my so called rant.
Hell, I already discount their take on things.
dargo
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how can anyone have a problem with af's if it doesnt affect them. fair enough people dont like them but some people act like af's growers are hurting them. if there's one person that has been negatively affected by af's then please enlighten me because i dont see how its possible. before you say the whole pollinating my buds thing read my post which is 3 post before this...
Reckoner
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I have to agree (well I dont know very much about genetic but anyway
) but all I'm saying is what you see as a flow can be an interesting characteristic for other people, which doesnt have to be avoided at all cost.But what if I grow the shitty bag seeds from shitty buds I can find in my area, and it pollinates your crop ? Your are still pissed off and there's no auto involved. If autos represent an opportunity for me, as I cant grow regular seeds all year long, should I be worried about pollinating other's crop and decide not to grow them ?
Haven't evolved? Don't speak from ignorance, they have gotten better and bigger every year and will continue to do so. If I smoked Spyder with you, you would be just as high as smoking a non AF strain. I smoke dozens of different high quality strains every week (non AF) and Spyder holds it own.
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Not speaking from ignorance.
The majority of AFs lack potency and quality flavor/taste. I can't speak for Spyder, though I can speak for masterlow, mossy gems, dieselryders, which are all relatively low in potency and don't exactly have the best flavor.
If someone wants to truly revolutionize the AF genetics available, they will most likely have to start from scratch.
WasntMe
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mmm... sounds tasty
mosstrooper
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Wow!! Baba Ku, you are on such incredibly dodgy ground, isnt it true that the National Socialist regime in Germany started its systematic killing of the (institutionalised) disabled population using exactly the same argument?
Anyway, be that as it may, 10% of Motor neurone disease can be tested for genetically, Stephen Hawking has MND, if we eliminated him earlier, the science of cosmology would be poorer for it.
The fact that they havent found a genetic determinant for Stephen Hawkings MND doesn't mean that they wont in the future.
Sweden also sterilised 64000 people between 1934 and 1975 for similar reasons.
And as for "how do you stop an outdoor growers AF pollen from flying into my field?" Well, i dont grow males outdoors with my females, they are culled on sight. I doubt anyone would waste money on AF seed just to plant it out and leave it to do what comes naturally.
As someone else pointed out, it would be the same problem if any males from any strain are left out close enough to fertilise your outdoor weed, nobody wants seedy weed do they?
And on the preventative principle that it might harm you (or your crop), therefore it should be stopped, well, thats the argument the "Just say No" types use to justify the continued prohibition of weed, since it might make people mentally ill!!!! And therefore dangerous, either to you or to themselves.
Think again, freedom is a very fine thing.
Go look at any of the newb question threads. People will go out and buy the equipment for a 3k op and then post things like "I've got 3000w of HPS 6 inches above my seedlings... why aren't they doing better?"
Some people are stupid. Some people are lazy. Some people are stupid AND lazy. And some of them get the idea that they should be growers.
I wouldn't say his fears are completely unjustified. I'm certain this can/will happen to someone.
But IMHO, it's going to take a major revolution in AF before they are so popular that their random pollination can overtake the 'normal" genetics that are just as likely to have owners who randomly pollinate others crops.
It's not a stretch to think that if you breed two genetics that the plant will lean to one of those genetics and pick up the auto trait. peace out Headband707
mosstrooper
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People drive without insurance, but that doesnt mean we should ban cars.
Im more worried about Japanese knotweed or Himalayan Balsam than a few accidental pollinations of my weed.
Where i am, it wouldnt be possible to grow weed outdoors without harnessing autoflowering traits.
Mosstrooper, do get a grip.
I am not on dodgy ground whatsoever, it is YOU bringing up such stupid shit.
If you don't understand the truth behind genetics and inbreeding, sorry for you. Facts are facts. WTF do you need to bring in the other bullshit? See, the part that I mentioned has merit..and is factual. Perhaps you dispute facts...I really don't know nor care...but don't drag me into some politically correct slime with your smarmy implications.
Look, the man is looking for what folks think about AF strains. He knows what is what and the implications that AF's bring to the table. I was simply offering my opinion of them.
I think for the 54 folks living in Siberia that have no choice but to grow them, they are peachy keeno.
That sieg heil shit can get shoved right back up your ass, Jr. (whoever the degenerate was that started that bullshit)
And I love you drive by negative rep leavers. Coward fucks.
Why do people (read; kids) get so goddamn bent out of shape over a discussion? Well, I know why...but, why?
I am not on dodgy ground whatsoever, it is YOU bringing up such stupid shit.
If you don't understand the truth behind genetics and inbreeding, sorry for you. Facts are facts. WTF do you need to bring in the other bullshit? See, the part that I mentioned has merit..and is factual. Perhaps you dispute facts...I really don't know nor care...but don't drag me into some politically correct slime with your smarmy implications.
Look, the man is looking for what folks think about AF strains. He knows what is what and the implications that AF's bring to the table. I was simply offering my opinion of them.
I think for the 54 folks living in Siberia that have no choice but to grow them, they are peachy keeno.
That sieg heil shit can get shoved right back up your ass, Jr. (whoever the degenerate was that started that bullshit)
And I love you drive by negative rep leavers. Coward fucks.
Why do people (read; kids) get so goddamn bent out of shape over a discussion? Well, I know why...but, why?
Baba Ku for Fuhrer!
Autoflowers serve a purpose to a very small amount of growers.
I don't think we need every seed company pushing them however.
Autofemmedanything doesn't say "future of cannabis" to me... but that's just me.
Back to Baba teaching all of us "kids" the wisdom the world holds.
Autoflowers serve a purpose to a very small amount of growers.
I don't think we need every seed company pushing them however.
Autofemmedanything doesn't say "future of cannabis" to me... but that's just me.
Back to Baba teaching all of us "kids" the wisdom the world holds.
