Bill Introduced To Legalize and Tax Marijuana

[mean mr.mustard]

Besides all those who have come out and said they will never support any legalization, or those who claim to support it yet only in a form that is completley illogical and unrealistic (i.e. no taxes, regulation or licensing) ?

I'm curious as to how you know who deserves what and what constitutes realistic... but I may not want to know an answer to that... I could go blind if you start glowing angelic.

or those who say they will not support legislation that is not even written..
or the ones who spread lies about 19 after having been proven wrong

So you ask me what I won't (hypothetically) support so you can hold the fact that no bill is on the table, as evidence to me not supporting any bill?

I've been asking you what these lies are for months.

It's about time you posted some.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

I really enjoy all these people acting as if im just making shit up here and there is full fledge support for legalization.

Just go through the 19 thread. Plenty of people coming out in blatant opposition of any form of legalization and even more that just made up ridiculous claims and ludacris scenarios in which 19 would have created the apocalypse of the cannabis society and therefore justified their ill-reputed stance against it. You antis can play the "who me?" card all you want, and act as if your intentions are nothing but pure and innocent, but we know what your all about....and if you think anyone is so foolish and naive to believe different, the only one you are fooling is yourself.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I really enjoy all these people acting as if im just making shit up here and there is full fledge support for legalization.

Just go through the 19 thread. Plenty of people coming out in blatant opposition of any form of legalization and even more that just made up ridiculous claims and ludacris scenarios in which 19 would have created the apocalypse of the cannabis society and therefore justified their ill-reputed stance against it. You antis can play the "who me?" card all you want, and act as if your intentions are nothing but pure and innocent, but we know what your all about....and if you think anyone is so foolish and naive to believe different, the only one you are fooling is yourself.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=182317

There's the saga just for reference.

I'm actually a "yes on a real bill" guy.

I'm wondering if a new bill is better than fixing this one, if that is actually possible eventually.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

...and what is a "real" bill in your eyes mustard?

 

[THE PABLOS]

Yes or no....the same entity blogs about getting their beer spilled and beefing with security at Coors Amp....and this is a $$$$$ king pin? Maybe on the internet....fun fun fun in the fluffy chair

 

[mean mr.mustard]

...and what is a "real" bill in your eyes mustard?

We've spoken at length about this. It's written on precious bandwidth. I'm sure it was you who said "just go read the 19 thread".

I'm going to go put my head through a wall.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

We've spoken at length about this. It's written on precious bandwidth. I'm sure it was you who said "just go read the 19 thread".

I'm going to go put my head through a wall.

It would have taken you less time to lay out your ides of a real bill, rather then to find and post your smart ass little picture...

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

...and feel free to put your head through as many walls as you deem neccessary. Im sure many of us would find that far more of a contribution than the majority of your previous posts.

 

[schwagg]

back to WA. sensible put some info up for the three things going on.

 

[dagnabit]

So you ask me what I won't (hypothetically) support so you can hold the fact that no bill is on the table, as evidence to me not supporting any bill?

I've been asking you what these lies are for months.

It's about time you posted some.

not talking 'bout you necessarily in the former.
not really you in the latter either...

your objections about retroactive pardons were the only ones (imo) that were not bullshit hyperbole,that being said all of the hypothetical henny penny scenarios bandied about in the days leading up to november including the fictitious phillip morris land grab and the "19 will kill 215" scare tactic were proven lies at the time..
and anything that oozed out of "dragonfly" de la leo's mouth were absolute lies

 

[bentom187]

leaglize and tax, thats just another phrase for us to cop-out and regulate,for the people who put us in jail if they dont get money.

 

[bentom187]

leaglize,absolutley with no ammendments or conditions,like oak trees and green beans ect..... screw the U.S. govt and people who take up the same position,money shouldnt be accosiated with weed food or any sort of agriculture or water or anything natural, it was put here cause its part of a natural cycle.. not a profit cycle.

 

[trichrider]

and now a word from our sponsor...Kaiser Permanente...

http://www.bestsyndication.com/2005/Nicole-WILSON/081005-HMO-Plan-History.htm

the people who 'ran' Nixon, created the cannabis prohibition. it was healthcare related. big pharma recognized long ago the threat cannabis represented to their funding.

who said 60s radicals didn't come close? look who's in the white house; spawn of the panthers movement or some shit. if the hippies hadn't been so peaceful, then the murders at Kent State would have sparked what many are hoping for now.

 

[dagnabit]

l fuck the U.S. govt and people who take up the same position

the U.S. government position is to keep it illegal..
i agree with you 100% fuck anyone who sides with the gov./leo

 

[dagnabit]

who said 60s radicals didn't come close? look who's in the white house; spawn of the panthers movement or some shit. if the hippies hadn't been so peaceful, then the murders at Kent State would have sparked what many are hoping for now.

yes those same "radicals" from the '60s are the ones voting for palin in 2012 and helped create the "free speech zones" we see set up for protests today.
thanks hippies!
oh and thanks '60s hippies for voting with bush on the patriot act!

yeah hippies were ineffective in their time. i just wish they had stayed ineffective.....they have done WAAAAY more harm than good thus far.

 

[merlin123]

Big pharma figures they will lose 30 billion a year if mj is legalized.

 

[THE PABLOS]

Big pharma figures they will lose 30 billion a year if mj is legalized.

Why and how do they think they will lose 30 billion? No way.

 

[ddrew]

Why and how do they think they will lose 30 billion? No way.

Not the first year, but IMO, if it's legalized nationwide, and Doctors start speaking honestly about it, and the myriad array of symptoms that can be treated by it, then yes, I could easily see it resulting in that kind of loss for big pharma eventually.

 

[SmilinBob]

How much has prescription drug use(legal and illegal) dropped since the passing of MMJ in each state?

Bad news either way. If it drops, then you can guarantee they will get those profits back by getting a piece of the mmj pie once possible. If it doesn't drop then it's a huge sign that med may be a gimmick.

I think pushing medical as a way for recreational is the absolutely wrong way to go. Medication in the country is a huge monopoly. Yet most of you want it to go first, just because it's so great in CA.

If and/or when mmj is widely accepted how do you guys purpose getting it legalized for adult consumption like alcohol? You can't compare it to over the counter pills. It is an intoxicant. It will be regulated.

Am I missing something in all of this med before rec stuff? If the government ever does accept MMJ then it's more than likely going to be off the table completely for recreational use by adults.

Nothing medical in this country is taken lightly. Sure mmj is.. right now.. but that's only because big brother would have to do a 180.

If you think Joe blow is going to be able to grow pot without rules, regulations, and competition from 'not small' and 'not organic' with the intent of selling to people, medical patients no less.., then you're out of touch with reality.

Don't say look at CA or give any example of the market right now. I'm talking about later.

Going to be a big mess.

 

[ddrew]

Going to be a big mess.

What we have now is a big mess.
Swat teams kicking doors, shooting dogs and grandmas, ruining lives.


Some bureaucratic red tape is the kind of "Big mess" I'm really looking forward too.