Nutrients and Additives (UK)

[cheesey]

Not done a side by side but I swear I get more resin with hammerhead.

ill stick to what i know . no point changing if its working well ..

if i wasnt useing drippers i would do a side by side ...

 

[Hazyfontazy]

ill stick to what i know . no point changing if its working well ..

if i wasnt useing drippers i would do a side by side ...

have u tried the coco nute from canadian express ?
just wondeing if it would be better than cannas if using ce's additives

 

[cheesey]

have u tried the coco nute from canadian express ?
just wondeing if it would be better than cannas if using ce's additives

i havnt but edegy did . from what i remeber after mixing a 10 ltr bucket of the coco nutes it dropped his ph to 2.5 or something like that

 

[Dr. D]

anyone done a side by side ..canna pk13/14 versus potash or hammerhead ,,

it seems strange that canna still using the 13/14 ratio if its not as good as 9/18

Im interested in seeing where this 1/2 ratio for cannabis has come from.
Only person ive seen say it is fm and he is full of shit and re-iterated info imo.
Im using the H&G PK and found the results very impressive...im going to try the CE SP as well see how it goes. Im going to try the B'cuzz coco bloom stim out too cause i swear Top Max is affecting the taste of my buds, i wish they wouldnt change the ingredients of stuff like that...Peace

 

[Hazyfontazy]

i havnt but edegy did . from what i remeber after mixing a 10 ltr bucket of the coco nutes it dropped his ph to 2.5 or something like that

that dont sound too good does it ,,most nutes when mixed buffer to the correct ph ,,did edgey inform ce of this ?

 

[Hazyfontazy]

Im interested in seeing where this 1/2 ratio for cannabis has come from.
Only person ive seen say it is fm and he is full of shit and re-iterated info imo.
Im using the H&G PK and found the results very impressive...im going to try the CE SP as well see how it goes. Im going to try the B'cuzz coco bloom stim out too cause i swear Top Max is affecting the taste of my buds, i wish they wouldnt change the ingredients of stuff like that...Peace

i must admit ive never been impressed with any of the biobizz range ,always leaving a nasty taste ..

h&g pk is the same as cannas ,never got bad taste using it ,,vita buddy is half the ratio of pk13/14 but used from week 3 in flower .this tasted ok too ,,
i was never impressed with atamis bloombastic ,but their root and bloom stims worked well ...

3 awesome products imo are dutchmasters max veg and flower and their zone , i used all of them with canna coco and they work great ..

its all trial and error

 

[cheesey]

i was given a bottle of atamis bloombastic (doombastic) and tryed it on my lemon vemon about 4 weeks ago i only used it for 1 feed @ half strengh . the day after the feed leafs were yellowing and had tip burn .

res was emptyed and doombastic binned.....

 

[orangutang]

The 1:2 ratio comes from work done in the 70s and was written about by Mel Frank first, others since. There is a lot of evidence that flowering cannabis doesn't need more than 50ppm of P but can use many times that in K. You can push the K levels higher with some plants, some will take a ratio of 1:4 P to K, it's hard to change ratios if your PK booster has a 1:2 ratio. You can add extra K with things seaweed and molasses and that's part of why molasses boosts resin production a little I think. Top Max is molasses and seaweed mostly.

Hammerhead has been changed again and is now 2-4-10 so is really wierd, why would anyone want N in a PK booster?

 

[edgey]

that dont sound too good does it ,,most nutes when mixed buffer to the correct ph ,,did edgey inform ce of this ?

i spoke to CE and the hydro shop i bought it from and all i got back was " the ph will be spot on if u don't feed over 1.3ec

not much use when the plants were used to 1.6-1.8 lol

edgey

 

[theherbalizor]

AH dam I was hoping the CE coco feed would be quite good, I will get some from my local store and see how it mixes down here with my shit water.

I have done a side by side with Superiour Potash and Top Booster. I found the potash to be, well, superiour. LOL, sorry. Much better turp profile and better formed flowers. Does give more of the steroid calyxed up look.

 

[edgey]

i'd try the CE again in case it was a dodgy batch but just wouldn't buy it from the same shop

 

[Hazyfontazy]

i'd try the CE again in case it was a dodgy batch but just wouldn't buy it from the same shop

probably best ,cause the bloke who advised u dont sound like he knows what he's talking about ..

its weird though ,,thats a hell of a drop in ph ,,

 

[r1rider]

It`s been interesting in hearing some of your veiws on nutes these days, i`m happy in coco and only use min nutes, thats canna a+b then pk13/14 then H2O flush, my mate uses the full range of canna in coco and its got to bump up up his nute bill by at least £300 per grow.

I`v seen a few of you are using regeneroot, and potash from CE along with a+b from canna what are your veiws?

r1

 

[cheesey]

It`s been interesting in hearing some of your veiws on nutes these days, i`m happy in coco and only use min nutes, thats canna a+b then pk13/14 then H2O flush, my mate uses the full range of canna in coco and its got to bump up up his nute bill by at least £300 per grow.

I`v seen a few of you are using regeneroot, and potash from CE along with a+b from canna what are your veiws?

r1

nothing bad to say about regen a root . 10/10 same with headmasta not noticed much more yeild useing the potash tho .

 

[dawgsbolloxs]

Hesi for coco? any thoughts or experince? great info guys

 

[Hazyfontazy]

Hesi for coco? any thoughts or experince? great info guys

,i seen good results with their soil nutes ,i'd give the coco a go if they were obtainable locally ,i did order some online but they never turned up ,so just got cannas

 

[theherbalizor]

I wouldn't be looking to CX Potash for much of a yield increase, but a quality increase, better turp profile and bud structure.

 

[Dr. D]

I wouldn't be looking to CX Potash for much of a yield increase, but a quality increase, better turp profile and bud structure.

Im going to give that stuff a try run it along what im already doing see how it goes.
Onto this 1:2 PK ratio thing, has anyone actually checked the ratio when added with your base nute? Its all very well saying this is the ratio cannabis needs but i bet its not 1:2 ratio with your base nute.
If i add my base coco nute with the pk 13:14 the npk ratio is 4:17:17 and that made my buds on average increase in size by 35% so if a 1:2 ratio is what they require then should be seeing some drastic improvements over what i saw with that grow..Theres going to be some serious testing with flower nute ratios in my garden this year...im gonna grab some of the Canna separate nutes very soon! Peace

 

[orangutang]

PK13-14 isn't actually 0:13:14.

You need to do some reading and understand the molecular weights and purities of the salts involved before you can work out the precise ratios.

Hilarious you called someone full of shit over this but you don't have a clue yourself. They obviously don't pick moderators for their manners or intelligence.

 

[edgey]

after the CE thing popping up i decided to give it another try so i've just ordered a bottle of each

ultimate grow
ultimate bloom
headmasta
superior potash
regen r root

and a nice new block buster reflector to go with it

i'll use the lot on my new grow and see how it works out . i'll also be adding emerald shamen instead of the normal molasses i use

edgey