uk clone only! (and british bred strains)

[edgey]

there in coco , same room/temp as all the other plants , thats why i can't understand it

 

[bigwity]

the lemon venom doesnt taste that lemony in my opinion its more of a soft bubblegumlemonchewit type flavour its hard to deescribe. im sure youll love her edgey top work bro

 

[VerdantGreen]

if you have other plants of similar size that arent showing the symptoms then i would tip a couple of them upside down (the bad ones) on the palm of your hand and take the pot off to inspect the roots. (like making a sand castle ) it looks like a root problem to me, either cold/wet roots or something eating them - have you had a lot of gnats or could some root aphids have got in there??

 

[cheesey]

i know this isn't a sick plant thread but was after a bit of advice , my psychocindy seedlings and 2 wifi clones have all gone yellow in the space of 3 days .

is it worth trying to bring em round or would it be easier to start again , psychocindy isn't a problem i've got a pile of seeds but that would be the end of my wifi cut !!

i tired getting epsom salts to try but local b&q had none so if that will help i'll try the garden centre tomorrow

anyone ??

thanks
edgey

explane about the ph run off too mate

 

[edgey]

explane about the ph run off too mate

i've binned the psychocindy and repotted the wifi . i'll start a new grow with the PC when i get the problem sorted , run off is still coming out at 6.7ph even when fed with ph'd water at 5.2 ???

beats me !!

edgey

 

[<~Hades~>]

i've binned the psychocindy and repotted the wifi . i'll start a new grow with the PC when i get the problem sorted , run off is still coming out at 6.7ph even when fed with ph'd water at 5.2 ???

beats me !!

edgey

Bad batch of starter mix? still looks like cold root problems maybee other not affected becuase there big with larger root system..........all in all what the things that are diffrent from your usaul grow and bloom routine

 

[Aardwolf]

I'm certain that starting seeds in coco is bad practice, it works but not well. sometimes I see people sow direct into rock-wool another terrible habbit, Soil is better IMHO. I assume that the feminized cross was not as good as it could be. It won't be the soil as you say its coco and everything else is Kosher, mabe the seed line is dud, when it gets so old it gives up and dies, I.e No valuable genetic contribution,, I have had train-wreak and all sorts of strains do this its mainly from poor breeding techniques, sometimes if you pot them on into huge pots and give them enough light they will revive but sometimes they just die,,

Or mabe there starving of phosphorus from imbalance of ph being to acidic causing M, Mg P N Ca lockout,, ph in coco is 5.8 0.1 either way is danger-zone Cal mag territory. Like VG says temps in soil play the key role K isn't used by the plant under 14 degrees and none of the micro nutes and trace elements Mabe try grow 1 and clone it out into coco from soil this helps,,

Good luck with the WiFi,

 

[funkymonkey]

Nah, starting seeds in coco is fine, done literally hundreds of them. Starting in soil then planting in coco is a very bad idea, never take a plant in soil and repot it in coco it is a recipe for root rot because the soil retains all the moisture from the coco around it and the roots in the soil part soon start to rot.

That looks like a root problem to me, I'd let em dry out and the ones that survive that long give a light dose of rhizotonic and feed at ec 1.0.

That's not right about having to use 5.8 in coco, anywhere between 5.5 and 6.5 is generally okay with 90% of plants but really you should aim for 5.8 in veg and early flower, 6.0 in mid flower and 6.2 in late flower.

Seeds have to be pretty old to be weak, at least 5 years and those seeds aren't anywhere near that old. It isn't down to poor breeding techniques either, even the shittiest plants will produce good seed that grows properly.

Aardwolf, are you cannaboy? You sound like him, trying to act like the master grower but getting all your facts a bit wrong.

 

[EddieShoestring]

Edgy:re the runoff-were you adding anything to the feed that might make it bounce back up again-like Si? I wouldn't have thought that a ph of 6.7 alone would cause all of those symptoms-
at first glance they look like some smaller plants do when the coir is too soggy-
seems clear from those pics that it is not the genetics or anything to do with dud seedlines

I have found coir to be excellent for seedlings-
i forgot about these ones-and was about to put them in a salad but stuck them in a bed of coir in a fairly agricultural fashion, assuming most would wither and die

every single one survived-i don't mean most-every single one.

surely a testament to the power of the coir?

after 2months of not growing it all got the better of me tonight and i've put on:
Arctic Sun x AK47 (B@klo)
C99 F3 (B@klo)
a pack of Sensi Indoor Mix (bought between 2000-5)
and two of my own Xs
AK47 x Early Pearl
PoG x Early Pearl (Golden Pearl)

cheers
eddieS

 

[funkymonkey]

Years ago I went to Mexico for a couple of weeks and left soem seeds in towels. When I got back they were growing in the bag, ever worse than eddie's example, they had even grown cotyledons and opened them. I planted them with 5-6 inch of the 7-8 inch of root/stem in pots of coco and they all grew fine.

 

[bannana man]

thanks cheesy ,verdant green and funky monkey for the advice. ill tell my mate .



also have any of you uk guys and gals tried my genetics ???
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=4142236#post4142236

also ive just become a seed vendor
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=200420

 

[bannana man]

heres a couple pics of sonic seeds kalishnapple =uk pineapple x kali mist .i selected this plant from seed which is now a clone only
NOT GROWN BY ME
but wow what a size

 

[VerdantGreen]

wow bm they is fat

you guys were talking about the sour d cuts a while back, well ive been very lucky and now have both the ECSD and the daywrecker/headband/DNA Sour D clones - along with a few others. im gonna try and run the two Sour D's side by side on a module/scrog each shortly. might be interesting, certainly will for me

VG

 

[cheesey]

wow bm they is fat

you guys were talking about the sour d cuts a while back, well ive been very lucky and now have both the ECSD and the daywrecker/headband/DNA Sour D clones - along with a few others. im gonna try and run the two Sour D's side by side on a module/scrog each shortly. might be interesting, certainly will for me

VG

the dna sour d is tastey shit . just remeber they strech bloody loads .

see what i meen if you check my grow out here

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=143494

 

[Ramius]

heres a couple pics of sonic seeds kalishnapple =uk pineapple x kali mist .i selected this plant from seed which is now a clone only
NOT GROWN BY ME
but wow what a size

Wow, very nice grow!

Congrats on getting your place on the bay bannana man

 

[dawgsbolloxs]

hi all,

edgey = I think its cold wet coir and then causings root rot locking out everything..the lv looks good bro i see you took it earlier than suggested,is she ponging now?

bman = great to see your now a vendor, congrats..ive always like yours and GB's work..ive run the kalisnapple cut only, she was a great smoke but not dense at all..however she looks fukin huge but no weight in her from my experince but that isnt everything... still looks the dawgs bolloxs!!..but i know your pal is running 9x6's and i was only using 4 and still they was as big, so i suspect they would probably be that bit denser ... all the best and thanks for sharing ...Love it

Eddie = if its anything to go by on the baklo crosses id keep an eye on the arctic x ak47 cross, I still run the arctic used for the cross and she is the biggest frutiest bitch ive come across and have run it for some 10 years now..is the ak the cherry pheno from the boys used in that cross some how?

LLp = looks like you got some selecting to do with all those new gems...all the best

Later

 

[Hazyfontazy]

wow bm they is fat

you guys were talking about the sour d cuts a while back, well ive been very lucky and now have both the ECSD and the daywrecker/headband/DNA Sour D clones - along with a few others. im gonna try and run the two Sour D's side by side on a module/scrog each shortly. might be interesting, certainly will for me

VG

ive been saying from day 1 that the sd from dna was headband and not ecsd ,it will be nice to see them done side by side

 

[VerdantGreen]

ive never grown or tried either - cant wait! got a few other cuts too...

 

[theherbalizor]

Glad you liking the cuts bro. The BB, Heri, LT 3 are all going strong. LT2 still in prop.

I love the DNA cut the best I think. Both have equal stretch. The DNA cut having the diesel smell and taste but with added meat or funk from the chem showing through and a def tone of the mass - a slight background milkyness.

Here is the CC cut at day 84

The DNA cut

Both grown side by side but the DNA was at the very edge of the tent and yeilded half to 1/3 of the CC.

 

[Aardwolf]

Nah, starting seeds in coco is fine, done literally hundreds of them. Starting in soil then planting in coco is a very bad idea, never take a plant in soil and repot it in coco it is a recipe for root rot because the soil retains all the moisture from the coco around it and the roots in the soil part soon start to rot.

That looks like a root problem to me, I'd let em dry out and the ones that survive that long give a light dose of rhizotonic and feed at ec 1.0.

That's not right about having to use 5.8 in coco, anywhere between 5.5 and 6.5 is generally okay with 90% of plants but really you should aim for 5.8 in veg and early flower, 6.0 in mid flower and 6.2 in late flower.

Seeds have to be pretty old to be weak, at least 5 years and those seeds aren't anywhere near that old. It isn't down to poor breeding techniques either, even the shittiest plants will produce good seed that grows properly.

Aardwolf, are you cannaboy? You sound like him, trying to act like the master grower but getting all your facts a bit wrong.

You misread I believe, I simply said grow a plant in soil and clone it into coco its simple not mix the 2 substrates,, like the Victorians,,

Hope this helps,