Fan Leaf plant Tea

[catcherintheye]

I toss all my defoliated leaves, and petioles when trimming, Can they be brewed into a compost tea with worm castings and bennies such as stinging nettle can be?

Anyone try this, does it work and does anyone know the analysis of nutrional content? I have heard to dump your bubble hash waste water onto your plants and that they love it. Thanks I need a good organic dirt cheap if not free nitrogen source.

 

[Daffy]

I use them in the reg. compost bin, stingles nettles tea uses a same process, so why not. Yes you can. IDK about solubility or nute analysis of it but Id imagine it going to depend on what you fed em in 1st place, strain, plant, any # of other factors, my guess is mostly N, some PK, Mg, Ca, and S, along with some trace elements in a proportion to fan leaves nute requisites.

 

[catcherintheye]

sweet thank you, Im going to throw them into my brew and hopefully theyll add a bit of N.

 

[Microbeman]

Try it but I'd be more inclined to make a fermentation as is made with nettles etc. Jaykush is the primary authority on the subject.

Compost tea is not plant tea and is a source of microbes rather than nutrients. If you place plant matter into a compost tea brew, I would suggest not brewing longer than 8 hours unless you have a super air pump.

 

[grapeman]

What the title says. I toss all my defoliated leaves, and petioles when trimming, Can they be brewed into a compost tea with worm castings and bennies such as stinging nettle can be?

Anyone try this, does it work and does anyone know the analysis of nutrional content? I have heard to dump your bubble hash waste water onto your plants and that they love it. Thanks I need a good organic dirt cheap if not free nitrogen source.

Good way to develop "mad cow" in your plants.

 

[Microbeman]

Good way to develop "mad cow" in your plants.

hehehehehe!! At least I get 'your' jokes grapeman.

 

[jaykush]

no need to aerate, just soak for a week, strain, dilute 1:20. apply to the soil

 

[iSMOKE.KUSH]

Good way to develop "mad cow" in your plants.

agreed. lolol. that was my first thought. cannibal plants. yeesh.

 

[catcherintheye]

Its "mad herb".

Thanks Jay, I think I will just brew my bennies separate. I got a ten gallon air pump i use for one gallon of brew. But a great and obvious point was brought up on the differences in purpose of both a nettle or leaf tea as opposed to a compost tea.

Ima try the two liter bottle method with a little hole and let it drain out on its own. Itl be my first time using a fermented nute, Kinda worried about burning or problems. So Jay you say one part brew per 20 parts water? thanks peace guys.

 

[jaykush]

Thanks Jay, I think I will just brew my bennies separate. I got a ten gallon air pump i use for one gallon of brew. But a great and obvious point was brought up on the differences in purpose of both a nettle or leaf tea as opposed to a compost tea.

yes thats good. they both have different purposes, best made separately and applied separately.

Ima try the two liter bottle method with a little hole and let it drain out on its own. Itl be my first time using a fermented nute, Kinda worried about burning or problems. So Jay you say one part brew per 20 parts water? thanks peace guys.

i highly recommend the other method, soaking the leaf material in water. you can use a gallon milk jug. if you make the lacto bacillus culture you can add that as well.

1:20 is good. if your worried 1:30 is fine.

 

[catcherintheye]

I dont make lacto bacillus but I can probably get some at a local store, I was looking into the bokashi and saw it used that culture, I was tripping that people feed that to their pets! I will look into culturing L.B.

Im pretty NOOB to the organics what would be the purpose of using L. Bascillus in the leaf fermentation mix? Thanks for your help again Jay, Im getting a proper education here

 

[jaykush]

I dont make lacto bacillus but I can probably get some at a local store, I was looking into the bokashi and saw it used that culture, I was tripping that people feed that to their pets! I will look into culturing L.B

i have a thread here to make gallons of the culture for pennies. search for it.

Im pretty NOOB to the organics what would be the purpose of using L. Bascillus in the leaf fermentation mix? Thanks for your help again Jay, Im getting a proper education here

bioprocessing of the nutrients in the leaves into available forms and keeps smell down.

 

[catcherintheye]

Its the fermented smell that gets me leary on givin the stuff to my plants. So I think it would be in my best interest to toss some LB cultures in the mix.

Say I use a milk gallon, how much purchased(ima buy it to start) LB culture should I put in the gallon, to plant matter ratio? Im sorry I know this is answered in the nettle tea and other threads.

Cant wait to learn to make the Lacto.. peace respect.

 

[jaykush]

i can guarantee you that if you dont pour the stuff undiluted on your plants they will be fucking happy, diluted the plants love the smelly stuff.

with the lacto b. go read the thread, if you started with a gallon you would end up with like 40 gallons or more of lacto b culture. i think the thread has instructions on 1/4 cup which comes to a gallon or two of final culture.

 

[catcherintheye]

ok so I got my nettles, they hurt. Next time take gloves and scissors. I made a tasty soup and soaked a bottle about 500 ml full of nettles in water, Didnt add any Lacto b. I hope it will be fine. Ill dillute it really well. Im gona ferment for about twenty days. Im saving up my fan leaves from my lady, do the teas have to be made with fresh plant jay?

 

[jaykush]

no teas do not have to be made with fresh leaf, you can slow dry, and powder the plants and store them well for up to a year. keep in mind dry powder is a lot stronger than fresh, so you dont need as much. mmm nettle soup, next time try nettle pesto.

also i think 2 weeks is good enough for the fermentation, if you want to you do 2 weeks, strain out the material, add that material to a new jar and re fill with water, this will give ya a little bit weaker tea but still does its job.

 

[Mezz Mezzrow]

no teas do not have to be made with fresh leaf, you can slow dry, and powder the plants and store them well for up to a year. keep in mind dry powder is a lot stronger than fresh, so you dont need as much. mmm nettle soup, next time try nettle pesto.

also i think 2 weeks is good enough for the fermentation, if you want to you do 2 weeks, strain out the material, add that material to a new jar and re fill with water, this will give ya a little bit weaker tea but still does its job.

When fermenting leaves (or any making any organic tea for that matter) would it help to inoculate with sour (not rancid) raw milk?

 

[catcherintheye]

nettle pesto sounds awesome, I found literally a giant field. field of dreams status. Probably the only nettle in the area. Its living in a perfect micro-climate. MMM raw milk sounds tasty... not rancid tho. haha.

I think I will ferment for 21 days and store the nasty stuff in a mason jar after straining it. Ill fill that with water and from there dilute it 1:50, im taking no risks, I have no test plants and only one lady in a scrog. So any harm to her for unnecessary reason would be devastating. If the results are good I am really gona start exploring with teas and em1 and lacto b. Theres tons of nettle and dandelion around here. I dont think theres any comfrey (i dont even know what that is) but it seems to be a popular FPE.

 

[Mezz Mezzrow]

MMM raw milk sounds tasty... not rancid tho. haha.

One of the cool things about raw milk is it doesn't really get rancid, it just turns into sour cream. I grew up thinking sour milk was that horrible smelling stuff from the supermarket that goes bad in a week. Now I realize that is rancid processed milk and totally unnatural. I was just thinking about fermentation and wondering if adding a small amount of cultured raw milk would give it a shot in the arm.

 

[jaykush]

When fermenting leaves (or any making any organic tea for that matter) would it help to inoculate with sour (not rancid) raw milk?

you can make the homemade lacto bacillus culture to add, theres a thread here.

raw milk is cool, i like how it turns to "cheese" all by itself. shows that no one invented cheese, someone just found it.

I have no test plants and only one lady in a scrog. So any harm to her for unnecessary reason would be devastating.

if your really paranoid, you can just use it on some plants outside, preferably annuals of some kind. i always test new plant extracts on ornamental non cannabis plants, veggies, then cannabis.