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[you.no.che.858]

Thanks for clearing things up Celcius. I could tell HydroJen does not know what she's talking about.

I took your advice and looked for FLIR videos. Didn't find much but I did find a video of a guy who shoots himself in the face with a shotgun and blows his brains everywhere... pretty gnarly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3rpbqWPrZk&feature=related

 

[HydroJen]

Yes, I generalize, but in my defense, I was responding to the question, "why don't commercial growers grow more sativa strains" which is a gross generalization in itself.

When choosing strains for a commercial space, one of my criteria is must finish in 60. I got a schedule to keep. Im not counting KWH, im counting man hours which is more expensive and limited. If it is a haze or Diesel or Casey jones or such, I probably don't have time.

 

[Durdy]

no time jen? Doesn't sound very fair to the lovely other strains that go over 60 days, but to each is own right?

 

[TruthOrLie]

I have an infrared scrambler.

 

[Devilboy]

if yall read hydrojen was making a joke about the scramblers.. and sativas do take longer flowering yes this is true and yes also true they take less veg all that is true if ur looking for a charle brown xmas tree looking grow to get a proper yeild from a sativa u will need just as long in veg as a indica my 2 main crops are sour d and purple kush so yes i know what im saying and when your looking at a larger grow u need to max crops per year and if your paying huge pg&e bills rent and other costs that come with a large grow u cant just run sativas and make the same kinda cash as u can from a indica..
and look what is on the top shelf at all the damm clubs its {a puple strian} most people want that couch lock so growers who want to sell what they grew grow what is in demand

one way that i have been able to keep growing sativas is i do all my vegging in a seperate area so i can have my flower room always going wich means pull the purps and let the sd keep going while the next round of purp is started its the only way to do this in a cost saving way and like i said if more people were interested in sativas and the price of them would rise many grower s would be doing much more sativa strains

and remember what the difference is in the 2
sativa for those with depression and need a uplift
indica for those suffering from chronic pain unable to eat etc
so u see why there is more of a demand for indicas the main people prop 215 was intended for are people who benefit more from a indica im sorry you prefer sativas and cant find them more but the easyest way around this is to start a lil garden for your self

 

[growshopfrank]

if yall read hydrojen was making a joke about the scramblers.. and sativas do take longer flowering yes this is true and yes also true they take less veg all that is true if ur looking for a charle brown xmas tree looking grow to get a proper yeild from a sativa u will need just as long in veg as a indica my 2 main crops are sour d and purple kush so yes i know what im saying and when your looking at a larger grow u need to max crops per year and if your paying huge pg&e bills rent and other costs that come with a large grow u cant just run sativas and make the same kinda cash as u can from a indica..
and look what is on the top shelf at all the damm clubs its {a puple strian} most people want that couch lock so growers who want to sell what they grew grow what is in demand


and remember what the difference is in the 2
sativa for those with depression and need a uplift
indica for those suffering from chronic pain unable to eat etc
so u see why there is more of a demand for indicas the main people prop 215 was intended for are people who benefit more from a indica im sorry you prefer sativas and cant find them more but the easyest way around this is to start a lil garden for your self

In defense of most of the younger members I don't think they have any experience with true sativa strains just because they weren't around and smoking back when all we smoked was imported. It makes my head hurt when I think about the pounds of beans I threw away back when an OZ had 5 to 8 sometimes more grams of seed.

 

[Mr Celsius]

I forgot that every prop 215's main and almost always most sold strain in clubs is a sativa by the name of OG Kush that takes 70 days... damn all those commercial guys are retarded for getting 3.6-4k per lb...



My suggestion to anybody who wants it: If you aren't in the pot trade, don't talk like you are...

 

[usda101]

BOOOOOOOOOOOO... haters suck and jelous people too.

wish i lived where you guys live at 4k a pound. for crazy beautiful weed its around 2500-3000 max, and thats to dealers who want crazy bag appeal weed who dont mind paying more because they sell quarters and eights. wholesale in quebec is anywhere from 1100 for m39, to 2000 for nice shit. alot of people grow here and the market is flooded all the time. unless you grow something special and crazy nice youll probly be dissapointed with the price you get at the end..

even with a 15lb harvest youll make maybe 25k, and thats before everything else..

like many people said. the day you have nothing youll glady smoke the warehouse weed. so STFU unless you have something nice to say.


YEAAAAAAAAYYY krunch keep on stacking those p's

WOW , I could get 75 grand off the 15lbs without breaking a sweat.

 

[kushking20]

Great news that ur back up and runnin krunchbubble

 

[Devilboy]

I forgot that every prop 215's main and almost always most sold strain in clubs is a sativa by the name of OG Kush that takes 70 days... damn all those commercial guys are retarded for getting 3.6-4k per lb...



My suggestion to anybody who wants it: If you aren't in the pot trade, don't talk like you are...

did you bump your fukin head OG KUSH a SATIVA????? here is from a major seed companys desciption of og kush

OG Kush
[DNA Genetics]

Indica
Origins - Los Angeles Kush x SFV strain
Flowering - 57-60 days
Harvest - Mid September


The "Original Gangster" OG Kush comes from the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles
and is considered to be the strain that put Southern California buds on par with the flowers coming from up North.
Developed over three generations and years of stabilizing as well as developing the perfect fertilizer / food for this parrticular strain,
resulted in a phenomenal kush, said to be the strongest indica today.

The OG Kush was formally a clone only strain. She stretches in veg but seems to fill herself out in flower.
She has smaller nugs that you can get a good yield from if you supercrop her while she's growing.
OG Kush prefers to be grown indoors in a hydroponic setup.

OG Kush, when properly grown, has the highest THC content of all kushes and is sometimes so strong,
it "makes your teeth hurt" after you smoke a bowl. When smoked, it feels like a wake-up shot to the head,
not unlike an espresso, which makes this smoke perfect as a pick-me-up during a long day of physical labor. Having said this,
it is not recommended to smoke OG Kush before bed, as it is known to speed up the heart rate and keep the user awake.

There is also another well known OG lineage that was developed in Northern California, and this story went something like this..
A guy - we'll call him KushDawg for the sake of this story - living somewhere on the Northern California Pacific Coast
was growing the original cut from San Fernando Valley, the birthplace of most herb carrying the "OG" label. One evening,
KushDawg was hanging out at a local bar when another chap also sitting at the bar offered him a bowl of some very special weed.
Intrigued, KushDawg accepted the offer. Once the chap opened the bag and the dank, pungent OG aroma lifted into the air,
KushDawg knew immediately, unbeknownst to the chap, that this was in fact his own herb. As they toked the glorious herb,
the chap rendered his own opinion as to the origin of the herb, saying that it was so great because it was "Mountain Grown."
KushDawg corrected the chap, "Naw man, this stuff is 'Ocean Grown,'" meaning that the herb was actually grown indoors
on the Pacific Coast.


a lil sujestion people who dont know shit about canibis shouldnt open there fukin mouths and leave the talking to those of us who been in this since b4 you were in diapers

ps: any kush strain is a indica unless crossed with a sativa then u will have a indica/sativa cross at best no true kush will be a pure sativa ever so maybe next time u wanna talk shit do a lil homework first

 

[you.no.che.858]

did you bump your fukin head OG KUSH a SATIVA????? here is from a major seed companys desciption of og kush

OG Kush
[DNA Genetics]

Indica
Origins - Los Angeles Kush x SFV strain
Flowering - 57-60 days
Harvest - Mid September


The "Original Gangster" OG Kush comes from the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles
and is considered to be the strain that put Southern California buds on par with the flowers coming from up North.
Developed over three generations and years of stabilizing as well as developing the perfect fertilizer / food for this parrticular strain,
resulted in a phenomenal kush, said to be the strongest indica today.

The OG Kush was formally a clone only strain. She stretches in veg but seems to fill herself out in flower.
She has smaller nugs that you can get a good yield from if you supercrop her while she's growing.
OG Kush prefers to be grown indoors in a hydroponic setup.

OG Kush, when properly grown, has the highest THC content of all kushes and is sometimes so strong,
it "makes your teeth hurt" after you smoke a bowl. When smoked, it feels like a wake-up shot to the head,
not unlike an espresso, which makes this smoke perfect as a pick-me-up during a long day of physical labor. Having said this,
it is not recommended to smoke OG Kush before bed, as it is known to speed up the heart rate and keep the user awake.

There is also another well known OG lineage that was developed in Northern California, and this story went something like this..
A guy - we'll call him KushDawg for the sake of this story - living somewhere on the Northern California Pacific Coast
was growing the original cut from San Fernando Valley, the birthplace of most herb carrying the "OG" label. One evening,
KushDawg was hanging out at a local bar when another chap also sitting at the bar offered him a bowl of some very special weed.
Intrigued, KushDawg accepted the offer. Once the chap opened the bag and the dank, pungent OG aroma lifted into the air,
KushDawg knew immediately, unbeknownst to the chap, that this was in fact his own herb. As they toked the glorious herb,
the chap rendered his own opinion as to the origin of the herb, saying that it was so great because it was "Mountain Grown."
KushDawg corrected the chap, "Naw man, this stuff is 'Ocean Grown,'" meaning that the herb was actually grown indoors
on the Pacific Coast.


a lil sujestion people who dont know shit about canibis shouldnt open there fukin mouths and leave the talking to those of us who been in this since b4 you were in diapers

ps: any kush strain is a indica unless crossed with a sativa then u will have a indica/sativa cross at best no true kush will be a pure sativa ever so maybe next time u wanna talk shit do a lil homework first

Actually Celsius is correct, you are wrong.

OG Kush = Sativa Dominant it is a cross of three strains and has no actual kush in it.

Lineage = ChemDawg x [ Lemon Thai x Old World Paki Kush]

OG Stands for Ocean Grown not Organically grown or Original Gangster.....

It was a high altitude plant that was brought down and grown at ocean level (nor cal Mendo Coast) and dubbed the name Ocean Grown Kush A.K.A OG kush.

"In late '93 John from Grass Valley Ca. got the Chem Dog cut. He shared it with me, Jerry(cowboy) from Dibble Creek Ca. and Harold(Putz) from Sunset Beach Ca. Putz had a male he called the secret ingredient. It was a cross of Lemon Thai and an Old World Paki Kush. Putz bred the secret ingredient to the Chem Dog. The buds that came out of this cross were going around L.A. county in '95. Someone told Putz that Kush must be so good because it was mountain grown. Putz laughed and told him "this Kush is Ocean Grown Kush bro". The tag stuck and it became known as OG Kush. In the spring of '96 Putz married a girl from New Zealand. Before moving there he sent cuts of his OG to me and Bob(beans) in Salinas Ca. He gave all his P1 stock and all the remaining seed he had to ****(mad dog) from Downey Ca. In late '96 **** sold some seed to some guys in the Valley. That's where the San Fernando Valley cut of OG comes from. It's like the Original only more sat in pheno type. **** sold a cut of the original to a guy in Orange county and that cut is called Larry today. It's still around Orange county. **** sent one other cut of the original OG to a breeder in Europe. As far as I know he never let anyone else have it.
Jerry bred his Chem Dog cut to a Humboldt county indica boy. This was the beginning of his cubing proccess. At BX3 he got a pheno that had all the smell, taste and kick of the Chem Dog, but in a pure indica pheno. Jerry gave this plant to Bob. It became known as the West Coast Dog.
Bob bred this plant to my Old World Kush male. He took a male from that cross and bred it to the OG cut Putz had sent him. This is what made the original Bubba Kush."

It is very hard to get the original genetics as it is kept under lock and key by its growers to keep its value and purity high

 

[i.love.scotch]

Boooooooooo! Warehouse Weed!

Yah I'd say booooooo, that shit has mites by the look of it

 

[humble1]

LOL @ trusting anything that comes from the mouths or keyboards of those DNA boys.
Seriously, though, let's not make this another genetic origin thread where none of the posters have first hand knowledge.
Goooooo krunch!!!
Happy Turkey Day!

 

[TruthOrLie]

Ocean Grown?

Original Gangsta?

I always thought it was that good ol' Oregon Gold that made its way down to Cali and revolutionized the scene.

Makes your teeth hurt? Had to laugh out loud at that one.

 

[powerrobbie]

Where do you see mites in that picture buddy....

 

[Yes4Prop215]

purples are still real popular in the bay area.....every club i go to has purple strains in their top shelf. my last trip to HHC they must have had 7 or 8 different purples, out of their 6 top shelf half were purples. at other clubs they always have some granddaddy or something purple.

ive taken OG kush at 55 days with good effect...but yea the 70 day was definately better. alot of people think shes a full indica because she has a really strong high. totallly different than anything from the haze family. also gotta laugh at the retarded stories about OG kush being "original gangster". i was reading the cannabible last night and he was saying the same bullshit. i havent heard about ocean grown...we always thought OG stood for original pre-98 kush that was mostly oldschool chemdawg.

those dont really look like mites to me, more like little dust or thc shards..mites are usually larger brighter and more densly populated...

 

[TruthOrLie]

it looks ready at day 55 but its not amber til at least 66

 

[i.love.scotch]

I could definitely be wrong, but it looks like mites to me because there are lots of of suspended particles, seemingly on some kind of webbing

 

[stony2]

on the stem near the bottom. you can recognize these little, actually a little translucent, white, orange and black spots crawling on it. from the colors alone one can be pretty sure that's spider mites.. they always come in different colors

still, whatever.. i dont mind smoking a few spidermites. as long as it kills them.

 

[krunchbubble]

I could definitely be wrong, but it looks like mites to me because there are lots of of suspended particles, seemingly on some kind of webbing

on the stem near the bottom. you can recognize these little, actually a little translucent, white, orange and black spots crawling on it. from the colors alone one can be pretty sure that's spider mites.. they always come in different colors

still, whatever.. i dont mind smoking a few spidermites. as long as it kills them.

Yah I'd say booooooo, that shit has mites by the look of it

you guys haven't a clue what your talking about.......

zero mites, mildew or any pathogens of any kind........