New England Growers and Medical Users

[emerald city]

did you check the msds or read the product label?
eagle20ew is catagorized as a hazardous chemical. It is known to cause reproductive and developmental toxicity and is a suspected endocrine disruptor. At least one of the ingredients is a known carcingon. it can cause lesions, ulcerations and eye damage upon contact and is known to effect the liver, testes, adrenal gland, kidney, thyroid, central nervous system, lungs, and urinary tract. you cant breathe the vapors and it says you should call poison control if you come in contact with this product.

It is highly toxic to aquatic organisms, toxic to birds, and also kills honeybees and fish.

the label clearly states: "do not use treated plant material for food and feed"
it specifies that sunflowers, maple and walnut trees that have been sprayed can not be used in food production of any kind, ever. though it says it can be sprayed in orchards it does not say that the fruits of the orchard can then be eaten, just "do not use treated plant material for food and feed"

even if the orchard fruits were safe to eat(which it sounds like they are not), the fact that some plants are rendered completely un-ingestible after spraying makes me think we should at least know how it specifically interacts with cannabis before we use and ingest it.

"eagle 20EW is a locally systemic fungicide having protectant and curative properties that will translocate to new growth" it is not staying contained specifically to the vegetative matter that was sprayed. new growth will contain the systemic fungicide.

just because the product stops working after 30 days does not mean it is out of the plants system.

i know i dont want to smoke something thats known to not be safe to touch or eat.

this product is a nasty fungicide floating in cancerous paint thinner(naphthalene). im all set.

also, with the known hormonal influence of this product, should breeders really be using it at all?? phyto hormones are almost identical to human hormones, I would be worried about genetic damage to my seedline.

You speak the truth and make a case for ALL toxic chemicals we have and use for various projects in our lives.From food right on down the line...I cant see rolling back time/[progress] to only use materials that are found in the naturaly occuring enviroment...In both the agricultural and medicinal worlds we use small ammounts of what might be considered poisons[if used in larger doses]to get a positive effect...Im not the sharpest tool in the shed but have to believe the old slogan better living threw chemistry,has some merit......
One small example i have knowledge about,apple trees..To grow apples [or fruit in general] one must use a certain ammount of chemical to produce a blemish free apple a consumer will buy...From aprox april 15th most commercial trees are sprayed 1x every 7 days with a combo bug/fungicide..When flowers emerge spraying stops until apple set[no spraying of bees]then spraying resumes on a 10 day basis until picking....My personal apple trees i dont spray are hit or miss being able to pick one of a tree to eat without running into some type of bug/worm...People will not pay for that type of product on average......Let go to clones,I would much rather buy a cutting that came from a mother plant that haD been sprayed with eagle then to find a PM surprize a month down the road that has infected a whole room/ months worth of time/effort...Infecting my future projects,clone shared and pm on my dried bud.....Hard to decide which are the lesser of 2 evils.
My final thought is to be mindfull of ALL potential chemical dangers we come in contact with in our daily lifes.....Minimize the risk and atleast make an informed choice on what your putting in your body......
I think i agree[in theory] with your statements..BUT.Practical application will be the problem..This come from a guy[me] who was poisoned by drinking tainted spring water[major named brand],a product that is considered a natural pure maine commodity that made me sick and gave me memory issues for months.... Something to think about fer sure..
Drive safe and have a good day

 

[Guest3498]

couldn't agree more..........some people dont mind poisoning the enviroment or their patients.........As long as the yeild is'nt affected by pm or pests and i dont buy for a second that they just dont know how harmfull it is....I do believe however ,that they just dont care........as long as yeilds are good......

This guy cracks me up

 

[Ottoman]

couldn't agree more..........some people dont mind poisoning the enviroment or their patients.........As long as the yeild is'nt affected by pm or pests and i dont buy for a second that they just dont know how harmfull it is....I do believe however ,that they just dont care........as long as yeilds are good......

HAHAHAH, coming from a dude that has been infested with mites and probably has been spraying the shit out of them with crazy chemicals, HAHAHAHAHAH

You just wish your garden could be half of what VADO's is dude you are such a clown bro and a even bigger joke. BTW i enjoy your million buds shots of the same plants that you post everyday, i love watching day by day growth, its about as much fun as watching paint dry.

 

[Guest3498]

Funny thing is, I can't tell if his plants are all burned up from using organocide wrong or from overferting... Then again, we are talking about a guy who has literally begged for cuts in the ma/ct/ri thread, literally attempted to cover the burnt tips up with green splotches in microsoft paint, and literally tried to pass off cuts with webbing on them to other respectable members while denying that he has spider mites....

btw, KW, pretty sure anything worth a damn in your garden has touched floramite....

 

[KarmasWheele]

HAHAHAH, coming from a dude that has been infested with mites and probably has been spraying the shit out of them with crazy chemicals, HAHAHAHAHAH

You just wish your garden could be half of what VADO's is dude you are such a clown bro and a even bigger joke. BTW i enjoy your million buds shots of the same plants that you post everyday, i love watching day by day growth, its about as much fun as watching paint dry.

neem, organicide and no pest strips.........As far as the rest.....
dont watch then idiot...........And you should talk you pig.....the 1st time I ever had a mite was 1 day after I met you coincidence ? I think not...........I think it's kinda funny how you 2 allways get on each others jock then try to instigate trouble with me.........jellous children.......

 

[Guest3498]

Jealous? Of what?

 

[KarmasWheele]

Funny thing is, I can't tell if his plants are all burned up from using organocide wrong or from overferting... Then again, we are talking about a guy who has literally begged for cuts in the ma/ct/ri thread, literally attempted to cover the burnt tips up with green splotches in microsoft paint, and literally tried to pass off cuts with webbing on them to other respectable members while denying that he has spider mites....

btw, KW, pretty sure anything worth a damn in your garden has touched floramite....

what you see is plants getting flushed properly,something you chemical cash cropers dont know a thing about......And you can twist what ever words of mine you want too I never begged for a damn thing......Your pissed cause I told you I didn't want your fake ass cuts that you offered because I_ knew you were a psycopath with bad energy.....get over it get over yourself your not the big dog you think you are......get your little boy ego in check and stop polluting a good thread with your hate........And the threats through pm..........real class there............

 

[Ottoman]

HAHAHAHAHAHA, yeah right those joints we smoked must of had mites flying off them! Plus you remember all those shots of huge cola's covered in webs right??? HAHAHHA. Remember how good those mites were we smoked they gave you a panic attack and you acted like a weirdo in front of me so I left, then you apologized and told me you loved they stuff after in a PM. You're a unstable old dude that acts and has the mentality of a high school/college student, it easy to tell not only by the way you lived but how you act.

I won't even go into how the buds you traded with me were so-so, picked early and seem like they were dried for 12 hours under a heat lamp of something, sounds like someone doesnt care about what they hook their patients up with they just care about getting the money quicker.


I hope one day you will eventually grow into a man, cause you're nothing but an afraid lost little boy. As far as the pig comment come say that shit to my face i don't appreciate people who related me to LEO. I hate those fuckers more than I hate you. Call me a pig to my face, i'll meet you anytime anywhere by my self big mouth. I already know you won't cause like i said before your alone afraid lost little boy.

 

[Guest3498]

That's not from a flush, they are burnt. This is what a properly flushed plant looks like:

And you ARE growing my "fake ass cuts".

 

[Ganja D]

You guys should chill,or explain your beef? No need to be all negative,although I do like fist fighting to settle differences in real life. But this ain't real life and most people here are computer nerds.
Why the hostility?
As far a me, today is our last day of trimming our outdoor crop. Thank god!!
Tomorrow my girl and our trimmers and I will celebrate thanksgiving and watch the PAT'S!!!
Happy thanksgiving New England.
Peace from the wrong coast.

 

[emerald city]

When i left earlyer i thought we where having an adult conversation about opinions.Things have seemed to digress in the last few hours...Appears you guys must know each other offline,the problem occured offline so why not air you differances offline also.The newengland thread is a nice place to hang without ongoing hostility.
Please return to your neautral side of the sandbox and resume playing.....The moon was over yesterday....my humble 2c.....E/C

 

[FatBlunt420]

i find it all really funny, and dont care.
but ganjaD and EC do have good points.

its thanksgiving tomorrow... lets just hope we all have some killer homegrown buds to smoke, and get pumped for some turkey dinners!!!

 

[KarmasWheele]

hell i couldn't agree more fb.....but I didn't start it and when I just ignore them they follow me around so i had to defend myself.......

 

[emerald city]

hard to bitch when your smoking a fatty.
Happy thanksgiving im done.

 

[rasputin]

KW, let's not pretend like you don't have a history of putting your foot in your mouth with your snide remarks and thinly veiled insults. It's comical that you think anyone's following you around when you're in the NE thread. lol Paranoid much?

Own up to it and move on. That'd be the mature thing to do.

Happy Turker Day, NE-ers. Stay warm, getting a little chilly out there.

Smoking some Sour Larry, courtesy of one of the finest NE growers!

 

[KarmasWheele]

ras good to see you got a hold of some larry mite free, regaurdless of what you believe I really did only want to try to hook you up......passing mites was not the intention......I respect you because you speak from the heart.even if I dont like it.I wont denigh it.......In fact after our thing went sour I decided to just stop trading and trying to be friends with people here....my intentions are allways good but something allways gets fucked up.......the road to hell is paved with good intentions if you want to put it into a cliche.....so really I just want to post my pics for those that enjoy them and stay outta the whole circle..........Like ottodick said Im too old and too unstable, to be running around with a bunch of kids........But because I love to grow pot and am from new england I will proudly post my pic's here and will not be run out by a couple of shit talking ego driven punks........

 

[Ottoman]

KW, plain and simple your are not a good person and I don't like how you conduct yourself especially online. I feel you seriously have some issues mentally or emotionally and to feel better about yourself you come online where no one knows you and act like a total dick just to feel better about yourself, we all know you start shit with your little comments you can afford to keep to yourself, than when someone calls you out, you try to act like the good guy. Well you know what i seen it one to many times and people who know me here know I am a respectful person and never starts shit, I mean I haven't even been around the last 4 months and i come back just to see you pulling the same shit, this is why I am calling you out. Go back to your x-box live and play with your new friends you unstable freak.

BTW at least i don't look like an actual pig in real life, I realize now why you had trash all over your place. Don't leave me neg rep again unless you got a place and time.

P.S. whatever happened to your big announcement of moving to europe to become the next big breeder, HAHAHAHAHAH, New England would be better off without you.

 

[Ottoman]

Im done guys and wont reply anymore.

 

[KarmasWheele]

otto what gives you the right to judge what is and is not a "good person"? I dont judge anyone simply call them like I see them and your a ego driven punk......with a potty mouth and bad grammar.......and it's ps3 bitch.........and you know where it is.So keep your childish threats to yourself toughguy.......now I know why it's been so peacefull the last few months.......

 

[jgrow]

Anyone in New England want to direct me to some medical quality cuts, im in need for a patient and have nothing that fits the bill. Arthritis and joint pain are the biggest issues with this patient. This is the last of my dying hope.