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InvisibleEmpire
I'm sorry couldn't help it!
A.) You are entertained easily
B.) He's not worth even responding to
A.) You are entertained easily
B.) He's not worth even responding to
Incognegro
Member
Yes, I use the term friend dearly...
You sound like you sorta got a soft spot for the dude.... (no homo directive intended)... you've gotta make a decision dude...
smoke with him...and chalk it up..
smoke with him...bring it up that he needs to chip in from now on, since you no longer grow, you've gotta pay for it now (I've said this a couple times)
don't smoke with him...
OR
Do like Panama said...just kill him
Incognegro
Member
Lol...just fun and games...at least from me....i DID need a laugh, sorry it was at your expense...
My ignore list is quite loooong...too many "I'm holier than thou, because I've got more posts than you!", or "I'm a better grower, because I've got 5 grows in my sig, and you don't!" fuckers...
Sorry....
Well based on this he's providing you with a huge service that helps protect your security and brings you profit. I would say just keep things as they are but maybe learn to tone it down a bit with phrases like.
"Not right now, I got some stuff I got to do in a little bit and I want to keep my head clear."
"Some other time, I'm trying to cut back to lower my tolerance."
"Sorry, I can't do it this time, the stash is getting low and I need to sell what I have left to make rent?"
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OZZ
Only read the first page and skimmed the rest but I'll offer my input. First mistake was telling a friend you grow. This puts you in a shit position because "cutting" him off isn't an option. You're looking for advice as to what to do? FUCKIN MAN UP! Either he is worthwhile to have around as a friend or he isn't. If he isn't, cut him off in a way to protect your own ass. I am not growing (well, flowering) at the moment, and when I did I had no problems smoking with people. Weed bought on the street is extremely expensive and smoking with yourself gets very boring. The catch is, it also gets boring with the same person over time. Especially if you harbor resentment towards this person. I understand where others are coming from when they say "what is the problem", but you are the judge as to whether or not this person is a blatant mooch USING you. Who the fuck likes to get used? NO ONE.
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InvisibleEmpire
First I've already explained how I could get out of the situation if it required (this is what you missed)...read my back posts....man up? what are you talking about? i simply asked a question on if you, as a smoker, would ask a friend or acquaintance for compensation if you consistently blaze them out...and they didnt reciprocate in any way..
He befriended me before he knew i smoked, before he knew i grew. He THOUGHT i smoked because we worked at the same job together and he saw me go out on lunch breaks and said he swore he saw smoke pour out of my truck when i opened the door..lmao but at any rate he didn't find out i grew till months later...we both quit that job...maybe i sounded a bit harsh, i think he's the type of person to not necessarily take advantage of someone but rather take advantage of the situation....in his mind i see it like he knows i grow, he has direct access to good product and because we're 'friends' he feels that because he buys weed off me that i'm obligated to smoke him out....i have been, i just began to question things when he has never truly reciprocated...
OH yeah...I wanted to post this before but I was so stoned I forgot the thought...
Here's another thing...when he knew that i smoked, not grew, he acted a certain way. after he knew i grew ALL OF A SUDDEN he's this 'baller weed smoker' who smokes the top notch weed out there...for example....most of the time i knew him he would just buy middies and even asked me to get him some at times...but after i started bringing in product all of a sudden he's smoking "grape ape", "grandaddypurp", "sour diesel", etc. The kicker to this is he smokes this with his friends/cousins and I'm never invited. He does live 45 minutes away and we try to avoid driving that far unless it's worthwhile and he knows for damn sure i'd roll out there if he had access to a decent amount of chronic we could smoke....
then he has the audacity to call me and be like "yeah man, i liked your rhino and widow but i smoked some stuff today that was nuts man, he called it *insert popular strain name* but he wants 100 an 8th and only smoked 1 blunt with me"....then that eliminates any chance of me asking "oh, can i get some?!" or "can you match me?"
it's a difficult situation, he's a nice guy over all, funny, someone cool to hang out with, play games, poker, go to the casino, stupid shit like that but would i trust him with my LIFE? no...and until he proves that, i'm very skeptical which is why i asked the questions i did.
He's an associate not a friend, if he was a friend you would of sorted it instantly with him & he wouldnt give a fk, thats why you feel this way, you want to be friends with him, hang out with him etc, does'nt put you on best freind terms does it? thats different & you are looking at it like he's a close buddy, but he aint, throw the cards on the table bro, tell him how you feel, be nice, if he's your mate he'll welcome your sugestion with open arms, if he doesnt you know the real reason why the guy wants to know you. if he sells for you the guy works for you, gotta look after your employee's, give him less or put your prices up to cover the cost, he'll think twice then man! Box Clever! 
There are some peeps I refer to as "Gimmies"
give me a beer, give me a joint, gimme, gimme, gimme....
They don't load bowls or buy beers. - or when they do - they make a big deal out of it.
The also don't get invited to the good parties.
After awhile - they just don't get invited.
They usually have a personal stash; operative word - personal
They obvisiously hate running low as much as I do, but would they ever learn to grow???? naaaaaaaaa.
Then there are people that don't have money for that "snob stuff". There, but by the grace of God, go I.
One group is good peeps, the other, - welll - you know.
give me a beer, give me a joint, gimme, gimme, gimme....
They don't load bowls or buy beers. - or when they do - they make a big deal out of it.
The also don't get invited to the good parties.
After awhile - they just don't get invited.
They usually have a personal stash; operative word - personal
They obvisiously hate running low as much as I do, but would they ever learn to grow???? naaaaaaaaa.
Then there are people that don't have money for that "snob stuff". There, but by the grace of God, go I.
One group is good peeps, the other, - welll - you know.
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OZZ
I didn't mean man up in a bad, insulting way. If you consider him your friend you are closer to him than us and that might alter your perspective. From what you've given us he might be a good guy without bad intent. In my mind he probably has the outlook of you're growing it, not paying for it, therefore it is free to you and as such there isn't a problem mooching. But he is definitely wrong in this and you need to step up and let him know. If he is someone worth keeping around he will understand this 100% and there won't be any awkwardness. Having a steady supplier in you, a friend to talk to in you, and someone who occasionally smokes him up and/or gives him good deals is the favor and it should be all he needs to appreciate you and give you something in return (if he is a decent person). The thing is, there aren't many of these around. You could spend years considering someone that caliber and be VERY wrong. It's tough. I know the type though.
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although many of you are right i think i'm using the term friend too loosely...i say friend but a lot of times mean acquaintance, i'd call an associate someone i only do business with.
i've already figured out what i'm going to do, basically stop blazing with him and basically lay it out to him (nicely) that i was just trying to be nice and share but going forward he's gotta either match me with what he buys off of me or bring some good good to the table....which i doubt, because he's buying weed with unemployment money currently... but maybe i need to be more specific for the rest of the responses:
Do you, as a smoker/grower, expect some sort of reciprocation or financial compensation when you smoke with friend(s) consistently? What about acquaintances?
i've already figured out what i'm going to do, basically stop blazing with him and basically lay it out to him (nicely) that i was just trying to be nice and share but going forward he's gotta either match me with what he buys off of me or bring some good good to the table....which i doubt, because he's buying weed with unemployment money currently... but maybe i need to be more specific for the rest of the responses:
Do you, as a smoker/grower, expect some sort of reciprocation or financial compensation when you smoke with friend(s) consistently? What about acquaintances?
Every morning just before breakfast,
I don't want no coffee or tea
Just me and my good buddy Wiser,
that's all I ever need
'Cause I drink alone, yeah,
:friends:
I don't want no coffee or tea
Just me and my good buddy Wiser,
that's all I ever need
'Cause I drink alone, yeah,
:friends:
Acotaco
Member
I got friends like that on unemployment makes twice as muh as me onthat then I do at my 35 hour a week job and going to school and I always buy good and when we hang he always smokes it and never bring any and he even grows and even when he harvests doesn't smoke with us ( friends who smoke him up) it's jus how some people are and might not even notice they do it. So I knindA know what ur sayin compensation would be nice sometimes. Not sayin ithink I joule be payed cuz I'd rather smoke with friends but when they make so much more then me and grows why am I the one who's go to smoke him up becasue he'd rather drink then buy good bud for himself. And then complains bout not having money. Bah sorry F'in rant.
The End Is Near
Member
Glad you made up your mind on what to do. I've been in the same situation, it's best to end that sort of thing early, as I wish I did. If I were you I wouldn't care if I never saw him again. Remember, he never invites you for a smoke and leaves you (un)high and dry when you run out. I don't mind hanging with people "only" when there's weed involved but what you have is a bad case of mooching.
I know you don't want to resort to smoking leaf or mexibrick because you wanted to "be cool" with some mooch.
I know you don't want to resort to smoking leaf or mexibrick because you wanted to "be cool" with some mooch.
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If you stop smoking him up, I think it would be best to stop selling to him as well. Tell him you are out of the game and he's welcome to turn you on to anything nice he gets in the future.
Unless you need his bidness.........
lw
Unless you need his bidness.........
lw
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And to answer your bolded question Empire, I usually do expect something in return. I don't advertise what I do, I will just make it clear I have something good and can get it at a good price. That is enough in my opinion. If they are GOOD friends, I don't have a problem inviting them over for nothing, because I enjoy the social interaction and the green is meant to be shared amongst brothers/sisters. To a point.
Smoking people out is like giving money to the homeless.
You can't expect anything back man.
And don't keep giving it out to the same folks.
You can't expect anything back man.
And don't keep giving it out to the same folks.
Ok I didn't read the whole thread, but here's how I would handle it, very peaceful and cool:
A) Do business first,. When he arrives, say, ok, business before pleasure. Get him his sack and get his $$.
B) Say "hey wanna match me a blunt?" If he says no, then say ok, well I got other shit to do anyway man, see you later. And escort him out.
Easy peasy. Do this a few times and he will get used to the new pattern. Sometimes you need to coach the n00bs with some gentle etiquette lessons.
A) Do business first,. When he arrives, say, ok, business before pleasure. Get him his sack and get his $$.
B) Say "hey wanna match me a blunt?" If he says no, then say ok, well I got other shit to do anyway man, see you later. And escort him out.
Easy peasy. Do this a few times and he will get used to the new pattern. Sometimes you need to coach the n00bs with some gentle etiquette lessons.
Do you, as a smoker/grower, expect some sort of reciprocation or financial compensation when you smoke with friend(s) consistently? What about acquaintances?
stop expecting things,in return for your good deeds.karma ,man if you let it go ,who knows mabey hell get a job and start buying more ya just never know.
but expecting some sort of reward has already made you feel mad/sad or hateful/resentment, hence the reason for this thread and its only gonna hurt/sadden you in the end.
stop expecting things,in return for your good deeds.karma ,man if you let it go ,who knows mabey hell get a job and start buying more ya just never know.
but expecting some sort of reward has already made you feel mad/sad or hateful/resentment, hence the reason for this thread and its only gonna hurt/sadden you in the end.
