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stratmandu
Keep the gun. Grow somewhere else.
It's worse then that, once you catch a felony conviction, even if it didn't involve guns or violence, you lose your 2nd Amendment rights for life, you're not even legally allowed to buy a crossbow pistol.
If you want to keep a small durable gun like a baby glock or something on site there is a good option to hide it in the bottom of a fishtank under the gravel. This is easily retrieved by just reaching down into the tank in an emergency situation and grabbing it from under the small rocks. Use a darker color gravel and make sure there is enough to cover it all completely and maybe put some decorations over it like the little pieces of plastic kelp or a little treasure chest with the bubbles coming out of it or something you get the idea.
The best way to seal it and protect it and be totally waterproof is in one of those thick moisture proof seal-a-meal bags using the sealer on the vacuum machine, just don't suck all the air out because it makes a vacuum that would suck water in possibly if it sprang a leak you can just push out 90% of the air or so with your hands. A small pair of scissors kept nearby or even a pair of keys could get it opened and accessible to use in self defense in a matter of seconds if you plan it out well. You could also put a little "v" notch on one end where the larger piece of sealed plastic edge is to be able to just rip it open easily upon retrieval much like a little condom package. This way you can protect yourself!
The best way to seal it and protect it and be totally waterproof is in one of those thick moisture proof seal-a-meal bags using the sealer on the vacuum machine, just don't suck all the air out because it makes a vacuum that would suck water in possibly if it sprang a leak you can just push out 90% of the air or so with your hands. A small pair of scissors kept nearby or even a pair of keys could get it opened and accessible to use in self defense in a matter of seconds if you plan it out well. You could also put a little "v" notch on one end where the larger piece of sealed plastic edge is to be able to just rip it open easily upon retrieval much like a little condom package. This way you can protect yourself!
If you plan on putting money in any of those hiding spots make sure you have it vacuum sealed or you could run into problems. I forgot what they said but I believe most money in circulation in the US is tainted with drugs. Suck to have 25 grand hidden for a lawyer and it gets taken cause a drug dog gets the scent of coke off the money.
coconutree
Member
if you had to hide it INSIDE the house, if it absolutey had to be inside, put it under the foorboards under the carpet in someroom, wrapped to fuck, and wrapped to fuck again
however if u can do it outside do it somewhere in the wild where u know EXACTLY where u put it, and that no-one is going to find or inadvertandly disturb
however if u can do it outside do it somewhere in the wild where u know EXACTLY where u put it, and that no-one is going to find or inadvertandly disturb
fatcat0491
Member
Also Floor safe under rug.
A few years in prison
Get caught and see how many years you actually get. You'd be lucky to get a manslaughter or negligent homicide charge with an amazing lawyer. Most likely you will get a felony murder charge for using a firearm in the furtherance of a felony.
Danks2005, i'd completely agree with you if we weren't talking about the fact that you are using a gun to protect your business that is still 100% illegal on the federal level.
There are trade offs in life, being in the cannabis industry in the US is not the safest occupation choice. If you wanna be safe, get out of the industry and have all the guns you want and chances are you'll never have to use one.
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InvisibleEmpire
A few years in prison
Get caught and see how many years you actually get. You'd be lucky to get a manslaughter or negligent homicide charge with an amazing lawyer. Most likely you will get a felony murder charge for using a firearm in the furtherance of a felony.
Danks2005, i'd completely agree with you if we weren't talking about the fact that you are using a gun to protect your business that is still 100% illegal on the federal level.
There are trade offs in life, being in the cannabis industry in the US is not the safest occupation choice. If you wanna be safe, get out of the industry and have all the guns you want and chances are you'll never have to use one.
Actually unless you are a lawyer with practice defending or prosecuting someone for the alleged offense of "possession/use of a firearm in 'furtherance' of a felony" i highly doubt someone would be charged with that given the circumstances.
if i was growing and someone kicked in my door, wielded a gun and my life was on the line and/or shots were fired at me, i would return fire or order said person on the ground and if the gun was pointed at me, i would shoot. i highly doubt any jury would convict someone of homicide in that situation...i'd chop the grow in less than a minute, black bag any discretionary items and toss em with the garbage and hope that the detectives/police dont find the grow area and/or charge me for it....even if they did they would have to directly link the grow, the firearm and the robbery to pin the 'furtherance of a felony' on someone...
That is a very uneducated opinion above I am afraid, it's good to hope and wish in such described situations but reality is the felony grow already existed during the described self defense shooting and you were committing that felony at the time the actual shooting occured as well as you being in the active constructive possesion of that then "illegal" firearm.
You may defend yourself of course to save your life but that does not make the weapon itself legal or the actual usage of that said weapon. It does not become legal because another crime is taking place against you. So even if you were not charged with a homicide because it's determined you acted in self defense you would still be charged with an enhanced felony (most likely federal) because of the weapon and the grow along with the death of a human being, so likely you would be facing at least a manslaughter charge along with the rest. Remember you are an evil dangerous pothead in their eyes.
Removal of the grow (if you really believe that is realistic) would just be an additional charge of tampering with evidence of a crime scene. Most likely you would not be able to remove and hide the existence of a grow with the many factors that would be in play if a shootout occured.
They would also credit the robbery and entire violent event to the presence of the illegal grow to begin with. The legal reasoning would be if the growing and felony conditions did not exist, then there would not have been a violent crime such as the robbery take place against you and the resulting shooting of someone in "self-defense" with your illegal firearm. It's all pretty much tainted after the fact because you are in a constant state of a felony being committed. This is just the way it is I'm afraid when you mix guns and illegal growing with shooting someone. Not a good mix really, definitely not pro mix.
You may defend yourself of course to save your life but that does not make the weapon itself legal or the actual usage of that said weapon. It does not become legal because another crime is taking place against you. So even if you were not charged with a homicide because it's determined you acted in self defense you would still be charged with an enhanced felony (most likely federal) because of the weapon and the grow along with the death of a human being, so likely you would be facing at least a manslaughter charge along with the rest. Remember you are an evil dangerous pothead in their eyes.
Removal of the grow (if you really believe that is realistic) would just be an additional charge of tampering with evidence of a crime scene. Most likely you would not be able to remove and hide the existence of a grow with the many factors that would be in play if a shootout occured.
They would also credit the robbery and entire violent event to the presence of the illegal grow to begin with. The legal reasoning would be if the growing and felony conditions did not exist, then there would not have been a violent crime such as the robbery take place against you and the resulting shooting of someone in "self-defense" with your illegal firearm. It's all pretty much tainted after the fact because you are in a constant state of a felony being committed. This is just the way it is I'm afraid when you mix guns and illegal growing with shooting someone. Not a good mix really, definitely not pro mix.
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If I was a police officer I would love the info on this thread
I juggled the choice of getting protection for myself for a few years. After reading threads here and the local news there is no way I am not having a gun in my house regardless if I am growing or not. About 2 months ago I picked up a .45 Springfield XDM 13+1 pistol, sitting right under my mouse with hollow points in it right now. I take it to bed every night and to the work area when I am working. None of these scrubby criminals are getting the jump on me!
I decided I would rather do some time then see me or my girlfriend injured or worse over some BS.
I decided I would rather do some time then see me or my girlfriend injured or worse over some BS.
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Put your gun under a fake rock (heat rock) in a terrarium with a preferably non venomous snake.
Looks cool, requires minimal maintenance, is cheap and dependable.
Put your gun under a fake rock (heat rock) in a terrarium with a preferably non venomous snake.
Looks cool, requires minimal maintenance, is cheap and dependable.
Bro, there is nothing here that isn't pretty common anyways-- They have seen it all...they just don't have the ability to check every single place, in every single raid-- There are thousands of Threads just like this, all over the internet...it really isn't giving them any info they don't already know--
My choice for grow guns
http://www.impactguns.com/store/736676037018.html
They are tiny, super easy to hide, not the most powerful in the world, but better then nothing, and cheap too.
About the size of a blackberry, think how easy that would be to hide.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/736676037018.html
They are tiny, super easy to hide, not the most powerful in the world, but better then nothing, and cheap too.
About the size of a blackberry, think how easy that would be to hide.
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feral
I know I'll be blasted for this but what the fuck.
All this talk of guns and protecting your grows with violence is not going to do the cannabis movement any good.
There are plenty of LEO, politicians, etc. that read these forums. And with this kind of talk how can we expect them to decriminalize, legalize, or even grant MMJ in states that don't have it when we are making ourselves to be on the same level as the cartel's, etc.
You may not see it that way, but put yourself in THEIR eyes and see what your writing.
Now go ahead and bash me if you wish.
All this talk of guns and protecting your grows with violence is not going to do the cannabis movement any good.
There are plenty of LEO, politicians, etc. that read these forums. And with this kind of talk how can we expect them to decriminalize, legalize, or even grant MMJ in states that don't have it when we are making ourselves to be on the same level as the cartel's, etc.
You may not see it that way, but put yourself in THEIR eyes and see what your writing.
Now go ahead and bash me if you wish.
jtechnical
New member
I don't think anyone is applying they want to use their gun. Just because someone has a gun doesn't mean they want to shoot someone. Regardless medical growers are not doing anything illegal by growing so why be punished for having a firearm for armed intruders. I know a lot of people who don't grow and still own a firearm for protection.
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slightly more on topic.....
When I was a kid, I stripped everything out of an electrical wall outlet.
Capped wires, removed all "guts".
Glued the front receptacles on from the back, etc.
Can't recall if I retained the screw to hold it to the wall or if I made a spring clip of some sort.
Could stuff an ounce or so in it!
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When I was a kid, I stripped everything out of an electrical wall outlet.
Capped wires, removed all "guts".
Glued the front receptacles on from the back, etc.
Can't recall if I retained the screw to hold it to the wall or if I made a spring clip of some sort.
Could stuff an ounce or so in it!
SD
