government is not left up to the nature of any one human(except in monarchies, which we are not discussing)... don't be silly.
There are only two choices.... government or anarchy.
If you trust people to behave well in an anarchy you are naive.
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government is not left up to the nature of any one human(except in monarchies, which we are not discussing)... don't be silly.
There are only two choices.... government or anarchy.
If you trust people to behave well in an anarchy you are naive.
really you think winning elections is the point?
wholly shit it's worse than i thought!
getting elected is just a way to start earning "debts" from lobbying groups and landing an 8 figure private sector gig after your done doing their bidding.
and "parties" are the sham to keep us fighting.
More unfounded vitriol that needs to be called out.
Cool... so you trust anarchy more than you trust government.
not me.... that'd be nonsensical.
it was completely founded, and not in the least vitriolic.
when discussing political parties, yah. elections are kinda part of the point.
you didn't answer, btw.
what is your suggestion?
this is where you and i have differed in the past..
you either believe in your black and white \ this or that world
or use it as completely dishonest tactic of false ultimatums.
either way its deplorable.
there are other options.
expansion of federal government power
limiting federal governmental power
and any of a thousand other options between current government nd anarchy.
maybe that tactic works in the circles you converse in....
but ffs man there is a concept of nuance.
Nope... you mischaracterize my statements yet again.
It has nothing to do with "believing ion a black and white/this or that world."
It has to do with the definitions of the words I used.
The two choices are government or anarchy.
This is not a black and white view, it is a literate one which understands the definitions of the terms I used.
You either have a government, or you have an anarchy, as far as I can tell... If you disagree... Describe a country that would be neither anarchy or governed.
anarchy |ˈanərkē|
noun
a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.
• absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal.
govern |ˈgəvərn|
verb [ trans. ]
1 conduct the policy, actions, and affairs of (a state, organization, or people).
Anyone not living in an anarchy is being governed.
step outside your limited R or D mindset.
dont vote for parties.
the choice your presented is what you accept.
like going to a 10000 item buffet and thinking you have to have only chicken or steak.
How about we start chatting about cannabis prohibition as it applies to the Chinese people and their government for a change?
......sorry, but I'm getting real burned out on the American political scene by now.....
....many would agree, it does get a tad boring...
...Good GOVERNANCE is actually possible I do believe, but then again I am forever the optimist.....
......sorry, but I'm getting real burned out on the American political scene by now.....
....many would agree, it does get a tad boring...
...Good GOVERNANCE is actually possible I do believe, but then again I am forever the optimist.....
i understand your statement..
like saying the light is either on or off...
but what does that have to do with current discussion?
of course no government is anarchy...
who suggested we eliminate government?
are you just typing for the sake of typing again?
are you going to justify rape and murder again?
what is your point with the anarchy talk?
but that still involves using government to fix government.
thus my confusion at the statement to begin with, especially in re: elections.
You have to use government to fix government, whether you change government through election or coup, you're still only ever replacing government with government.
lmao.
because I simply asked how those who do not trust government can be trusted to fix it, and my words were twisted by others, forcing me to respond by explaining something so basic. When my statements are intentionally distorted and attacked, sometimes I have to simplify things so that all can see the undeniable nature of my point.
Also... I NEVER justified rape and murder(I was asked to play nitpicky word games in a different thread and I played along). You are once again distorting the reality of the situation to try and cast me in a negative light. How very tea party... again.
what confuses you?
the current system is broken!
trying to use a broken system to fix itself has worked how many times?
have a 2 party slug fest see how much gets accomplished.
nothing will change for our benefit.
hows about that usa patriot act huh? funny once that power was taken by the repukes the democraps railed at the violations...
no repeal though?
believe politicians at your own peril.
i think it's reading somebody that contradicts themselves more frequently than i roll joints.
that's kinda confusing.
the only ones able to fix it are the ones who dont trust it.
a better question would be
how those who trust government can be trusted to fix it?
if they trust it then they would see no reason to fix it.
or are you in the habit of fixing things that are not broken?
maybe you just trust broken things to function?
aren't tea party candidates politicians?
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