the 10-10-10 thread...what is your opinion?

[Weird]

i feel it is noteworthy to mention

real or imagined, our perceptions, when allowed to effect the outcome of our thoughts, ultimately manifest into physical energies as expressed through our actions

so in this manner, every personal reality has an effect on this world, real or imagined

if we measure the meaning of most any human concept based on the scope influence versus integrity of the logic contained within relative to our scientific understanding, well then we must say

"Yes Virgina there is a Santa Clause" or in plain speak yes the fiction we believe to be real therefor is

 

[southflorida]

I beleive the interior of an atom was split open and empty space was found. How can that be. How can the fundamental elements of reality be made of empty space. This means that the reality in which perceive can be made of empty space meanin its an illusion or not really there.

When your dreaming, unless you know what your doing, you have no recollection of the physical make up you have until you wake up to it. Essentially when you die you wake up from this world with undying proof that the world you left is real. Who is to say that this reality is more real than the next. We are not here simply because we evovled because things that were here before us has yet to possess the conciousness we all have whether limited or not. and I did feel that ascension progressing faster this mornin.

hi SJ, don't know if you read the essay in my link, the one with
the haunteduniverse.com in it, but it is an intersting read, and also
in my tread...

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=190841

there is a link to a PDF book, called Busting Loose From The Money
Game (it's not really about money...lol) it explains very well about
how our reality is created on a moment to moment basis, and if
this is the kind of thing that interests you, the first part of the
book is the best explanation I have ever seen in "human" language
and not scientific language, which goes over my head...lol

 

[southflorida]

i feel it is noteworthy to mention

real or imagined, our perceptions, when allowed to effect the outcome of our thoughts, ultimately manifest into physical energies as expressed through our actions

so in this manner, every personal reality has an effect on this world, real or imagined

if we measure the meaning of most any human concept based on the scope influence versus integrity of the logic contained within relative to our scientific understanding, well then we must say

Yes Virgina there is a Santa Clause

Weird, my latest search for the ultimate truth, has led me to a
realization that there is no such thing as a real human being living
on a planet earth...lol...In a simple version, my latest persepective
looks like this...Consciousness creates a prism through which it
manifests the illusion of what looks like a human being with a body,
thoughts, feelings, senses, etc...and around this human being there
are other human beings, nature, moon, sun, solar system, galaxy, etc.

In reality it looks like this: Consciousness (projector) sends energy
through the prism (film) and that creates a movie (human being
living a life, with all the things that are inside of him and outside of him).

This is happening on a moment by moment basis, and it is all one,
present moment experience, there is no one observing this, no one
doing anything, no one experiencing this.

It is all "one nondual experience." The prism is what creates the
illusion of duality, and the illusion of separateness, and the illusion
that we as humans have a choice, a separate will, while in reality
everything is one experience, and it is all one consciousness, there
is no such thing as a separate human being, it is all Consciousness/
Awareness/Universe.

This sounds outrageous and unbelievable, but anyone can
experience this if he/she puts aside his ego/thinking/internal dialogue
and simply observes the present moment.

The fact is that this present moment that we are in right now, is all
that has ever been, even all the things that happened in the past
happened in the present moment, and all the things that will happen
in the future will happen in the present moment.

No one has ever though, felt, smelled, or done ANYTHING ELSE except
in the present moment. The majority of people don't accept this as
a fact that it is. They think there is a past and a future, but in
reality...there isn't. There is only this one present moment, and
nothing else.

This is the only thing that Consciousness can't hide from us...lol, and
it is the door to the truth. It is not easy to accept that we don't
exist in reality, I am aware of this, but it is my current perspective,
and it is not a comfortable thing to become aware of, and then
to accept...but it is the truth. Anyone that is ready to stop living
in an illusion can see this for themselves, but they have to be ready
to step through this door, otherwise they will say this guy SF is a
looney tune in an asylum...lol, and go back to living in a dream
thinking they are a separate human being living on planet earth.

This is the explanation why everything is so perfect in our lives, and
why we have gone through and survived everything and ended up
living so many years.

Because we are all the "main characters" in a movie that is being
projected through a prism (film) but it is nothing but a dream.

...very similar to The Matrix movie, except there is nothing else,
only The Martix World...and Consciousness...and this is all one
experience...it is nondual...it is just happening, and no one is doing
anything...it is all just happening on its own...lol

 

[ibjamming]

I beleive the interior of an atom was split open and empty space was found. How can that be. How can the fundamental elements of reality be made of empty space. This means that the reality in which perceive can be made of empty space meanin its an illusion or not really there.

Hey Joe...

There are 3 "quarks" inside each proton and neutron. Depending on the combination of three of the six quark types, you get different particles.

But what will REALLY fuck with your head is...an ATOM is 99.999% empty space. That's right, the keys you just pressed to type "WTF?" in reply...are REALLY 99.999& empty space! Is LOOKS solid huh? It FEELS solid too...I can hear it click! I'm serious...it's 99.999% empty space between electrons and the nucleus. Just like the sun and the planets. In fact, if you put another solar system right next to ours and let them share a planet or two...you'd have to scale...what two atoms would look like sharing a bond.

Hmmm...hydrogen and helium are the most abundant elements...single or double stars are the most common...coincidence? Probably...but maybe not.

"Reality" is a really strange place...only for the brave of heart. We're constantly kidding ourselves...about just about everything!

 

[southflorida]

Hey Joe...

There are 3 "quarks" inside each proton and neutron. Depending on the combination of three of the six quark types, you get different particles.

But what will REALLY fuck with your head is...an ATOM is 99.999% empty space. That's right, the keys you just pressed to type "WTF?" in reply...are REALLY 99.999& empty space! Is LOOKS solid huh? It FEELS solid too...I can hear it click! I'm serious...it's 99.999% empty space between electrons and the nucleus. Just like the sun and the planets. In fact, if you put another solar system right next to ours and let them share a planet or two...you'd have to scale...what two atoms would look like sharing a bond.

Hmmm...hydrogen and helium are the most abundant elements...single or double stars are the most common...coincidence? Probably...but maybe not.

"Reality" is a really strange place...only for the brave of heart. We're constantly kidding ourselves...about just about everything!

...the shit will really hit the ceiling when the scientists will be forced
to admit that inside the 0.001% that is currently considered solid,
there is also empty space...lol

 

[AmicusCuriae]

The atom is a model. "Empty space" is a concept.

Truth is fundamental,

but reality is a matter of perspective.

Life begets life.

In human affairs, in my opinion, the most important truth to comprehend is the difference between the public and the private. Master these two realms, and their relationship to each other.

My best to all,

-

 

[southflorida]

The atom is a model. "Empty space" is a concept.

Truth is fundamental,

but reality is a matter of perspective.

Life begets life.

In human affairs, in my opinion, the most important truth to
comprehend is the difference between the public and the private.
Master these two realms, and their relationship to each other.

My best to all,

-

...don't know who you are, but this post really is, how can I put it,
sort of the "a-ha" type, that is very rare to see in a forum!

...can you explain a little more about "comprehending the truth
between the public and the private." and what you mean by
mastering these two realms and their relationship to each other?

 

[green_land]

we are not simply human
beings having a spiritual experience, but that we are something
much more...in fact, something much, much more...to the infinity!

 

[southflorida]

Spiritual Enlightenment...can cannabis help?

Spiritual Enlightenment...can cannabis help?

Hi folks, this is southflorida, and I'm just another "appreciator" that
recognizes the quality, significance, and magnitude of what Dj Short
has done for the cannabis community through his work and his
manifestations, i.e. -- the "blue-genetic" creations!

Since this is the best sub-forum to talk about spirituality and how
marijuana can play a part in the structure of life, I wanted to share
some infromation with you and see how it goes. Would appreciate
all honest comments, and hope that this thread will help us all, in
some way understand ourselves and each other a little better.

Anyway, first I like to write a few obvious facts, that can be observed
by everyone, and don't need to be proved through science, or any
other concept-based approach:

1) We, as human beings always live in the present moment.

2) We only know that we exist (as in I am) and don't know for sure
if we were born, or if we are going to die. The reason I say this, is
because obviously no one remembers when he was born, and if you
are currently alive, there is no way to be 100% sure that you are
going to die.

3) If we look back on everything that we remember in our life, it
was all a series of "present moment" snap-shots very similar to how
a movie film looks like. If you put a projector life through this film
your life will look like a movie, from the first moments you remember
to the present moment, where you are reading this on your monitor.

4) Each one of us, is the main character in each of our "movies" and
no matter what has happened in our lives, good or bad, we somehow
made it to this present moment, more or less, in one peace.

5) Many of us want to know the "ultimate truth" about life, or what
many of us would think of as "what the f*ck is this really all about?"

Well, my 26 year search for this answer, which started when I was
14, and living in Ft. Lauderdale, FL -- a few months ago brought me
some interesting answers, and this is what I would like to share
in this thread, and ask "what has your experience been in this area
and has marijuana helped you answer the questions "what is truth?"

I am going to give a short-version of it, just in case this is not something
that will interest anyone, and then this thread will die, and I will
continue doing what I do, and you will all continue doing what you do.

Anyway, here it is:

1) There is one nondual Universe/Consciousness/Awareness (from
here will be called "just" Consciousness, so I don't have to keep
writing these three words over and over...lol

2) This Consciousness creates a prism/hologram through which it
creates the illusion that is the human life. This pretty much looks
like a projector sending light through film and creating a movie on
a movie screen.

3) Each human being is a character in this "total immersion movie"
and it 100% convinced that he and everything in his life is totally
real, and very rarely doubts this. The only exceptions is during
sessions with "quality herb" (like Dj's...lol), LSD, Mushrooms, etc.
and plus rare moments in life, like near death experiences, and
other situations that are an exception, and not the norm.

The basic conclusion, in case anyone is not seeing what I'm trying
to say is this: We are not real, there is no earth, no moon, no Sun,
in fact there is nothing.

This is all a movie, or a game, that is being manifested by this
Consciousness for its own reason, sort of like when we visualize
something in our head, or when we see a dream while sleeping.

There is nothing separated from this Consciousness, it is unified,
non-dual, it is not experiencing, observing, or doing anything.

It is all "one experience" that is happening in the present moment.

The biggest clue to this is the "Present Moment" itself, and this is
the only part which it was not able to TOTALLY hide from us
humans. But, as you can see yourself, it is doing a very good job in
hiding this from 99.999% of the people.

I know it sounds like I'm from the asylum or something, but this is my
perspective, and I can't go back to the illusion that I was living in,
before this realization sort of "hit me."

The only folks that will be able to "grasp" this in any way, are the
ones that already see this themselves, or the ones that have been
sitting on the "awakening" fence themselves, and this will information
will push them over...lol.

The rest of the readers will simply ignore this, laugh at it, or not
even noticeit at all. This information came to me while I was
smoking many different strains in Amsterdam in a hostel that I was
living on Nieuwindiek street for a few months, that is 5 minutes
from the Central station. Some of the weed that I smoked was
from a small Dutch grower breeder and had Dj Short genetics in it.

The "spiritual highs" that were created after toking on his herb
and hash were like nothing I ever experienced in my 26 years
of smoking THC products, not once.

And when I was reading Mr. Alkaline thread yesterday, it hit me that
maybe the Blueberry Sativa and Blueberry Indica genetics that were
in the buds and sift has we were smoking opened up this new
perspective for me and allowed me to observe this?

This is why I decided to start this thread and get some of your
opinions, beliefs, convictions, visions, experiences, and other
information that you possess so we can all benefit from it!

Thanks in advance for your posts, and be gentle if you think I'm totally koo-koo...lol

http://uploading.com/files/AXGXLOQ7/...0Game.pdf.html

this is a book in PDF format that explains in normal words, the message
that I'm trying to get across. Choose the "free download" option, and
enjoy. It has a weird name, but it isn't about money, since the name
has money in it. If there are questions about it, just ask in this thread!

 

[Mr. Alkaline]

I like the content and wish you to know of my own appreciation.
-It's Monday morning and I'm out the Door, but I recall that LSD 25 really did something to the US citizens, and there motivation to seek out this Higher Plane, that just sorta landed in their lap back them with that particular fleeting substance. Great Thread Bro

 

[southflorida]

I like the content and wish you to know of my own appreciation.
-It's Monday morning and I'm out the Door, but I recall that LSD 25 really did something to the US citizens, and there motivation to seek out this Higher Plane, that just sorta landed in their lap back then with that particular fleeting substance. Great Thread Bro

Thanks Mr.A, and I hope with your help and with the help of many
other open-minded people we can really put some information in
this thread so that we as humans can play the game of life to the
best of our spiritual abilities.

Even though it is not we who are playing, but the One Consciousness,
still, in some way it is allowing us to "think" that we are also
participating in this "game of life" and for this I am thankful.

Until I had this realization in Amsterdam, and it obviously didn't just
arrive from smoking weed...lol, still the pieces started to fall into
their places little by little after I left, and the whole puzzle seems
to be making more and more sense to me now.

When I have the time, I will be dedicating my time to this thread,
because this is something that I have a strong desire to share with
other people, and this is why eventually I chose this sub-forum.

Even though I lived in America for a while (1980-1994) the majority
of my life, I lived in the Eastern European Country where I was born.

So, English is not my first language, but obviously I know it very
well, understand everything, but only know the most basic words.
This does not matter, of course, because whatever I want to
describe, I can describe, I'm just writing this from the start, in case
my writing seems strange to people for who English is the first language.

Mr.A, anyway, as far as LSD, it is the #1 substance that allows
people to actually experience the "truth" and this is one of the
major reasons why the 60's were, well the 60's ...lol

I tried it a few times myself while living in the USA, but my experiences
were mostly with seeing dragons swimming in my pool, seeing
atoms flowing all around me, and watching thousands of UFOs
with what seemed like millions of aliens living in the Arizona
desert, while I lived in that state, after getting back from Mexico,
where I moved after reading all the Carlos Castenada books...lol
in 1990, at the age of 20.

Maya (program that keeps the majority of people in delusion) quickly
caught on that LSD has this ability, and as always did away with it,
as it has done with just about everything that allows us to see
the "truth." But this is what makes it more challenging, and exciting,
the fact that it is a long, hard journey, and when we arrive, we see
that the truth is that there is no such things as "us" -- that all
there is...is a character on a movie screen.

This was a devastating blow to my EGO, and it started to slowly
fall apart after that, and the more and more I realize that there
is no "me" as a person, the thinner and thinner the walls become.

About the LSD we can exchange more information because this
is considered the best "doorway" into the truth, without many
years of painful self-inihiliation...lol

Looking forward to sharing my experiences, and looking forward
to reading about your experiences, and other people's experiences
and hopefully learning more and more about this very,very, very
strange thing that we human beings call...spiritual life.

 

[Weird]

one word

sativa

 

[AmicusCuriae]

...can you explain a little more about "comprehending the truth
between the public and the private." and what you mean by
mastering these two realms and their relationship to each other?

Laws: Cannot be broken.
Statutes: Social structures created by men to influence each other.

With that being said, this entire communication is private, for private eyes. If you are acting in the public, this doesn't concern you.

Let me get straight to the point here, as my time is precious:
You are not your name, not your body. The real "you" doesn't own anything, so your name is not yours, and your body is not yours. Most people would say "My name is James." That is NOT your name. (Don't know your name, if that is it it was lucky guess) . . many people use that name. If greed is the root of evil, then how does it look to the universe for you to try and take ownership of a name? . . . It's not your body, either. You use it. Can you take care of it by yourself? Who beats your heart, keeps you breathing, who "created" that body and oversees its constant maintenance?

If you don't have a mortgage on a house, pretend you do. Who "owns" the house? The house belongs to the "system." You needed the system to construct the house, without the system you wouldn't have a job to "pay" for the house, without the "system," no one would have or need a house. Without the "system" who would make and install your furnace, your bathroom fixtures,etc? In a hundred years, the house will do someone else good but probably not you. In purely legal terms, you may be the primary interest holder (you live there and no one else claims to take care of it), but no one owns anything. . .

As soon as you say or act like you do, you've created a controversy with the system - with the public - and this is where MANY people's problems lie. They want to blame the system, but its them who is at fault. So much greed 'round here. . .

Now, in private I can explain this to you, but the system will NEVER explain this to anyone. Not because the system is bad, but because the system is there to perpetuate. Our ancestors built and created society, it is important. It is the structure within which we can experience a billion paths. The only thing more important than the system is people's private lives; but the system will never - CAN NEVER - acknowledge that. The system will let you live out your wildest dreams, or give you all the rope you need to hang yourself with. The system is perfect.

Now, what would be interesting to get into here is how money is imaginary - how its totally unnecessary to slave away for material goods, how everything is already paid for and the masses "volunteer" to be poor and to be slaves to the system, how your signature can discharge every debt. . . but I'll leave that alone for now. Suffice to say I don't work for a living anymore, I live for a living. . . and I've had to unlearn a lot of what 99.99% of people consider "reality."

The last thing I'll touch on is marijuana prohibition. It doesn't affect me other than I live within a system that acts a certain way. In public I will respect the public, the system; in private I will do whatever I want. I can never be fined or sent to jail for anything I don't _explicitly_ agree to. The "system" is entirely voluntary. I can't really make that any clearer. You can't be forced to pay any fines or to be sent to jail. Everyone in jail volunteered to be there. . . I know that's tough to accept, but its true.

"What is your name?"

"My name is Pat."

Wrong answer. You don't own anything, Pat. Now would you like to pay to learn this lesson or be put in a cell for a little bit to think about it? Don't worry, well use your money to perpetuate the system, you understand, it's bigger than all of us.

"But its my body, its my weed."

Wrong answer, Pat, you're a spiritual being. How can you own anything? For the protection of everyone we've got to put you in your place. Trust us, you're better than this - but we can't explain it to you, only you can learn this on your own in private. Trust us, its all out there. If it wasn't, none of this would exist.

My best to all,

-

 

[WasntMe]

two years ago 08-08-08
last year 09-09-09
this year 10-10-10
next year 11-11-11
two year from now 12-12-12
all based on a judeo christian calendar

Mon, 11 October 2010 - 3rd of Cheshvan, 5771 in the jewish calander
mayan?
should I continue?

 

[southflorida]

Laws: Cannot be broken.
Statutes: Social structures created by men to influence each other.

Now, what would be interesting to get into here is how money is imaginary - how its totally unnecessary to slave away for material goods, how everything is already paid for and the masses "volunteer" to be poor and to be slaves to the system, how your signature can discharge every debt. . . but I'll leave that alone for now. Suffice to say I don't work for a living anymore, I live for a living. . . and I've had to unlearn a lot of what 99.99% of people consider "reality."

My best to all,

-

I liked your whole post, thanks for taking the times, and I understood
everything but this part. If you ever have the time would appreciate
if you explained this as much as you can

 

[southflorida]

two years ago 08-08-08
last year 09-09-09
this year 10-10-10
next year 11-11-11
two year from now 12-12-12
all based on a judeo christian calendar

Mon, 11 October 2010 - 3rd of Cheshvan, 5771 in the jewish calander
mayan?
should I continue?

no, it's quite clear...thanks!

 

[southflorida]

one word

sativa

lol...oh boy, you really boiled it down, didn't you?

 

[GrinStick]

your life as an hallucination...exhibits a bit of glandular trichome influence?
get a grip, it will all be over soon enough. Free your imagination and get out that box. lmfao

 

[Weird]

i have my own theories but I have always sought after soaring highs the ones that brought a a tumult of emotion and thought

i found this to be a sativa trait

interestingly enough I have found that american pharmaceuticals like benzopenes and opiates seem to interfere with the dynamics of the sativa high

you can appreciate the indica body traits of cannabis if you take pharmaceuticals but the psychedelic aspect of sativa seems extremely muted if not lost on those who are on them

idk i think sativa i think sacred and I find some as satisfying spiritually as other psychedelics if not more so

 

[shawkmon]

pick yer weed earlier will also make it more enlightening , try it