A World On A String

[THE PABLOS]

after just working a bunch with the las vegas purple kush cut,which does have a good flavor and decent high...but the plants are a mess,cant hold themselves up,its 70% crappy little popcorn bud and every plant pest just adores it...hate that strain....at least that cut....a giant apin in the ass for not a great yield of popcorn nugs...grew some 9 foot plants,still never had a bud bigger than thumb sized,on a plant that big you would think there would be at least on nice cola....nope...

The cut I had...whatever it really was....had long intervals between flower sets...it wasn't flimsy....stood up well....never had buds much bigger than a quarter...popcorn but tight....dark green leaves and general coloring....the meat of the flowers were purple...lots of resin...mild but funky aroma....stable but would put out nanners if pushed past 55daze.....I tried everything to make it yield better...to no avail. Easy to grow....but pretty boring all and all. Never bred with it.

I had like 7 clones left....and couldn't bring myself to go another round...so I unloaded them on someone....through a friend....that really liked the weed....never met that person so I have no idea whatever happened to that cut. Wouldn't grow it again.

One of my legs cramped all night....maybe 4hrs of sleep...been on the yoga mat trying to get rid of this thing.....from my ass to my knee....annoying cramp....I can feel the knot....hurts like hell when I press it down.

Went over and read that thread Nev has been posting in (the one Lean was talking about)...on their web site....some interesting info regarding the Haze lines.....clear as mud....lol...peeps are crazy...they will argue anything or find conspiracy under every stone. Can't we all get along?

My take....there are several different "lines" taken once Haze hit Europe...Haze in California was hardly consistent yr after yr....Sam narrowed the traits down and made it more consistent....Nev never met the Haze Bros....Nev got his stock from Sam.....the beans were old and came from different yrs ('69/70 etc)....so I'd figure they were from beans that Sam had never worked...as his work was post '76. Most breeders in Europe....most likely use lines more related to the Nev/Shanti work. Both Sam and Nev were cash strapped at the time of their exchange....and it seemed they were sold to Nev...as far as I've gotten....at least as I understand it. Not sure how much any of it matters anyway....but an interesting soap opera.

 

[unclefishstick]

it does still strike me as funny how acrimonious the whole thing can get,i understand the hard work that goes into that sort of breeding,although the haze brothers story hardly strikes me as trained horticulturalist undertaking a program with a specific goal in mind...as long as the genetics themselves are sound,the rest is mostly detail...i suppose it adds a certain romance to have a provenance like that,but as i said,details....humans have been tinkering with pot for so long im not even sure what landrace means truly...you can take a few hundred seeds of any strain and let the strong do their thing for a few dozen years and you likely end up with a strain that is adapted to local conditions,does that make it land race at that point? stoned...rambling...

those cramps are bad...dehydrated? low potassium? got a new/used road bike,needs some parts.looking forward to turning the crank in anger,strapping on the ugly face and pointing myself uphill for some time in the pain cave....sweet sweet lactic acid...

 

[THE PABLOS]

it does still strike me as funny how acrimonious the whole thing can get,i understand the hard work that goes into that sort of breeding,although the haze brothers story hardly strikes me as trained horticulturalist undertaking a program with a specific goal in mind...as long as the genetics themselves are sound,the rest is mostly detail...i suppose it adds a certain romance to have a provenance like that,but as i said,details....humans have been tinkering with pot for so long im not even sure what landrace means truly...you can take a few hundred seeds of any strain and let the strong do their thing for a few dozen years and you likely end up with a strain that is adapted to local conditions,does that make it land race at that point? stoned...rambling...

those cramps are bad...dehydrated? low potassium? got a new/used road bike,needs some parts.looking forward to turning the crank in anger,strapping on the ugly face and pointing myself uphill for some time in the pain cave....sweet sweet lactic acid...

...I think the cramps...since that side (left) is always tight....from foot to neck...come from a car wreck...whiplash type injury....that being young and stupid never took care of. I couldn't walk or stand straight for almost a month....but never went to the doctor. We actually had to ditch the vehicle and hide....I wasn't driving...but we were hammered and all that. Bad scene....typical youth shit.

Anyway....I work on it constantly...stretches...massage....but I'm hard on my body with all the trail stuff...etc....and 44...so pain is going to be there....when I run....doesn't hurt....I'm figuring and working it out....just cost me sleep sometimes.

...Yup...I like a story....as long as it is not slanderous. Those were different times.....I was just a kid then...so I'm 2nd hand anyway you look at it. I know lips were tighter then...had to be....so I'm sure a bunch of shit went down....and I'm sure there are peeps not linked to computers....who would probably roll on the ground laughing if they read all the drama.

I fully believe....that the breeding in those 60-70's fields was pretty basic....look at what they were working with....and under those OD conditions....sketchy stuff....long as flowering sativas...herm stuff...and most those "landrace" sativas were mutts....a wide mix of genetics. I would wager...there was more shit....than desirable traits...what a motherfucker.

I'm happy that peeps want to preserve that kind of thing....not something I would/could do....and I'm not actually sure what they are really preserving to be honest. Seems like a project best done OD.....and well maintained as far as selecting....maybe by basically getting a bunch of desirable strains in seed....planting them all together and starting all over...a sort of open pollination...but with some selection controls. It would still end up being something else...and I think those same peeps... so into preserving...wouldn't find what they were looking for. The genetics would be cataloged though I suppose.

way beyond my head...over and beyond....I'll have to stick to my little indoor mess....and keep finding the stuff that works in my environment. Times have changed.....the plants have changed...why bring yourself down with yesterday? The sun shines ahead...I'm not that interested in memory.....but believe...that the genetic codes may rust....but don't...fade away....if they do though...suck it up...everything has cost. These are the "good old days"....now

 

[unclefishstick]

serious,may as well go back to racks of florescent lights...heck,im using an LED lamp,why look backwards ?

 

[THE PABLOS]

...always been my point....once a moment is gone....why bother trying to give it rebirth? That's like living in the past....and the past...never was....or not as memory serves it. I think by living that way...it is a sign of something missing/unhappiness in your presence.

I can't even hang with old friends...that want to always be living 20 yrs ago.....just annoys the shit out of me....to the point.....where they bum me out....so I don't hang with them anymore. But the ones...that moved on....we're all good.

Generally the peeps that move on...are healthy and creative....those that remain behind are unhappy and subject to additive addiction...as they try to replace whatever they think they need or/are missing. Healthy peeps keep moving on and searching....unhealthy crawl around and live in the past....that's been my observation. Those sort...are never happy with anything...but their misery...and excuses.

Of course memory and nostalgia have their places and moments...I skate old skool pigs and drive my birth yr Chevy....smoke 70s/80s era weed when I can...lol...but I'm not obsessed or overly concerned about losing them. I like the new stuff just as much...well I don't like pop sickle boards...but that's a style and function thing...I'm a surf skater....and love OG Kush....also drive a new vehicle as my everyday....I'm a body of blend and variety...new/old I don't care...none of it is really mine anyway....reality is different for everyone I guess.

 

[unclefishstick]

yup,peeps in my home ground are positively mired in their lives....static..unchanging...i feel something close to pity/disgust for them...just having a goal,a vision for my life ..find myself shedding old friends like an old skin...used to hate this town,now i know its just a place i happen to be,i can make what i want out of it,carve my turns the way i want...be a doer or a be-er,fairy godmothers arent waiting to make everything hunky dory for you...

always thought the line between genius and insanity lay in the ability to create those visions in some tangible way,be it art or science,to wrest the raw stuff of mind into solid material reality(whatever that means)...

 

[rasputin]

I can't even hang with old friends...that want to always be living 20 yrs ago.....just annoys the shit out of me....to the point.....where they bum me out....so I don't hang with them anymore. But the ones...that moved on....we're all good.

Generally the peeps that move on...are healthy and creative....those that remain behind are unhappy and subject to additive addiction...as they try to replace whatever they think they need or/are missing. Healthy peeps keep moving on and searching....unhealthy crawl around and live in the past....that's been my observation. Those sort...are never happy with anything...but their misery...and excuses.

Wow... that just described the situation I've experienced with some of my friends to a T. And we don't have 20 yrs to look back on, which is what trips me out. To hear some of them talk, its like their whole life was decided and lived from 15-20. I get bored out of my mind sitting there listening to them tell stories I've heard a thousand times already, never mind that I was there when it happened!

Just sad to see how some people who at a time you felt like were riding a similar wave to you just seemed to bail at a point and stopped paddling back out for another. It can't be helped but at our age, that's just insanity, to me. I've had to basically walk away from a couple people who just don't seem to get it, don't understand that hanging out with them isn't fun when all they want to do is talk about the past, have no desire or creativity for the here and now, and choose to be neutral on a moving train. Don't look back.

 

[THE PABLOS]

....Pretty much I'm considered a hermit (which I am not...just like less peeps around me), an anti social (which I am not...look at this thread), and over all....a bit of a callous dick (which may hold some merit).....but none of that bothers me.

I gave up trying to please peeps....try not to judge....care little for other's judgements of me..I believe about 1/4 of the whole...that anybody says....with some peeps receiving exceptions.

I've never dealt with bullshit and lies very well...and find....that's what peeps can't help themselves in dishing out. Doesn't depress me....I figure out ways to work around it....I'm becoming more of a psychopath in the sense that I'm learning other's nonsense tactics....and using it to aid them...keep them secure in the illusion they've designed....neutralize them with agreement if I have to....subdue their worry within themselves....whatever...that's why i dig trail running and the back country....I can be free of the nonsense....everything in real time (except when the mind wanders)...failings or successes are all my own.

Ok...better post up some weed related stuff....even though...I consider Progressive Perpetual Pathways more than just my herb garden philosophy....kind of a way through life....I'm experimenting with my idealism on several fronts.

But...here are some currently drying flowers....Killer Chemdog F2....Outdoor Joy Division....I-HOP Satellite (the Chemmy pheno)....



The Joy Division OD is in the middle....close to indoor quality....the more orange looking flower is the Killer Chemdog F2...and the stout nug...the I-HOP....

You are looking at flowers that are becoming a part of my indoor "landrace"....a function of the time.....flowers of romance...designing them to fit in my selfish little private garden....I doubt that anyone will want to preserve it....lol...but it makes me happy.

Perhaps a decade from now....it will be rolling in a new direction (or not at all)....but for now...I am here...it is here....I'm not waiting on shit....nor will I reminiscence unhealthily about yesterday. Hit or miss...sink or swim...fate, luck, knowledge, ignorance.....what you know....and what you don't....confidence in selection ability is the key....really nothing much else matters...peanut galleries are for nuts...let the plants tell the story. The horror.

 

[vod]

Gorgeous weather!



Some more girls are ready. Need to visit a few more. Will get back to this post later. Now it's time for a cocktail in the Biergarten

 

[THE PABLOS]

Man vod...that looks so good. Blessings dude.

I've been processing my harvest....and more harvest....I need to make my hash...but I'm sick of dealing with weed related stuff at the moment.

I had my 1st...."I can't think of one thing I feel like growing next"....that's a strange feeling....for 3 days I've pondered what I want to grow...and I must get something up and going...tough one. Almost a curse.

The outdoor Joy Division is wonderful smoke...love OD smoke.

My favorite thing I'm smoking though....I-HOP Satellite...does it for me nicely.

 

[THE PABLOS]

While I'm here....

While I'm here....

A full sun look at the semi organic Purple Bastard Haze F2....getting very few favors....I do have her 1.7 gal square of....coco and root mass...placed in a 5 gal bucket....with both bucket and square inside a black plastic bag....to hold heat by the roots. I don't cover her....

She has been hit... by frost... numerous times....and I didn't give her any feed for 2wks..she's now being fed bloom again...even though...she is around 80 daze flower (1/2 of which she spent outdoors)....I decided to feed again....due to favorable weather...and the fact...that she started blasting new growth. She has had no N....in over a month.

Pix from above (camouflaged) and below.



No sign that she is freaking out....thrashed...but moving along..hazy...cherry/berry....very interesting now that she is outdoors....indoors I couldn't stand her....her slow developing stringy flowers indoors....made her a burden....I wouldn't have gotten much off her...just a high maintenance plant that would have been disappointing. OD....different story.

 

[unclefishstick]

nothing like the sun.....turns out it has an identical spectrum to the....well i guess the sun!

just got back from riding,just running errands,i carved the f*** outa those roads today,full on urban assault mode..power slidin full on sprinting light as a butterfly ugly face mind body breath unity path outlined in neon razors edge traffic glide sweating spitting funfest....

 

[THE PABLOS]

nothing like the sun.....turns out it has an identical spectrum to the....well i guess the sun!

just got back from riding,just running errands,i carved the f*** outa those roads today,full on urban assault mode..power slidin full on sprinting light as a butterfly ugly face mind body breath unity path outlined in neon razors edge traffic glide sweating spitting funfest....

Yup that thing blinding you in the sky.....it is unable to be beat. That was my thinking as I was posting...about the Mexican plants over there...in that thread we both were in. I'm starting to believe..it is location...location...location.....more than exact genetic pools. How about we take some of this stuff we are working on....and head down to Oaxaca...watch how things get manipulated...it would be interesting over the course of a few yrs.....how a new population would come to be....under those specific conditions.

I can't go anywhere today....I'm bogged down with harvest....wood piles..... started some beans.....I need to get stuff done...busy real world week.

some pretty cool shit in the garden....but kind of sick of it at the same time. They are demanding...and my equipment is being testy...just grower bullshit garden dramas...need a break some days. But project wise.....I'm flying pretty high...stuff is working out to my visions....which is kind of like reaching another level....plateau...on my pathway.

I think the most important thing....is to keep growing plants nonstop....learn them... in the field so to speak...just keep repeating the entire grow process over and over...until you can do it in your sleep. Not just herb plants....grow anything...and grow variety...ramble ramble....back to the trim...way too many rippers..

 

[unclefishstick]

ever had real hawaiin? i mean the real deal local only stuff,insane how good it is,a few generations at most and whatever you are growing will be the island version of it,but take genetic from hawaii back to the mainland and they lose that magic quickly.... was havin a sesh with a bunch of big hawiian boys one day,had some real matanuska thunderfuck grown within sight of the glacier....two hits of pakalolo,off on an hours long trip.....

 

[THE PABLOS]

ever had real hawaiin? i mean the real deal local only stuff,insane how good it is,a few generations at most and whatever you are growing will be the island version of it,but take genetic from hawaii back to the mainland and they lose that magic quickly.... was havin a sesh with a bunch of big hawiian boys one day,had some real matanuska thunderfuck grown within sight of the glacier....two hits of pakalolo,off on an hours long trip.....

I've smoked many an herb...some Haw local only....and many months spent in Mex.....Jamaica....been to N. Africa....Swiss when that was flying....to the best of my knowledge....Haw weed and seed....ain't as good anywhere else...but on the Islands. I would wager the same...and have observed...Mexs are not as good...etc...when they are removed from their place of origin. The Haw seed I grew....didn't turn out much above average...in California.

I'm far from an expert...but everything I do...I try to do objectively...like starting out in the 1st grade...when you know next to nothing about the education system.

Drop the titles (market) off the herbs...ignore what I've read....ignore peeps opinions.....and try to.. just ...make my own observations. It is not easy...indeed...I've been polluted in so many ways. But once my stuff has been mixed....all bets are off...and that makes observations come more truthfully and objectively....I try to be brutally honest and kill everything that I deem suspect....whether conceptual or already fiber.

After all this time...I still do not think the old "landrace" genetics are as important as a lot of peeps...make them out to be. I do not believe....there are a lot of herb farmers....beyond western civilization consumers/growers/breeders...that are out there tending their private heirloom gardens...preserving lines they've worked for generations.

I don't picture many Mexican farmers or Thai farmers....going out of their way to preserve a large breeding population ...it would be documented somewhere....some westerner would have found their way....to U Tube it by now. Like Bigfoot or something lol....these old lines disappear because they are meant to.....they were created mostly by accident...grew for $$$$$..and when times changed....they evolved into something else....due mostly to location changes.

I've studied how the Narco trade has affected the Canna trade.....it is what makes these sort of location changes....laws change in one country...so the operations are moved to other countries...Golden Triangle sure ain't what it was....all due to politics...so the weed dries up.....S American weed replaced by coke and.. now heroin. Trade routes change....and with it....the genetics change. Absolute evolution....just like always.

There is a pretty good book I have....that details the Narco trade...over the last few centuries. Old as the hills...we are but...a blip.

My point...I guess....is that preserving location may be more important than preserving exact genetic line ups. Left on its own...we know what cannabis does....it will revert feral and start evolving to its environment. Cannabis is a hard core survivor...I'm not worried about it.

 

[unclefishstick]

i might even uncharitably rate its long term survival chances as better than humans....for all we know,cannabis is breeding us! no more growing in some raspy field !! it wants climate controlled indoor luxury LOL

 

[vod]

Interesting observations. Locations... impact...

I just hope it's possible to grow something very good in the temperate zone (or wherever I am ). Comparable? Can't say I smoked anything from the sweet spots... Not that much smoking experience in general. I'm probably some 20 years younger than you guys.
I started to grow to see what is out there and if the good experiences can be had more consistently.
I liked the Grapefruits I had first. Happy, made me fit, ready for adventure, good social, party weed. I definitively like me a dancing weed. Not something I get often. The whole mind effect thing has so many nuances though... takes time to know a girl.
intellectual approach? go by gut feeling? Fucks up my buzz to keep thinking about it...
I have little time in my life that I can dedicate to smoking... Can't get to know them all. And not what I want to do. Fuck. Some things I smoke once and never touch again. I would get back to it only by accident Fuckin MMGGxBHPTs just wreck me.

I just smoked a little of something unknown that I just found behind my keyboard. It's nice
Not too much. Having bags of different shit around makes me overdose too often. No time for a heavy ride... Ramble ramble ramble... Got me some more indoor sweets to sample on the way... sour diesel and schroom x c99 and the schroomy one I had a few years ago crossed to the thunk. later satori and satothai again, congo, cls puna mix... and then there is the whole OD harvest to judge. Where are my smoking holidays? Nowhere...

Anyway I got carried away here...

Weather is fantastic. No rain! Ha! Sunshine for over a week now and no end in sight. Temps gonna start dropping to zero soon, but during the day the sun is hot and the air warms to over 20degC. The plants love it and apart from a few should be all done now. I'm very thankful that the weather allows me to dry it outdoors. Should turn out better than taking it fresh in (which is not possible due to x-factor security issue). Hanging them a couple days outside, apart from simplifying the logistics, seems to make the smoke more smooth and tasty.

I got the first from the BHxBHPTs in yesterday. The one in the pix. Straight to indoor drying and manicured them fresh. Such a joy to handle proper buds after the leafy stuff. Now all it's left, the bulk of my crop, will be like this. Very promising. I'd be well stoked to have more than half of the crop turn out prime quality for the first time. I'm fairly confident the souls of the plants will match the looks in niceness... I liked their mom. But we shall see...

I wish I could get a massage after the trimming and hanging sessions...

My mum knows a great healer (she does inner organs, bones, nerves, reflexive... extensive knowledge plus magic in the hands) Every time I'm in Warsaw, I get a massage session. Dunno if she could help with your issue, but there are some serious people out there. A great treasure to know one.

I think the most important thing....is to keep growing plants nonstop....learn them... in the field so to speak...just keep repeating the entire grow process over and over...until you can do it in your sleep. Not just herb plants....grow anything...and grow variety...

important for what?
My garden expanded from ganja, to all sorts of things... first it was salvia, then I got a coffee plant, inherited a palm tree, papyrus and peyote along with a strange succulent from Mallorca... two ephedra sinica seeds turned into little plantlets. An aloe vera was saved from heavy damage. Mint, basilicum, jamaican thyme and kratom came with the post. The first two died on me after some time (though the mint is hard to kill and regenerated), the kratom and the thyme do well. I cook with the thyme often. Clones well and I give it to people... Kratom is a tropical tree, so I expect it to become challenging further down our road. Jiaogulan was doing good until it run out of climbing possibilities and I drowned it. It liked it on my friends balcony and we had some tasty, possibly healthy, tea from it. Gotta figure out a way of growing a years supply next season. Guerilla style
I need more space for my garden. The apartment gives no more. I had two tomato plants on the roof this year. Tasty, but neglected. Was more my neighbours roof than mine.

Truly a nice hobby. Get friends with plants.

From them cannabis makes me do the most for her. The lengths I go to try and please her...

Ah yes! I got my wife to take some pix of my plants yesterday. For the first time ever good times between us since the holidays...
(she is into photography, but this kind and subject she finds most boring.)
So here a little visual from what I was talking about. No proper light in the room, but you can see a little:


a little music that goes well with blogging and smoking for me right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-_R92HqTmA&feature=related

 

[THE PABLOS]

i might even uncharitably rate its long term survival chances as better than humans....for all we know,cannabis is breeding us! no more growing in some raspy field !! it wants climate controlled indoor luxury LOL

...Yup uncle...who is serving whom? It will be here after we are departed. I'd rather not see the genetic modifications....that are on the horizon. That's my only concern really....and that has nothing to do with location in the way I'm envisioning it...that has to do with human controlling human....in a more detrimental way...than prohibition. It will come to be....hide your beans before they are under patent and spirit destroyed....all fems...all lab created...unable to be bred... That is the horror...I speak of.

 

[unclefishstick]

its a wily plant,and modify and sterilize all you want,when nature want two things to f*** they find a way....
yes,cheaply produce Budweiser grade soma for the masses,on its way,agribusiness is salivating over the idea of patenting "strains",they cant find all our seeds!

 

[THE PABLOS]

...vod...you are a mad man. You are growing some wild stuff...I enjoy your pix and post.

...I was kind of just saying....that for me...it was/is important for me to grow many plants...not just herb....because I use them to get to know #s and how to look at a large population of seedlings...even if they are peas or tomatoes. I started my "breeding" experiments with veggies 1st....I observe populations and note differences in the seedlings...or I'll look real quick at a population and focus in on the 1st one that attracts my vision....no matter what size the population...some will always stick out...even at birth.

It is kind of a way for me to learn and cut some corners....as there is no way I can run huge canna populations....I feel it important to be able to select on the fly...so to speak. I must start somewhere.... selection starts before germination....it is all selection....little else.

That is why...I'll start...say 20 seedlings out....and if none do anything for me in the 1st week....I'll cull them....even if they are healthy and normal. I can't run large #s all at once....but I can run smaller batches....select the best....germinate another batch of the same thing...select the best....start another batch...etc....may take a month of doing this....but I eventually end up with what I need....or not...lots of stuff gets scrapped pretty quick....even entire projects....few make it to the flower studio. I kill for absolutely no other reason...than...lack of attraction... 90 percent of the time I kill.

I see a lot of seedlings by using this selection method....it is not science....but it is attraction. I don't want to grow plants that don't attract me....that's a very basic rule in my garden....but a foundation to my projects. I get away from this when I'm limited on the # of seeds I have...or if I'm growing out a friends work. I need a lot of seeds to use this method...but I see that as more the way it would be in nature....#s #s #s....with my guiding hand influenced by mindful concepts.

I like the blind test scenario...no labels....which jar do I reach for 1st? Whichever jar empties the fastest....is probably the best one. Very simple...very honest...very to the point. If you must question what you are smoking....shit can it immediately and move in another direction....doesn't mean...shit canning a project every time...just need to look at more plants or take another angle. For sure...not every cross is successful....but I learn something from most all of them.

Testing presently.....as in...now....PBH F2

...those Haze leaning F2 Purple Bastard Hazes are stand up smokes...cherry/berry Haze aroma transitions perfectly to taste....the high is up and Hazy....different and desirable. I like the Purple Bastard leaners option as well....they are very similar in flavor and effect as the Haze leaners....much faster however.

I've grown Hazeolope and Purple Bastard Haze from Connoisseur....don't know those dudes...never chatted online with them....but I'll give a thumbs up on their selections.....good stuff...genetics that are fun and I would recommend to others.