Vote YES or NO on Prop 19

[mean mr.mustard]

I'm afraid you're missing the main motivation I have for posting.

I am simply warning people to look deeper into the purpose this bill serves.

Look into the future as much as your crystal ball allows.

SCF - I have grown tobacco. It's not nearly as easy to cure as cannabis. There are many retailers that sell tobacco seeds. They are very tiny and take a bit more time than grass. The government (local or federal) can bitch about taxes over a certain point depending on your location.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I've never paid a 100 dollars for a good bottle of wine. I can usually get away for 20 bucks or less, for one of the best buzzes, and flavorful wine, In my opinion. All about flavor. and what you like.

I like Kushes.

Me personally would not pay a thousand dollars for a bottle of fermented grape juice either, but there is big enough nitch of people that are. the industry is thriving.

I worked a party where 8 people spent 13 thousand dollars on 6 bottles of wine, and tipped 25 percent on top of it. Its not actually that uncommon for wealthy people to do that kinda stuff with fine wine parties.

In a quasi legal market, I highly doubt you will ever see a thousand dollar ounce of weed, but it could happen. I bet you sure as hell could find a thousand dollars ounce of super pure 6 month cured dry sift like bubble man makes.

my point is with custom genetics, growing, and curing, hash making, and custom hash blends, and certain terroir from different places. IT WILL BE JUST LIKE WINE. so DO NOT FRET. if you make your living growing pot, and you know how capitalism works you will be able to BANK still, after prop 19 passes.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Hash Zeppelin and I have both been in the wonderful position to try a lot of veeeerrry expensive wines.

We both know that they aren't worth what is paid... but alas... what is paid is paid.

As saying such, I also must confess that I hate seeing overpriced pot... but someone is going to BANK on it.



PS I love flavor. I love life. Flavor is life. If it wasn't for flavor I wouldn't be alive. :friends:

 

[SCF]

i grew up in wine country. Very aware of the rich snoobs that will pay that. And if my organic pot went to a 1000 an ounce. id be pissed. but id just grow my own LOL.


SCF

PS speaking of. time for a little 73 U

 

[Big D]

I CAN see the future and If 19 doesn't pass there is NO other bill. Maybe in another state but not for Cali! This is the test, do people really want marijuana legal? If it's NO than that's it and then they are going to go after the medical laws..... guaranteed!

 

[SCF]

I CAN see the future and If 19 doesn't pass there is NO other bill. Maybe in another state but not for Cali! This is the test, do people really want marijuana legal? If it's NO than that's it and then they are going to go after the medical laws..... guaranteed!

agreed. if something goes wrong. the people can always vote to ammend it at another poll to MAKE THE BILL BETTER.

but right now, if this fails. the whole world will feel like California Abandon them.

Hell if we legalize gay marriage. Then i dont see why this wont pass!!! Its our right to smoke Marijuana, instead of drinking and killing our livers. and lives.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I think that the market has to be shaken one way after it's shaken the next.

I am no advocate for dropping prices... but it is the way it would go, at least for a certain larger market.

I am also no advocate for 1K ounces either.

I am loading this hash oil into the bong in the hopes I can sleep tonight.

 

[Tripsick]

Cali will have the best laws on the books when it comes to Recreational or Medical Use of Marijuana when this passes in 4 weeks. Freedom is a coming

thank you Cali

 

[mean mr.mustard]

agreed. if something goes wrong. the people can always vote to ammend it at another poll to MAKE THE BILL BETTER.

I would like to see this as truth.

I see two decisions as to how this can be ammended.

The second has nothing to do with us.

I swear I was just bringing this up last night.

 

[SCF]

I would like to see this as truth.

I see two decisions as to how this can be ammended.

The second has nothing to do with us.

I swear I was just bringing this up last night.

Not saying its a crutch. But you can get medical marjuana for ANYTHING. So this law, is experimental at least. And it doesnt touch medical marijuana law.

 

[SCF]

I think that the market has to be shaken one way after it's shaken the next.

I am no advocate for dropping prices... but it is the way it would go, at least for a certain larger market.

I am also no advocate for 1K ounces either.

I am loading this hash oil into the bong in the hopes I can sleep tonight.

lol i keep forgetting to smoke, or i will never sleep tonight either. LOL. Cheers!!!

SCF

 

[mean mr.mustard]

No... what I meant was there was two articles in the bill as to how to ammend it.

One was a vote.

The other was legislature.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Double posted so...

 

[SCF]

No... what I meant was there was two articles in the bill as to how to ammend it.

One was a vote.

The other was legislature's choice.

Upon review I only asked kmk420kali's opinion on the probable protocol.

Can you elaberate on how Legislative power can change a bill by the people? I have a lot of knowlege of politics. but no one can know everything. and i am not sure how that works?


as sb420 is to 215. sb420 is illegal, and is considered Void.

And also if thats the case. what about what the attorney general said a year after putting precedence down on Medical marijuana? Is that void too?

It gets very confusing. But to say the less. i can have my medical marijuana.

now i want HASH legal!!!

 

[dagnabit]

No... what I meant was there was two articles in the bill as to how to ammend it.

One was a vote.

The other was legislature.

you forget the third..
pony up for a new prop....
remember this is not a bill

 

[Big D]

Its an evolution not a revolution! 215 has led to 19 and 19 will lead to something better. Its just the way it works.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Pursuant to Article 2, section 10(c) of the California Constitution, this Act may be amended either by a subsequent measure submitted to a vote of the People at a statewide election; or by statute validly passed by the Legislature and signed by the Governor


What's that "or" all about?

 

[Big D]

When people get busted and challenge the laws in court and they win= legislative amendments.

 

[SCF]

Pursuant to Article 2, section 10(c) of the California Constitution, this Act may be amended either by a subsequent measure submitted to a vote of the People at a statewide election; or by statute validly passed by the Legislature and signed by the Governor


What's that "or" all about?

They took it one step further out of legislatures hands, and put GOVERNOR in there too. so both party's have to agree.


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[mean mr.mustard]

So all that means we might not get to vote to ammend it right?