Budsworth
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Thank you, Retro. Went down to Home Depot and picked up some. Will water with it tonight.
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Fungus gnats or WINGED ROOT APHIDS???
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Thank you, Retro. Went down to Home Depot and picked up some. Will water with it tonight.
Budsworth
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Btw...I sprayed the top of the soil with some 1600 X-clude a couple of days ago. Can't see anything moving on the top of the soil anymore. HOORAY!!!
I'm doubtful it got that far down though as it's just aerosol. I will use the bayer advanced tonight like I said.
Now once I do that, would adding some Hygrozyme help my roots recover? Or am I so far into bloom (day 31) that it wouldn't be beneficial? I figure I'd add it on the watering after the bayer advanced treatment.
I'm doubtful it got that far down though as it's just aerosol. I will use the bayer advanced tonight like I said.
Now once I do that, would adding some Hygrozyme help my roots recover? Or am I so far into bloom (day 31) that it wouldn't be beneficial? I figure I'd add it on the watering after the bayer advanced treatment.
I'm so thankful for this thread. I've been growing for years, never had root aphids or anything attack my roots. My plants had tons of syptoms I systematically went thru everything one at time to no avail. So my plants suffered for a few weeks before I ran into this thread, bought some Bayer, and now they are greening up like crazy and on the road to recovery. Thank God.
For now on, I will be using neem and bayer for a preventative as I NEVER one to go thru this again.
For now on, I will be using neem and bayer for a preventative as I NEVER one to go thru this again.
Budsworth
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How do you use it (i.e. 1/2 tsp/gal soil drench,etc)? When do you use it (how far into flower, veg)?
Those things on top of your soil are probably springtails. They are generally not harmful.
Root aphids will be seen on your roots. Pull plant from pot, and examine roots with a loupe or some kind of magnifier. You will see them if they are there. Tough to see without a magnifier.
Budsworth
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Smart Pots
Cut a small hole near the bottom peel it back, and view roots with a loupe.
My previous attempts have been futile so far.
I decided to go full blast, I bought the Bayer Tree and Shrub this time (1.47).
7.5mL/Gal this time. The 'Tree and Shrub' doesnt smell nearly as bad as the 'Bayer Complete' did. The 'complete' caused foaming, I doubt the T&S would, but i turned off the airpumps just to be sure.
I decided to go full blast, I bought the Bayer Tree and Shrub this time (1.47).
7.5mL/Gal this time. The 'Tree and Shrub' doesnt smell nearly as bad as the 'Bayer Complete' did. The 'complete' caused foaming, I doubt the T&S would, but i turned off the airpumps just to be sure.
Shroom, the tree and shrub did wonders for me at the same application rate you are using. I wasn't adding it to a rez though, however it did NOT foam when I added it to water.
Results were very fast and conclusive. I'm sure you'll be pleased.
Root Aphids. . . found in the UK??
Root Aphids. . . found in the UK??
Excuse me guys.
Can anyone tell me if these bugs are found in the UK or Europe?
I have a load of very small, 1mm long bugs crawling around the surface of my coco pots when I flood them with water/nutrients.
They`re all white though, no colour to them at all and I have no winged (or otherwise) insects in my grow room or on my plants.
They`re not spring tails, I`ve had those before.
All my plants look healthy, although I have had issues with Mg def/lock-out signs, which I`ve put down to off-gassing, because after improving Air circulation and water quality these symptoms have disappeared.
As I said, my plants are looking a picture of health, and 2 weeks from the chop and not concerned with treating the coco this run, but I want to re-use the coco and need to be sure of what I`m dealing with.
I cant find any reference to root aphids in the UK, so I`m not sure if they`re a problem here.
These are the best images I`ve been able to take, being only 1mm in length, including their Antennae, they`re hard to focus and blow up effectively.
As I said they`re all white and crawl about, not flicking about like fleas (springtails), and no other signs of insect or bug life to be found in the grow space.
Thanks, Toke
Root Aphids. . . found in the UK??
Excuse me guys.
Can anyone tell me if these bugs are found in the UK or Europe?
I have a load of very small, 1mm long bugs crawling around the surface of my coco pots when I flood them with water/nutrients.
They`re all white though, no colour to them at all and I have no winged (or otherwise) insects in my grow room or on my plants.
They`re not spring tails, I`ve had those before.
All my plants look healthy, although I have had issues with Mg def/lock-out signs, which I`ve put down to off-gassing, because after improving Air circulation and water quality these symptoms have disappeared.
As I said, my plants are looking a picture of health, and 2 weeks from the chop and not concerned with treating the coco this run, but I want to re-use the coco and need to be sure of what I`m dealing with.
I cant find any reference to root aphids in the UK, so I`m not sure if they`re a problem here.
These are the best images I`ve been able to take, being only 1mm in length, including their Antennae, they`re hard to focus and blow up effectively.
As I said they`re all white and crawl about, not flicking about like fleas (springtails), and no other signs of insect or bug life to be found in the grow space.
Thanks, Toke
I was led to believe that for the first 3 grows in the same coco, actually improves as a medium. I dont have experience of this, but I`m finding out now, this is my second run so far, I added 30 ltrs new canna coco pro with about 100 ltrs re-used. I got fed up of moving so much coco in and out of my city house.
You can see photo`s here in the first post and then more further down the page on post 7.
Thanks for your response mate, Toke
I was led to believe that for the first 3 grows in the same coco, actually improves as a medium. I dont have experience of this, but I`m finding out now, this is my second run so far, I added 30 ltrs new canna coco pro with about 100 ltrs re-used. I got fed up of moving so much coco in and out of my city house.
You can see photo`s here in the first post and then more further down the page on post 7.
Thanks for your response mate, Toke
I don't want to give the impression that you can't re use coco. You definitely can. I have certainly done it, but after dealing with root aphids, I no longer reuse medium. Just not worth the chance to reinfect a new grow with pathogens that you can't see. I have noticed that after using coco several times, it starts to break down and doesn't hold oxygen as well, so now I toss it after each grow. I can see how that would be a hassle for a large grow-more stuff to replace, and more cost.
Probably very sensible mate, I only have a 15 plant grow, but its a big hassle, 4 bags of coco in and out every 3 months. If I`d had a problem related to it, I `m sure I`d feel different tho. I`ve still not been able to get a response as to whether root aphids are a problem in the uk, I suspect not tho.
Cheers, Toke
Cheers, Toke
I was wondering if root aphids can cause low clone success rates and long cloning times. I have cloned in about every way imaginable without any problems until now. Now my clones are taking 3 to 4 weeks to root in both aero and rooters. Changes to the room that may also be contributing. This room is in the process of a heat upgrade so the night time temps are in the 60's in my opinion too low. opinions?
Light cycle: 18/6
Temp: 75day as low as 62 usually a low of 65.
Rev temp for aero: 78
Rooter temp: 73
Light cycle: 18/6
Temp: 75day as low as 62 usually a low of 65.
Rev temp for aero: 78
Rooter temp: 73
I think the RAphids were causing me problems with rapidrooters, i could see them walk around on them, and the final rd of RR went 4 weeks without roots before they were trashed. But the only way i see it could cause a problem with areo cloning is if the mother stock is severely effected and unhealthy. I'd been treating my mother stock with imid for a couple weeks before i fired up the areo fwiw.
I switched from RR to a homemade areo ezcloner copy, and i started getting roots again. I moved the (barely) rooted clones to re-used coco (which probably has a few stray RAphids present) and within a week or two the cups are fully rooted.
So my conclusion is... maybe unrooted clones, but once they have roots, they should take off.
I switched from RR to a homemade areo ezcloner copy, and i started getting roots again. I moved the (barely) rooted clones to re-used coco (which probably has a few stray RAphids present) and within a week or two the cups are fully rooted.
So my conclusion is... maybe unrooted clones, but once they have roots, they should take off.
beta said:
you might try dissolving 3 oz (by volume) of DE in 1 gal of water and top watering -- gets the DE down to where they live. my friend tried that with some success ... together with two types of nematodes.
FWIW two applications, about 10 days apart at 10mL/Gal of 1.47% imid, in my recycling reservoir, seems to have gotten them all (20-25 days later).
The application rate caused no visible effects. Read my post history in this thread (noting the dates) for more details.
In hindsight, i wouldnt use the Bayer 'Complete', it smells terrible and the 'Tree and Shrub' has no smell. The Cytho-whatever in the 'Complete' didnt help against the RA, and it's 1/2 as strong as the 'Tree and Shrub'.
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The application rate caused no visible effects. Read my post history in this thread (noting the dates) for more details.
In hindsight, i wouldnt use the Bayer 'Complete', it smells terrible and the 'Tree and Shrub' has no smell. The Cytho-whatever in the 'Complete' didnt help against the RA, and it's 1/2 as strong as the 'Tree and Shrub'.
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