Doc-U-Maker
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Thanks for the idea. I just feel like I would be letting the audeince down truth wise.
Thanks for the good wishes and hope you like the final docs.
BBC Documentary looking to speak to the cannabis community
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Thanks for the idea. I just feel like I would be letting the audeince down truth wise.
Thanks for the good wishes and hope you like the final docs.
mule420
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A young man here in Colorado let 9NeWs in to his grow to film. Chris is now facing life in prison. He pissed off the powers that be, gave them a slap in the face and for that he might pay with his life behind bars...
First rule: Tell no one...
Second rule: Refer back to rule #1...
Third rule: Kill your TV, and smoke one afterwords...
I was busted when I was 17 went to prison etc. That was 22 years ago, I have smoked and grown since then with no problems from the law yet... Because I Don't sell,Tell,or smell.
I wish you luck in your endeavor Bart!
First rule: Tell no one...
Second rule: Refer back to rule #1...
Third rule: Kill your TV, and smoke one afterwords...
I was busted when I was 17 went to prison etc. That was 22 years ago, I have smoked and grown since then with no problems from the law yet... Because I Don't sell,Tell,or smell.
I wish you luck in your endeavor Bart!
Please aim to stick to the facts and ignore the distraction that stereotypes can easily generate 
Cannabis culture has so many branches that not all have been tagged,, some good,,, some not so good, some life-changing, some normal and natural,, it all depends which root/approach we take 
Most of us here would NOT encourage the path we ourselves in the UK were forced to take,, and would prefer a much more progressive/logical/open society surrounding cannabis,, were minors (under 15s) could be protected from any introduction to mind-altering substances until after tax-paying age (16+). At present prohibition prevents this... and fuels a black-market economy and trade that is rife amid our teens. And the government and agencies like the BBC which promote it are to blaim.
I'd like to re-iterate that appealing to young-growers to contact you is not fair on them or a fair sample of the cannabis cultivating demographic in the UK,, the majority of which are rational, free-thinking adults in most cases (not all).
Please note that any beef/negativity/discourse is aimed at the BBC and what it represents,, not you yourself as a fellow being Bart... so peace n love out,, erb, roots, culture,,, one love!
Hope this helps
dL
Note to IC folks : we might as well at least help to slowly educate representatives of the beeb (BBC) if/when/while they are here... rather than allegorically spitting flames at them... least this way we get to have our say... and it might slowly sink in
Personally we would NOT call the number,, that's
but each to their own
Cannabis culture has so many branches that not all have been tagged,, some good,,, some not so good, some life-changing, some normal and natural,, it all depends which root/approach we take Most of us here would NOT encourage the path we ourselves in the UK were forced to take,, and would prefer a much more progressive/logical/open society surrounding cannabis,, were minors (under 15s) could be protected from any introduction to mind-altering substances until after tax-paying age (16+). At present prohibition prevents this... and fuels a black-market economy and trade that is rife amid our teens. And the government and agencies like the BBC which promote it are to blaim.
I'd like to re-iterate that appealing to young-growers to contact you is not fair on them or a fair sample of the cannabis cultivating demographic in the UK,, the majority of which are rational, free-thinking adults in most cases (not all).
Please note that any beef/negativity/discourse is aimed at the BBC and what it represents,, not you yourself as a fellow being Bart... so peace n love out,, erb, roots, culture,,, one love!
Hope this helps
dL
Note to IC folks : we might as well at least help to slowly educate representatives of the beeb (BBC) if/when/while they are here... rather than allegorically spitting flames at them... least this way we get to have our say... and it might slowly sink in
Personally we would NOT call the number,, that's
but each to their own 
you know what would be good Mr Documaker?
....If you could educate people about the real reasons why cannabis was prohibited in the first place......and work out how many people had been incarcerated/victimized because of it over the last 80 years or so.......go waaaay back to when Indian Hemp (cannabis sativa) helped Great Britain to conquer the world.....and talk about the repression/prohibition that was started by the American government with all of it's propaganda back in the 1930's and since so criminalizing millions of people over many decades.....
Read Jack Herers book 'The Emperor Wears No Clothes'.....that will give you a good perspective on it's prohibition......
Once you have properly educated people from a historical perspective about this affront to human rights.....you could then start to show what you can find that is going on today.....
It's a plant......not something made in a laboratory.....but something that grows in nature, what other plants are illegal.....and why?
....If you could educate people about the real reasons why cannabis was prohibited in the first place......and work out how many people had been incarcerated/victimized because of it over the last 80 years or so.......go waaaay back to when Indian Hemp (cannabis sativa) helped Great Britain to conquer the world.....and talk about the repression/prohibition that was started by the American government with all of it's propaganda back in the 1930's and since so criminalizing millions of people over many decades.....
Read Jack Herers book 'The Emperor Wears No Clothes'.....that will give you a good perspective on it's prohibition......
Once you have properly educated people from a historical perspective about this affront to human rights.....you could then start to show what you can find that is going on today.....
It's a plant......not something made in a laboratory.....but something that grows in nature, what other plants are illegal.....and why?
bucks8n
Member
That it's BBC3 (minority channel tending towards sensibility) shows some promise...
The last 'big' BBC cannabis documentary they did was looking for 'addicts' though! http://www.forummatters.com/forums/showthread.php/276-BBC%92s-Horizon-documentary-series-cannabis and was one of the WORST documentaries I've seen that claimed the same kind of 'impartiality' and 'fres look' (called 'The Evil Weed') used animal experiments to 'prove' cannabis led to heroin etc. etc. Also had the most irritating 'addict' ever who was a total waster but had cannabis as a convenient thing to blame for being a useless pikey. Their balance was a moderate hedonist and was a documentary to make the blood boil
So -scepticism is a GOOD idea here...
BUT with whitehall looking at all options to cut costs of policing and public expenditure this is one of the topics that they could make a HUGE saving on if only the daily mail could shut up and stop setting the agenda so maybe, just maybe now is the time for other viewpoints to be expressed. It'll come down to money not sense though - as everything in politics ultimately does... And again there's a strong argument for decriminalisation and industrialisation for those reasons but with Obama down in the polls and the tea party lunatic fringe don't expect anyone to actually DO anything!!!
The last 'big' BBC cannabis documentary they did was looking for 'addicts' though! http://www.forummatters.com/forums/showthread.php/276-BBC%92s-Horizon-documentary-series-cannabis and was one of the WORST documentaries I've seen that claimed the same kind of 'impartiality' and 'fres look' (called 'The Evil Weed') used animal experiments to 'prove' cannabis led to heroin etc. etc. Also had the most irritating 'addict' ever who was a total waster but had cannabis as a convenient thing to blame for being a useless pikey. Their balance was a moderate hedonist and was a documentary to make the blood boil
So -scepticism is a GOOD idea here...
BUT with whitehall looking at all options to cut costs of policing and public expenditure this is one of the topics that they could make a HUGE saving on if only the daily mail could shut up and stop setting the agenda so maybe, just maybe now is the time for other viewpoints to be expressed. It'll come down to money not sense though - as everything in politics ultimately does... And again there's a strong argument for decriminalisation and industrialisation for those reasons but with Obama down in the polls and the tea party lunatic fringe don't expect anyone to actually DO anything!!!
bucks8n
Member
The last 'impartial' BBC documentary
The last 'impartial' BBC documentary
Here you go - go and have your blood boiled by the phrase "I'm an addict.. I'm ruled by it" from the last 'fresh look' the BBC took
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qscNnWhnkRM&feature=PlayList&p=38D11CFB24DB973B&index=0
Treat anything with caution...
The last 'impartial' BBC documentary
Here you go - go and have your blood boiled by the phrase "I'm an addict.. I'm ruled by it" from the last 'fresh look' the BBC took
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qscNnWhnkRM&feature=PlayList&p=38D11CFB24DB973B&index=0
Treat anything with caution...
Bart, location wise,,, you are in the right place... Bristol has had the best cannabis in the UK since 1589 
Later it was discovered that Liverpool had a deeper dock,, which meant bigger ships could be launched from there instead,, and a healthy trade in cannabis thrived along the Mersey.
"They banned Nature guys.. isn't this stupid" [Gypsy Nirvana]
Yeah that. In the UK it is legal to cultivate several plants which are known to be used in the production of harmful narcotics (Nicotiana and Papaver somniferum are just two examples),, yet it is illegal to grow Cannabis, a natural herb (which grows wild in the hedgerows of Dorset). Why is that?
peace
Later it was discovered that Liverpool had a deeper dock,, which meant bigger ships could be launched from there instead,, and a healthy trade in cannabis thrived along the Mersey.
"They banned Nature guys.. isn't this stupid" [Gypsy Nirvana]
Yeah that. In the UK it is legal to cultivate several plants which are known to be used in the production of harmful narcotics (Nicotiana and Papaver somniferum are just two examples),, yet it is illegal to grow Cannabis, a natural herb (which grows wild in the hedgerows of Dorset). Why is that?
peace
S
Silence
There are several UK activists that help to educate the BBC about cannabis, like Sarah Martin
I do NOT pay for a TV License because the viewing is poor and I do NOT support the Babylon System which the BBC prompts and represents in these times.
This is to say nothing about the BBCs media "control", and its religious, political, economic and educational manipulation of the masses.
Yeah ,, my ppl told the beeb to ****-off a few years ago! But that doesnt mean i n i hold any malice for this reporter / Bart man... this sort of thing really doesnt effect many of us these days because we dont watch TV,, or subscribe or aspire towards that lifestyle
Peace n flowers
I too do not pay my fee for various reasons, I find the BBC has gone down the murdoch like line with its reporting and its sensationalism.. oh and it keeps having Kelvin Mackenzie on its books a proven liar..... Give me C4 anyday of the week...
Kopite
S
Silence
Bart, location wise,,, you are in the right place... Bristol has had the best cannabis in the UK since 1589
Later it was discovered that Liverpool had a deeper dock,, which meant bigger ships could be launched from there instead,, and a healthy trade in cannabis thrived along the Mersey.
"They banned Nature guys.. isn't this stupid" [Gypsy Nirvana]
Yeah that. In the UK it is legal to cultivate several plants which are known to be used in the production of harmful narcotics (Nicotiana and Papaver somniferum are just two examples),, yet it is illegal to grow Cannabis, a natural herb (which grows wild in the hedgerows of Dorset). Why is that?
peace
And now with the docks we have the mexicans supplying lots of coke.. most of the hash comes via speke now.......
Kopite
S
Silence
Perhaps the makers of the docu could look at the price of sativex and the price of weed on the street.. see from an economic point of view which is the better/more viable product, would it be cheaper and better to create a market with chemists etc therefore creating jobs for growers etc or is it better to produce a fat profit for companies ???
Kopite
S
Silence
Or have R bacon he's on the Beeb payroll isn't he...
not sure I agree with that, some youngsters I know are from generations of unemployment (3rd gen) and harassment (police) they don't tell the police to fuck off for fun they do it with hatred!! can't say I blame them tbh, one lad I know is stopped (well its stopped recently, persume some powers have been stopped??? ) up to 2-3 times a day... I'm all for scallies and people with attitude....
Kopite
PrinceOfPersia
Active member
Thanks for your reply.
And ofcourse your 6 years counts, it tells me ure a semi rookie. No offence.
Maybe you could refer to some of what your director have had the last touch on and lets see what his 15yrs experiance have led him too.. Im definately curious, and it would be good for your case too..
The motherpart was stretching it a bit, was no personal thing though. But you know what i mean....
Im not hating you, i just have bad experiance with journalists, and its hard to believe otherwise when its been proven time after time..
What surprises most ppl working for the first time is that a journalist comes out like your friend and really can be a nice person. But in the end some 99% percent will see theyre story come out wrong/different/ or totally twisted using quotes and so on..
My oppinions are based on real life experiance, so this is no stereotype input..
sorry for the off topic, but this line was something I wanted to comment on... at first (in my usual slightly self righteous way) I chuckled and thought to myself "well opium poppies and coca of course, Gypsy"...
But then I realised something... the growing of poppies is not outlawed in the uk... it might well be legal to grow coca also .. and I'm guessing the illegality would arise when one tried to process these plants in order to ingest them as a "drug"....
so to echo Gypsy's question... "what other plants are illegal.....and why"? ... bloody good question it is too now that I realise I can legally grow opium and coke but not bud...(processing/ingestion aside)
edit - I see Doc covered this above, but still it begs the question...
C
cheesey
legal to grow Papaver somniferum poppies in the uk just illegal to process them without a licence.
. theres a handfull of farms doing this for meds for the nhs .
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i used to live in a place called hale village outside speke i bet you have smoked my stuff if thats where your getting it
S
Silence
No mate GMT might of..... Unless you where supplying a lot of bars ? used to have a m8 called witty though, he was a midget....
Doc-U-Maker
Member
Please aim to stick to the facts and ignore the distraction that stereotypes can easily generate
Most of us here would NOT encourage the path we ourselves in the UK were forced to take,, and would prefer a much more progressive/logical/open society surrounding cannabis,, were minors (under 15s) could be protected from any introduction to mind-altering substances until after tax-paying age (16+). At present prohibition prevents this... and fuels a black-market economy and trade that is rife amid our teens. And the government and agencies like the BBC which promote it are to blaim.
I'd like to re-iterate that appealing to young-growers to contact you is not fair on them or a fair sample of the cannabis cultivating demographic in the UK,, the majority of which are rational, free-thinking adults in most cases (not all).
Please note that any beef/negativity/discourse is aimed at the BBC and what it represents,, not you yourself as a fellow being Bart... so peace n love out,, erb, roots, culture,,, one love!
Hope this helps
dL
Note to IC folks : we might as well at least help to slowly educate representatives of the beeb (BBC) if/when/while they are here... rather than allegorically spitting flames at them... least this way we get to have our say... and it might slowly sink in
Personally we would NOT call the number,, that's
Thank you for the thoughts Mr. Leaf! We are trying to represent the views of the people you are talking about and hope you get to see it when it goes out in Feb.
Thanks for all the posts so far everyone. Really appreciate it.
This is the real question. Why is cannabis illegal?
To paraphrase our Dutch brothers and sisters (perhaps Wernard Bruining) in answer:
"If you smoke cannabis everyday, then gradually your perception of the world about you slowly changes. Governments and politicians are shit-scared of change... since it may breed free-thinking and revolution amid the people. This is the reason why cannabis remains illegal".
ALL drugs make people dumb!!! Although cannabis often makes people smarter... unless they smoke too much,, which makes them "muddy". Kids today are smoking only the strongest cannabis available,, which makes them muddy most of the time. If cannabis where decriminalized, then people could choose between being high / inspired (with sativa type cannabis),, or being muddy (with indica type cannabis)... and our youths would have difficulty obtaining cannabis full stop.
Prohibition also prevents freedom of choice and contradicts several UN Human Rights in the process.
Likewise nutty professors (assholes that arent even part of our community) have done us (the wider cannabis community) few favours in the past by regurgitating their empirical b/s over and over.
peace peace peace
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Another problem with prohibition is the production of...
Contaminated Cannabis - https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=42251
... the Irony Of It All
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwDRBm-qbQI
Contaminated Cannabis - https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=42251
... the Irony Of It All
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwDRBm-qbQI
