How do you pronounce the "X" in a cross like sk "X" nl

[mars_to_uranus]

I say "by".

This.

 

[Syd]

I use to read crosses with math terminology because in my language is the shortest/fastest way.

 

[Mudita]

it is whatever you want it to be bro. I'm sure no matter what you call it people will get it. and if you want to get technical there is definitely NO fuckin going on....

it is not times, no matter what 'some top breeders' say.

of course there is no fucking going on, that was part of the point of the facetious correction of MO's post.

its pollinated by! and fyi I know top breeders that say times.

convention, in the world of plant breeding is to list 'female x male', so i usually read it as "sk pollinated by nl" or "Sk by Nl"

of course I did not ever really think it meant 'fucked' at all, I was being comedic, just like Mo was.

I know several top breeders personally, and they agree 'by' or 'crossed by' is most correct, and I can't recall any of them using times.

it is breeding not algebra.


which top breeders say 'times'?

 

[Mudita]

I use to read crosses with math terminology because in my language is the shortest/fastest way.

if one was accustom to doing math alot, then it would be only natural to tendency toward reading it that away.

 

[Big D]

every post I have made in this thread with exception of the last one has been a joke.... this thread is a joke(no offense to the OP) I do not say times! I say crossed with! but I can not tell you the last time I actually had to pronounce the x. and as the OP stated there are videos of breeders saying times. I really could care LESS how anyone pronounces the x.!!! and who the fuck wants to study biology lol I focus on anatomy

 

[Mudita]

I would hope most breeders have a background in botany.
botany and anatomy are both branches of biology, no?



perhaps i misundrstand the OP's original intent, i thought he wanted to know what way was right not what ways were plausible.

 

[truecannabliss]

In an industry as young as ours i think it is rather important to clarify terminology in order to make things understandable for all.....i would tend to say the ''x'' would be said as ''by'' or ''crossed''.
Peace

 

[Syd]

if one was accustom to doing math alot, then it would be only natural to tendency toward reading it that away.

I think it's the pragmatic that every langage develops along the years and goes affecting the scientific terminologies that always need a synthetical and clear way to express.
If the subject is Biology, "by" clearly means "crossed" and not "multiplied" but "by" is more synthetical than "crossed to"

 

[Mudita]

I think it's the pragmatic that every langage develops along the years and goes affecting the scientific terminologies that always need a synthetical and clear way to express.

yes, but the origin of the use of that symbology in this manner is visual not mathematical. X looks like a cross, thus biologists use to symbolize crossing.

 

[Syd]

I agree with the origin, but we have to find how biologists prefer to phonetically express that symbol. My theory is that they'd choose the shortest way. Obviously it can be different in different languages.

 

[Big D]

botany and anatomy are both branches of biology, no?

yes you are correct! and the great thing about anatomy? I don't have to read alot... I get hands on training!
back to the discussion
the x in the equation signifies a cross so crossed with or crossed to are both acceptable but I do not think crossed by or simply by fits!

 

[Syd]

Probably they have official and slang words.

Is there a true certified botanist between all the breeders who write in this forum?

 

[Mudita]

know what...nevermind.

I'll keep saying by... you say whatever you like.

 

[Mudita]

Probably they have official and slang words.

Is there a true certified botanist between all the breeders who write in this forum?

Chimera

 

[Syd]

Yes, I thought about him few seconds after I posted

 

[Big D]

know what...nevermind.

I'll keep saying by... you say whatever you like.

I have just now officially joined the discussion lol and yes I would like to use correct grammar! thank you for correcting me... the way you put it makes sense.... I guess by does work!

 

[Cookie monster]

Well an X kinda looks like a cross so I always go with X=CROSS

Why people dont use the + symbol is a bit of a mystery?

 

[draztik]

If you want to get technical + is a cross and x is a criss like in xmas. But when describing a hybrid I still pronounce "x" as "crossed with".
For example one of my fav strains is NL#5 x Haze or NL#5 crossed with Haze.

 

[Big D]

every post I have made in this thread with exception of the last one has been a joke.... this thread is a joke(no offense to the OP) I do not say times! I say crossed with! but I can not tell you the last time I actually had to pronounce the x. and as the OP stated there are videos of breeders saying times. I really could care LESS how anyone pronounces the x.!!! and who the fuck wants to study biology lol I focus on anatomy

just to be clear... what I meant by this thread is a joke is all the fucked by... jizzed on type stuff not the topic! sorry IL!

 

[Mudita]

If you want to get technical + is a cross and x is a criss like in xmas. But when describing a hybrid I still pronounce "x" as "crossed with".
For example one of my fav strains is NL#5 x Haze or NL#5 crossed with Haze.

I'll keep saying nl5 by haze.

from the dictionary

X 1 |eks| (also x)
noun ( pl. Xs or X's )
1 the twenty-fourth letter of the alphabet.
• denoting the next after W in a set of items, categories, etc.
• denoting an unknown or unspecified person or thing : there is nothing in the data to tell us whether X causes Y or Y causes X.
• ( x) (used in describing play in bridge) denoting an unspecified card other than an honor.
• (usu. x ) the first unknown quantity in an algebraic expression, usually the independent variable. [ORIGIN: the introduction of x, y, and z as symbols of unknown quantities is due to Descartes ( Géométrie, 1637), who took z as the first unknown and then proceeded backward in the alphabet.]
• (usu. x ) denoting the principal or horizontal axis in a system of coordinates : [in combination ] the x -axis.
2 a cross-shaped written symbol, in particular
• used to indicate a position on a map or diagram.
• used to indicate a mistake or incorrect answer.
• used in a letter or message to symbolize a kiss.
• used to indicate one's vote on a paper ballot.
• used in place of the signature of a person who cannot write.
3 a shape like that of a letter X : two wires in the form of an X | [in combination ] an X-shaped cross.
4 the Roman numeral for ten.

X is used in Xmas because the greek letter X (Chi) is the first letter of the greek christos and is symbolic of christ's cross, not because it is a 'criss'.

also from the dictionary:

Xmas |ˈkrisməs; ˈeksməs|
noun informal term for Christmas .
ORIGIN X representing the initial chi of Greek Khristos ‘Christ.’

criss is not even in the dictionary.