High Temps in DWC/Bubble Bucket

[michigan.mmma]

There was a thread i read that i cannot find now where a person was running DWC/bubble bucket and had temps in the buckets over 80 degrees. he had no root issues and his plants looked great. he added a supplement since the heat was high to prevent root rot but i cannot remember what it is and i cannot find the thread. i believe he was using cannazym but again i cannot remember.

so the question is, what can i do about my own high temps in the buckets? i am on my first try with the buckets and have 2 plants that have been flowering since 8/23 and they look great. Also have 2 in veg that are about 18" tall and look great also. everything has bright white roots, no slime or foul smell.

two days ago, i went into the veg room and there was a smell i dont remember noticing before. it was a little foul - i checked the ph of the buckets in there and they were about 4.9-5.0 and had dropped from 5.8. it had been about 10 days since i changed the water so i changed it right away. everything still looks great and ph is fine now. i dont notice the smell anymore either.

when i first started with the DWC buckets, i bought some cannazym but i have used it all since(also just running lucas formula only at this point) So my question is, if someone knows of this thread - please give me a link or if you know of a product or solution for dealing with the high temps, let me know.

i really don't have a way to lower the temps in my room - its hot in there. i only tried the DWC buckets b/c i saw this person running it with high heat so i figure i would try it. (My room temps are high 80s) or is it possible to just change the water out every 7 days and leave it with just lucas formula?

Thanks in advance!!

 

[jm420]

I Think the key to it using lucas only,I might be wrong but i think freezerboy had the same results with high temps.Once i used hygrozyme root rot went rampid.Straight lucas no probs

 

[FreezerBoy]

I thought you were talking about me until you mentioned additives. While I have done high temp DWC, I AVOIDED all additives, especially anything organic. Most of the rot, slime, algae problems I've read about all have "kitchen sink" recipes where the "preventatives" CAUSE the problem.

While I abandoned the diary after temps dropped too low to continue the experiment, you can read as far as it goes here.

 

[jm420]

Thats what I meant F/B no additives Just gh bloom and micro

 

[Haps]

FB also was using water straight from the tap, with the chlorine still in it, I am of the opinion that the chlorine saved his roots. I have been experementing with adding tap to my reses this summer, and confirm it helps keep roots healthy during high heat days, but you gotta have constant air too.

 

[jm420]

I also use tap and I agree 02 is key

 

[jm420]

chlorine? hmmmm .very well could be .I had a conversation with a guy today he was of the same opinion

 

[Japanfreakier]

cannazym should work. Also I read a guy that used little pills they sold at pet stores to treat aquarium water and kill bacteria. The grower claimed it sold all his root rot problems but I cant remember the thread or the name of the product

 

[gdtrfb]

i can't say what experimenting i did this summer was anything more than that, but i just chopped two trees out of 5g bucket dwc setups that regularly saw 80+ degree res temps

all along, i kept expecting horrible calamity, but didn't see it - using RO w/ just maxibloom/grow w/ calmag+ throughout - and up to the cut, they remained crispy white happy roots

again, not saying surviving one summer means i've got it all figured out - just that 'keep it simple, add less instead of more' worked well enough that i'll continue trying in that direction.

 

[FreezerBoy]

FB also was using water straight from the tap, with the chlorine still in it, I am of the opinion that the chlorine saved his roots. I have been experementing with adding tap to my reses this summer, and confirm it helps keep roots healthy during high heat days, but you gotta have constant air too.

Haps re-cap is spot on. FWIW my 12 gal of nutes were aerated with a pump rated at 60 gal, so, Lot's-O-Air indeed.

 

[skotty]

have to say that the chlorine in tapwater does help keep a healthy res providing your waters ppm isnt to high i cant see a problem in using it,

also a good root stimulator used through out the grow will help keep your roots healthy and excularator from house and garden is meant to coat your roots in a film so this stops any attacks from root rot but it is expensive stuff and i think there is alterenatives available

the only other thing is you gotta be carefull what your putting in your res a lot of people swear by h2o2 but if you have enough air being pumped into your system then this really shouldnt be needed and it can also have diverse effects when used with cannazym and other nutrients

h2o2 is a bleach so it will kill all bacteria including the beneficial ones thats why i avoid it at all costs and try and grow with a good set of nutrients and root stimulator

changing out your res weekly will also help if you have high temps at least that way you are replacing the warm water with fully oxygentaed fresh water

its always better to pump more air into the bucket than what is needed for example if you have a 20 ltr bucket use a pump that pushes 30 ltrs per minute because as the temps rise dissolved oxygen becomes less in the water so having the extra air being pumped into the res will benefit your roots

i notice you said that your temps are 80 degrees and my temps are also 80 degrees as i grow with led's but my res temps are 69-70 degrees and the only thing i use is 5 gallon buckets

all the above can help you grow with high res temps

hope this helps

peace

 

[michigan.mmma]

thanks everyone for the feedback!

japanfreakier:i have seen people use the aquarium products and even read about people using rid-x for septic tanks for the bacteria and enzymes. i have never seen any tests/pics or even recommended dosages though.

gdtrfb: glad to see it will work. im only adding gh micro & bloom and ph down with tap water so im keeping it as simple as possible.

FB: thanks for the link. not sure how i missed that thread???

my temps are reading 80 in the buckets in one room and about 83 in the warmer room. all the roots are bright white so im going to ride it out like this and see what happens. this was just an experiment anyway to see if i could run these bubble buckets in my high heat environment.

how often should i change the water/nutes out?

 

[michigan.mmma]

skotty: i see you answered already i need to change once a week. Thanks

also to clarify- my res temps are 80 and 83 in the actual buckets and on a meat thermometer that is probably not very accurate. at plant level the ambient temps are about 89 today - less at the floor and they are right on concrete underground.

 

[skotty]

skotty: i see you answered already i need to change once a week. Thanks

also to clarify- my res temps are 80 and 83 in the actual buckets and on a meat thermometer that is probably not very accurate. at plant level the ambient temps are about 89 today - less at the floor and they are right on concrete underground.

you wouldnt normally have to change the res once a week under ideal growing conditions but given your high res temps then i would strongly advise it as you are keeping problems to a minimum