Joint and roach handling methods.

[fred b]

i really dont get how you can smoke a spliff without a "filter". I use a cardboard tube rolled to a whirl so nothing falls through when i take a big puff or preferably active carbon filters.



greets
fred b

 

[Baba Ku]

It's a cultural thang.
See, back in prehistoric times, having your own set of hemos was a right of passage for every pot head in the US. It was a status symbol. One often displayed in public, as it would be common to see a persons hemos hanging from their rear view, or maybe even from there belt loop. If you didn't have a nice pair, you wanted one.
Many a Dr's visit netted a pair.

The way we partake in weed is for sure culturally driven. No real one reason behind it, but perhaps a whole host of reasons why. Look at it like soccer (footbol, fussbal, wtf) it has never really caught on in the US, nor will it ever. Not to the level that it is enjoyed in other parts of the world. The US simply does not and will not get soccer. It's a cultural thing, and has only a little bit to do with how the game is actually played and all it's intricacies.

Some may find the way Americans reject methods that seem utterly logical to you, baffling. Like the "roach" as the brits call it. It will never be more than a novelty way to smoke a joint in the US. The regular cigarette roll will never really be replaced as the preffered method of mobile pot heads.

Or go to any area of the US, not one of those areas will it be common to put hash in tobacco to smoke it, yet that is a common practice in other cultures.
Hash alone is another thing that has ever been a big part of the cannabis culture in the US. Oh sure we enjoy it very much, some of us more than others. But the mainstream knows little to nothing about it at all.

Very nice keeper clip, minds I!

 

[RoachClip]

I have Hemostats from tiny to x large for tieing and making flies when fly fishing and they work great but years ago we use to go buy the alligator clips and get some dice & heat the end of the clip with a torch and push it into the dice and make cheap cool roach clips we also did the same thing with radio antennas so they could extend and retract just things you did when you was a stoner kid.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I hold my joint with my fingers.......they're always right there when I need them and they do the job so well!

Give it a try! lmfao

Seriously though, why don't you guys just use a rolled up piece of card for a roach like the rest of the civilised world does? We use them for a reason guys, because they WORK.
You don't get left with a chunk of unsmoked weed from every single joint and you don't need a drawer of fukin utensils just to hold it without burning your fingers.

I love using nothing but my fingers... it makes me feel self sufficient.




I hate the idea of cardboard getting smoked or even heated... I know what is in my herb.

George I haven't seen you in FOREVER... it's good to see a familiar face

Indians!!

 

[Panoramical]

It's a cultural thang.
See, back in prehistoric times, having your own set of hemos was a right of passage for every pot head in the US. It was a status symbol. One often displayed in public, as it would be common to see a persons hemos hanging from their rear view, or maybe even from there belt loop. If you didn't have a nice pair, you wanted one.
Many a Dr's visit netted a pair.

The way we partake in weed is for sure culturally driven. No real one reason behind it, but perhaps a whole host of reasons why. Look at it like soccer (footbol, fussbal, wtf) it has never really caught on in the US, nor will it ever. Not to the level that it is enjoyed in other parts of the world. The US simply does not and will not get soccer. It's a cultural thing, and has only a little bit to do with how the game is actually played and all it's intricacies.

Some may find the way Americans reject methods that seem utterly logical to you, baffling. Like the "roach" as the brits call it. It will never be more than a novelty way to smoke a joint in the US. The regular cigarette roll will never really be replaced as the preffered method of mobile pot heads.

Or go to any area of the US, not one of those areas will it be common to put hash in tobacco to smoke it, yet that is a common practice in other cultures.
Hash alone is another thing that has ever been a big part of the cannabis culture in the US. Oh sure we enjoy it very much, some of us more than others. But the mainstream knows little to nothing about it at all.

Very nice keeper clip, minds I!

Interesting post. I didn't know the smoking culture differs so much between USA and EU.

I heard you don't get king size papers? Is that right?

 

[ThePizzaMan]

The whole Hemostat thing is very intersting. What time period was this popular in...the 60's through the 70's?

Pretty cool.

 

[Baba Ku]

More early/mid 70's to early 80's for the hemo rage.

hehehe, we could discuss the intricacies of American smoking for quite a while.
Most Americans that smoke joints will be of two different camps. One does not like the taste of paper at all, and will opt for the smallest and thinnest cigarette papers they can find. A single sized rice paper is usually the choice.
Many do not choose these size and type of papers because of one reason...they can't roll well. Many will opt for the 1.5 or jumbo sized papers simply because it helps them with their rolling.
You will never find novelty type papers like cones and such in the mainstream in America. Those are only novelties that can only be found in head shops and other places of cannabis curiosities.

Seems we have always masked anything cannabis to be like tobacco. In fact, it is what the assumption is to be..that all of the products you see at a head shop is indeed for use with legal tobacco. In fact, if you visit a head shop in may states (if they still have them) you don't even want to mention the word pot, or cannabis, or anything that even eludes to weed. If you do utter these words and they are heard by management, they will not say one more word to you at all, and will hand you a calling card that states something like;
"We believe that you are trying to purchase our merchandise for illegal use or for use will illegal products, and we are asking you to leave our establishment immediately".
The workers are instructed to say nothing, and to not confront you at all after giving you the card. They won't even say good day, or fuck you.
But if you don't leave immediately, the will call leo. Not because they are red, but because they are afraid YOU are leo checking up on them and their procedures.

 

[ThePizzaMan]

More early/mid 70's to early 80's for the hemo rage.

hehehe, we could discuss the intricacies of American smoking for quite a while.
Most Americans that smoke joints will be of two different camps. One does not like the taste of paper at all, and will opt for the smallest and thinnest cigarette papers they can find. A single sized rice paper is usually the choice.
Many do not choose these size and type of papers because of one reason...they can't roll well. Many will opt for the 1.5 or jumbo sized papers simply because it helps them with their rolling.
You will never find novelty type papers like cones and such in the mainstream in America. Those are only novelties that can only be found in head shops and other places of cannabis curiosities.

Seems we have always masked anything cannabis to be like tobacco. In fact, it is what the assumption is to be..that all of the products you see at a head shop is indeed for use with legal tobacco. In fact, if you visit a head shop in may states (if they still have them) you don't even want to mention the word pot, or cannabis, or anything that even eludes to weed. If you do utter these words and they are heard by management, they will not say one more word to you at all, and will hand you a calling card that states something like;
"We believe that you are trying to purchase our merchandise for illegal use or for use will illegal products, and we are asking you to leave our establishment immediately".
The workers are instructed to say nothing, and to not confront you at all after giving you the card. They won't even say good day, or fuck you.
But if you don't leave immediately, the will call leo. Not because they are red, but because they are afraid YOU are leo checking up on them and their procedures.

Thanks Baba!

 

[Stoner4Life]

Forefinger.

Thumb.

Done.

exactly, person passing releases his own thumb from the grip and at the same time presses the roach into the receivers thumb with enough holding pressure to allow the receivers forefinger to come up & complete grip, simple & an easy way to detect a newbie who's all thumbs.......

 

[Tommy Trichome]

It's a cultural thang.
See, back in prehistoric times, having your own set of hemos was a right of passage for every pot head in the US. It was a status symbol. One often displayed in public, as it would be common to see a persons hemos hanging from their rear view, or maybe even from there belt loop. If you didn't have a nice pair, you wanted one.
Many a Dr's visit netted a pair.

The way we partake in weed is for sure culturally driven. No real one reason behind it, but perhaps a whole host of reasons why. Look at it like soccer (footbol, fussbal, wtf) it has never really caught on in the US, nor will it ever. Not to the level that it is enjoyed in other parts of the world. The US simply does not and will not get soccer. It's a cultural thing, and has only a little bit to do with how the game is actually played and all it's intricacies.

Some may find the way Americans reject methods that seem utterly logical to you, baffling. Like the "roach" as the brits call it. It will never be more than a novelty way to smoke a joint in the US. The regular cigarette roll will never really be replaced as the preffered method of mobile pot heads.

Or go to any area of the US, not one of those areas will it be common to put hash in tobacco to smoke it, yet that is a common practice in other cultures.
Hash alone is another thing that has ever been a big part of the cannabis culture in the US. Oh sure we enjoy it very much, some of us more than others. But the mainstream knows little to nothing about it at all.

Very nice keeper clip, minds I!

I guess we've got a lot of European influence in the SF Bay Area because almost everyone I know rolls backwards with thin papers and a crutch. Some are pure cannabis, some are cannabis/tobacco, some are cannabis/tobacco/hash, and some are the classic Euro spliff of hash/tobacco. The only people I know that roll regular American style (or the "Nor-Cal Grower Fatty" style) are older folks and outdoor growers.. Personally, I prefer the backwards thin paper crutched pure-ies

 

[Baba Ku]

Well yes it could very well be that I am caught up in somewhat of a generational vortex.
I know that kids around here like to pack perfectly good weed into nasty cigar tubes and such. But for sure the "crutches" are nay popular.
I highly doubt that even 10% of the cannabis population around here even knows where to look for hash, and a majority of that 10% probably bubbles their own. Just never has been a big part of our culture.

 

[mellow yellow]

Roach everytime might even put a wiggit in if my green got a bit dry
on the US thing...
I remember having a very hard time finding papers on a trip to Boston a good few years ago, could not find papers anywhere (tried petrol stations, supermarkets etc) nightmare !!!
Ended up in a housing estate found a little shop (say shop 2 boxes and a plank of wood for the counter bout 6 big guys chillin in there no visable products to be sold) he had some skins no real big ones but i know how to stick - happy days.

 

[phrike]

So I figure at least some of the readers here won't know the origin of the term "ROACH":

BTW, I get a laugh every time I hear La_Cucaracha in a old Looney Toons cartoon, like the crazy/lazy crows or Speedy Gonzales:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roach_(cannabis_culture)
...
The word "roach" entered American English from a Mexican Spanish slang word for marijuana, or a cigarette stub of marijuana, or tobacco adulterated with marijuana: cucaracha ("cockroach"; see also the folk song La Cucaracha.) In Spanish, tabaco de cucaracha refers to adulterated tobacco generally.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Cucaracha (Among many variations of lyrics
...
Spanish
La cucaracha, la cucaracha,
ya no puede caminar
porque no tiene, porque le falta
marijuana pa' fumar.

English
The cockroach, the cockroach,
can't walk anymore
because it doesn't have, because it's lacking
marijuana to smoke.

 

[grasspass]

If you grow weed , why would you save the little bit of weed left at the end of a joint? I just got back into joints, [even though in an earlier thread I said I didn't use them], because they are disposable and you don't need a pipe. For me the roach or weed on the end is the filter and it gets thrown away.

 

[Haps]

I got several hemos, but like a dental tool better, mostly I use hollow stems, joint pipes. I keep hollow stems at harvest and cut them to whatever lengtht the hole is good to 8, 10, 15 inches.

I wish there was a recycling center, hate to toss roaches, but I ain't ever gonna smoke them either.

 

[Mezz Mezzrow]

I got several hemos, but like a dental tool better, mostly I use hollow stems, joint pipes. I keep hollow stems at harvest and cut them to whatever lengtht the hole is good to 8, 10, 15 inches.

I wish there was a recycling center, hate to toss roaches, but I ain't ever gonna smoke them either.

Nice idea.

 

[Magic Man]

Small stick split in the middle, wedge roach in. Toss when your done