What can we do about Climate Change?

[sac beh]

You cannot separate global warming/environmental degradation from overpopulation.
The one causes the others.
Why do people not want to talk about population control?

No one has tried to avoid the issue of overpopulation. In fact GH, myself, and others have said that population is a factor in the discussion. ibjamming is talking about population control defined as the hoped for or deliberate removal of half the world's population, the poorer, lazy half (his definition). Its off topic and inflammatory.

Other than that, population is certainly a factor in these environmental issues which affect climate change. But talking about solutions based on the scientific data showing causes of climate change, there are much more effective solutions to address before having to resort to merely reduce the number of people whose actions contribute to the problem.

 

[RetroGrow]

No one has tried to avoid the issue of overpopulation. In fact GH, myself, and others have said that population is a factor in the discussion. ibjamming is talking about population control defined as the hoped for or deliberate removal of half the world's population, the poorer, lazy half (his definition). Its off topic and inflammatory.

Other than that, population is certainly a factor in these environmental issues which affect climate change. But talking about solutions based on the scientific data showing causes of climate change, there are much more effective solutions to address before having to resort to merely reduce the number of people whose actions contribute to the problem.

Overpopulation is much more than a "factor".
It is the direct cause.
And people have avoided the issue:
Our president, and other world leaders won't say a word about it. It's a forbidden topic, politically. Totally taboo.
So, I would call that avoiding the issue, even as the problem progresses geometrically.
I find it bizarre really. A topic that is totally taboo.

 

[guest456mpy]

More than likely, nature will cull us with another plague...

We don't need to help.

/jk

 

[sac beh]

Overpopulation is much more than a "factor".
It is the direct cause.

Let's see some reasoning and/or evidence to back up these statements, then.

Population--the number of people alive--can never be more than an aggravating factor. Why? Because it is possible for there to be the same world population without climate change. If the whole population was doing a couple daily activities differently, the planet would not be warming. This proves that the mere number of actors can't be "the direct cause", but rather their actions are. There are lots of links above in this thread outlining the scientific data that shows why climate is changing and what human actions directly cause them. Population is a red herring here.

 

[maryj315]

No...I'm spewing MY talking points...

Actually, when Israel bulldozes...they're clearing their OWN land. You see right after the UN gave them their independence, and mapped out the Jewish/Arab boundaries, they were attacked...from all sides...including from within by the Palestinians. Well the Israelis won the war...in my mind, they're entitled to all the land they won. The UN says no...but fuck them. So, I believe Israel can do whatever they want with ALL of Israel. FUCK the Palestinians. They remind me of our own people living in the inner cities who don't want to "play the game" they live their way and expect US to go along with it...and take care of them. Again, I say let them starve. If I take care of you...you better fucking show some respect...if not...there's the door! I say the same to EVERYONE with their hand out. I'll help, under MY terms...take it or leave it. What we do now is keep giving and they keep fucking with us.

Better an Armageddon now, only affecting the poor...then wait for the BIG Armageddon when EVERYONE is starving! If you can't keep up, if you can't take care of your self...well then, go home and quietly die. Because I'm sick and tired of working hard and having it taken from me and given to you.

Why does "my" living well MAKE me owe anyone else anything? You want stuff? Figure out a way to earn it yourself...don't expect someone else to give it to you.

You're a woman...you're born with an "entitlement" instinct...that's why you want equality for everyone...it's been GIVEN to you. How about we ALL earn our equality instead of having the government force it down everyone's throat?



That's what I think too...

The anarchy that would arise from such actions would be a security risk to all nations. Desperate people are easy prey for someone who might have evil intentions. My reference to Israel was used only to make this point.

While I respect your honesty, all you have put fourth is midterm election candy that gets people like yourself and others all in a clusterfuck of ignorance and hate.
Btw, I am not a woman so your theory of entitlement instinct does not apply.
I simply cannot understand why you would choose millions of people dying instead of better management of resources.

Mj

 

[ibjamming]

Overpopulation is much more than a "factor".
It is the direct cause.
And people have avoided the issue:
Our president, and other world leaders won't say a word about it. It's a forbidden topic, politically. Totally taboo.
So, I would call that avoiding the issue, even as the problem progresses geometrically.
I find it bizarre really. A topic that is totally taboo.

Exactly! If we had 1,000 people in the US we could all live like kings, doing whatever we want...and we wouldn't make a dent in our resources and pollution...add a few million more and you can still pull it off...add a few BILLION and everything get's fucked up.

Believe me...there are MANY more things that are killing us that is taboo to talk about... We're killing ourselves with kindness. Trying to be nice and tolerant is dragging us into the sewer.

Let's see some reasoning and/or evidence to back up these statements, then.

Population--the number of people alive--can never be more than an aggravating factor. Why? Because it is possible for there to be the same world population without climate change. If the whole population was doing a couple daily activities differently, the planet would not be warming. This proves that the mere number of actors can't be "the direct cause", but rather their actions are. There are lots of links above in this thread outlining the scientific data that shows why climate is changing and what human actions directly cause them. Population is a red herring here.

Back to everyone living in huts like Jamaicans huh? give it up OK...quit saying the same thing over and over and over again...get a new song to sing! Sound familiar?

Doing WHAT differently? No driving? No A/C or heat? No electricity? No meat?

Your logic...doesn't exist... You're a walking non sequitur. If you throw 100,000 people on a small island...what will happen? If you throw 2 people on the same island...what will happen? A HUGE difference...agreed? Same with a planet...you can have a billion or two with no problems but 9-10 billion is too many.

Why can't girls be more logical in their thinking? Why can't you see the relationship?

 

[sac beh]

Exactly! If we had 1,000 people in the US we could all live like kings, doing whatever we want...and we wouldn't make a dent in our resources and pollution...add a few million more and you can still pull it off...add a few BILLION and everything get's fucked up.

Stop spamming the thread with off-topic content that has already been posted and responded to.

Believe me...there are MANY more things that are killing us that is taboo to talk about... We're killing ourselves with kindness. Trying to be nice and tolerant is dragging us into the sewer.

Stop spamming the thread with off-topic content that has already been posted and responded to.

Back to everyone living in huts like Jamaicans huh? give it up OK...quit saying the same thing over and over and over again...get a new song to sing! Sound familiar?

No one said this except you.

 

[ibjamming]

Stop spamming the thread with off-topic content that has already been posted and responded to.



Stop spamming the thread with off-topic content that has already been posted and responded to.



No one said this except you.

You call it spam because you don't want to talk about it...it is THE reason we're in trouble...and the troubles go WAY past global warming. Overpopulation and population densities cause all sorts of human ills.

I don't usually waste my time like this...but I'll retort...

Jamaica: You posted...

You still haven't read the studies I linked to to support my point have you?
http://www.happyplanetindex.org/publ...-index-2-0.pdf
The study combines the 3 data--life expectancy, life satisfaction, environmental footprint--to rank countries. Get it? So while the US has a slighter higher life expectancy than some, the life satisfaction measured is moderate, and its environmental footprint is so off the charts that it moves to the bottom of the list. I'm not talking about Africa, never was. You're obsessed with Africa because you're obsessed with mis-informed, racially-motivated stereotypes of world demographics. You won't convince anybody of these ideas by changing the parameters of discussion like a slight-of-hand magician who slips in Africa in place of Latin America, in order that the discussion of Latin America comes out in his favor.

I beg you, don't respond again to me unless you've read the studies I'm referencing and can develop an informed response to them. Again: Costa Rica, Jamaica, Dominican Republic and Guatemala are the top 4 countries in the world in a study that combined the measurements above.

The minorities you attempt to blame come from these countries. This data, as well as others provided, threaten your whole racist world view. Yes, racist: making blanket statements about races or colors of people without any evidence, believing your own race to be inherently superior, slandering whole groups of people in opposition to the evidence as a way to deal with some trauma that you've perhaps experienced, concocting race-based divisions between "us" and "them" in order to have some enemy to blame for your own personal failures and fears.

This is IC mag, man. Its an international community. There are many non-white people, minorities, people of lower economic class than you who are members here. I'm certain that the testimony of many of them would completely shatter your beliefs. I can tolerate someone challenging the ideas in this thread about Climate Change with data and research, but you're not even on topic. You are over the top in your disrespect for the community at large. Its the one rare case where I would encourage the Mods to take action. And leave us to discuss solutions.

You are quite enamored with Jamaica...you've mentioned it several times. Admit it...it's a place that you want to see the US emulate. So whom is spamming whom? Nobody here wants the US to be like Jamaica...except you.

And as for "disrespect"...I show neither respect nor disrespect...I simply state what "I" think IS the main problem and how to solve it. You've given us...studies... Gratefulhead has given us some SMALL experimental projects that have NO HOPE of EVER supplying us with CHEAP energy in the quantities we use now...a BILLION gallons a DAY just for gasoline replacement. NOTHING that ANYONE has EVER come up with (that doesn't use more energy to make as it gives back when burned) comes close to what you get from oil.

You can't run all the cars on electricity either. Imagine the electrical grid strain when everyone comes home from work and plugs in their car...talk about a brownout. Oh, you mean we should double the whole electrical grid too? you got a few trillion there buddy?

Replacing oil with ANYTHING that humans can think of right now is a fantasy. Unless you can "turn water into gasoline Jesus", or turn sand into gasoline...you're up shits creek...because there aren't any other raw ingredients in enough abundance to make a BILLION gallons EACH DAY.

NOTHING you, I, or anyone comes up with will solve the problem of an exponentially expanding population.

OK...you're against population control...so the population keeps rising. WHEN will you be willing to talk about population control? Never? 100 billion people won't bother you? 1 trillion?

There IS a limit...and someday that limit WILL be reached. We have finite space and resources...when is enough enough? I say we're there already...PAST it in Africa...and it has been for at least the last 40 years. The planet will be Africa if we don't stop overpopulation. I keep bringing it up because it's happening there...we can see what overpopulation does... YET YOU REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT!!!

My truth...like "your" lies...if I say it enough, maybe you'll believe it.

Have a nice day...

 

[sac beh]

You call it spam because you don't want to talk about it...it is THE reason we're in trouble...and the troubles go WAY past global warming. Overpopulation and population densities cause all sorts of human ills.

I call it spam because its the same statement posted over and over without evidence or reasoning to back it up. And you keep repeating it after multiple respectful requests to either back up your statements or stop repeating them. I've given you reasons why I don't want to talk about overpopulation. Its off topic, isn't supported by the data, and in your most inflammatory moments has become racist and offensive.

Drop the Jamaica obsession. I quoted a study which includes Jamaica in its rankings. If you have a problem with the study, show us, show us where their data is wrong, and give us an alternative.

Could the OP please report these posts? If this sort of behavior can't be reported than the IC mag guidelines mean nothing. I'm done with this thread, ibjamming has ruined it.

 

[ibjamming]

I call it spam because its the same statement posted over and over without evidence or reasoning to back it up. And you keep repeating it after multiple respectful requests to either back up your statements or stop repeating them. I've given you reasons why I don't want to talk about overpopulation. Its off topic, isn't supported by the data, and in your most inflammatory moments has become racist and offensive.

Drop the Jamaica obsession. I quoted a study which includes Jamaica in its rankings. If you have a problem with the study, show us, show us where their data is wrong, and give us an alternative.

Could the OP please report these posts? If this sort of behavior can't be reported than the IC mag guidelines mean nothing. I'm done with this thread, ibjamming has ruined it.

OK...sure...actually, I thought I've been doing that all along...

Jamaica DOESN'T have a greater life expectency...the US is 38 and Jamaica is 88. Minorities also skew the US data, they have a much higher mortality rate than whites...which would put us up with the other mostly white European countries. Or can't I say that? So, that's one point for the US, not Jamaica.

As for "happiness index"... What CAN I say? Talk about subjective... I guess you've never been there huh? When I was there a few years ago...the people lined the streets begging. Children swarmed you...begging. Is living in a shack and begging food "happy"? Maybe, if you smoke enough weed. And there is the problem...failure to self control...you know, smoke AFTER the work is done? I'm pretty happy here in the US...I bet I'm happier than the average Jamaican. How about you? Ever seen one? A Jamaican in Jamaica? Another point for the US?

What's the other...oh..."environmental footprint"...sure, we'll agree there. Jamaica has a very low carbon footprint or environmental impact...whatever it is you're measuring. you know why? There isn't a fucking thing there! Besides the resorts, there's nothing there but huts.

I WANT stuff. You can call me selfish...go ahead. But I'm not giving up my life...my stuff...my comforts, so starving people can have more kids. I'll send them the pill before I send any more food. When THEY get their population under control...and half aren't begging and starving...we'll talk about help. At least they'll learn that the free ride is over...they're expected to help.

I'm cold...as ice sometimes...when a problem needs solving...and this one does. Big problems require big solutions sometimes. Tough solutions. Unpopular solutions!

What's your LONG TERM solution? Keep looking for energy alternatives? What if I'm right and there ISN'T any? Nothing reasonable anyway. What then? And...do you have ANY idea what it will cost to reconvert the worlds energy complex to something else?

You're a dreamer...a young, naive, idealist. You have ideas but none of the technical expertise to separate the wheat from the chaff. You don't have the wisdom that comes from seeing the same shit over and over and over. Meet he new boss, same as the old boss rings as true as ever. We're being played by people who want to make money through industry and at the same time by people who make money from "environmentalism". There's always some great catastrophe right around the corner. They keep you scared and protected. Wake up kid!

Both sides are full of shit as far as what they tell us about what the future will bring...and NOBODY knows for sure. You think it's going to be this way and I think that. But I do know that someday, even people like you will realize...there's too many damn people!

PLEASE...pretty please...put me on ignore if you don't like what I have to say. Or you know...you could always exercise some of that self control I'm asking people for...and force yourself not to read it! Instead of CENSORING me...which is what you REALLY want anyway. It's the liberal way...

 

[sac beh]

And now I'm getting negative Rep? Am I in bizarro world where trolls who post off-topic and inflammatory content over and over get to close threads left and right and no one defends the idea of rational discussion?

 

[ibjamming]

And now I'm getting negative Rep? Am I in bizarro world where trolls who post off-topic and inflammatory content over and over get to close threads left and right and no one defends the idea of rational discussion?

Whoa! it wasn't me and I never said a word to anyone. I got negative rep from some pansy ass too...probably not this thread though. I don't play that way.

I think it may be because you REFUSE to discuss MY position...and only your own...AND...the worst part is...you want me shut down...silenced. Which IS the worst part.

A rational discussion means that I get a turn too...because YOU are NOT right this time. We need population control as much if not more than we need something to replace oil. We'd use half as much with half the people. REMEMBER...there IS a future with even more people, all looking to live like the west.

Instead of fighting me...join me! And REALLY save the world! Population growth must stop. Millions must be allowed to die to get their populations back to sustainable levels. I keep saying it because it MUST happen for a long term fix. your "solution" is just ANOTHER band-aid.

I'll give you a positive to make up for it...feel better?

 

[In~Plain~Site]

And now I'm getting negative Rep? Am I in bizarro world where trolls who post off-topic and inflammatory content over and over get to close threads left and right and no one defends the idea of rational discussion?

I negative repped your ass.

Because it wasn't the first time you tried to quell a dissenting position with that "report to the mods" pvssy bullshit.

There are just way too many assholes on this site that must love to hear themselves speak.

Guess what? Just because you feel important, doesn't make it so.

 

[sac beh]

You can insult me all you want. It doesn't change the fact that you post off-topic content to this thread. Its false that anything short of anarchy = quelling dissenting opinion. Reporting posts that interfere with an otherwise respectful discussion should be the job of the OP. So if he finds the hit-and-run, racist, repetitive content valuable to his thread, so be it.

 

[ibjamming]

You can insult me all you want. It doesn't change the fact that you post off-topic content to this thread. Its false that anything short of anarchy = quelling dissenting opinion. Reporting posts that interfere with an otherwise respectful discussion should be the job of the OP. So if he finds the hit-and-run, racist, repetitive content valuable to his thread, so be it.

Then let THEM decide...don't be that sneaky little girl we all hated who used to whisper in the teachers ear...you snitch!

Actually, you're the only one spamming...telling us we're spamming.

So come on...we need a CHEAP, non-polluting, replacement for gasoline...a billion gallons a day...and we need it YESTERDAY! Get a move on it...

I want to hear YOUR solution...not an endless stream of links to studies. do you get others to cut your meat too? I don't want their ideas...I want yours. Or are you a "studies organizer" with no talent of their own? Show me what's in that brain. And you're going to lose me RIGHT AWAY if you say I have to start living like a Jamaican, or a Guatemalan...I'm warning you.

Like I said...you and your ilk are the worst form of hypocrite...telling everyone else what is "right" and how to live...while you jet around the world ala Al Gore. Yeah right...low carbon footprint and a big private jet. I bet your A/C is keeping you cool right now. Bet you got a nice 24" screen there too...and the latest gaming computer? 1000W power supply? Got that refer filled with goodies? What do you drive? WHY do you drive?

No, if you want to convince me to cut back...you better have already done it. I want someone else to relay messages to/from you via a runner. THEN you'll have my respect and I won't see you as just another nobody screaming at people they don't agree with...or worse...shutting them down by crying to moderators.

Take home message...practice what you preach or your just a hypocrite.

So...let's hear your solution to global warming.

I think you may take these discussions a little too seriously.

I wish you the best...

 

[In~Plain~Site]

You can insult me all you want. It doesn't change the fact that you post off-topic content to this thread. Its false that anything short of anarchy = quelling dissenting opinion. Reporting posts that interfere with an otherwise respectful discussion should be the job of the OP. So if he finds the hit-and-run, racist, repetitive content valuable to his thread, so be it.

Nanny-nanny, boo-boo...It's my ball ball and I'm going home. Is that really what you want to sound like?

Racist content?

Stop drinking the kool-aid for a second and point out the racist content...please.

Then let THEM decide...don't be that sneaky little girl we all hated who used to whisper in the teachers ear...you snitch!

Actually, you're the only one spamming...telling us we're spamming.

So come on...we need a CHEAP, non-polluting, replacement for gasoline...a billion gallons a day...and we need it YESTERDAY! Get a move on it...

I want to hear YOUR solution...not an endless stream of links to studies. do you get others to cut your meat too? I don't want their ideas...I want yours. Or are you a "studies organizer" with no talent of their own? Show me what's in that brain. And you're going to lose me RIGHT AWAY if you say I have to start living like a Jamaican, or a Guatemalan...I'm warning you.

Like I said...you and your ilk are the worst form of hypocrite...telling everyone else what is "right" and how to live...while you jet around the world ala Al Gore. Yeah right...low carbon footprint and a big private jet. I bet your A/C is keeping you cool right now. Bet you got a nice 24" screen there too...and the latest gaming computer? 1000W power supply? Got that refer filled with goodies? What do you drive? WHY do you drive?

No, if you want to convince me to cut back...you better have already done it. I want someone else to relay messages to/from you via a runner. THEN you'll have my respect and I won't see you as just another nobody screaming at people they don't agree with...or worse...shutting them down by crying to moderators.

Take home message...practice what you preach or your just a hypocrite.

So...let's hear your solution to global warming.

I think you may take these discussions a little too seriously.

I wish you the best...

B-I-N-G-O

All these focks preaching from their 'mountain-tops' haven't one ioda of moral superiority to stand on until they walk the walk, or is it that they want 'big brother' to dictate to everyone else?


One man's anarchy is another man's order


Run tell dat, foo

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

What can we do about Climate Change?


Throwing out the baby with the bathwater, literally.

This is one extreme of a two-way switch. It's "on" for those that choose one extreme for the third world, affording themselves an easier lifestyle. It's "off" for countries deemed overpopulated, most likely by those that would disregard this same sort of regulation on themselves.

Same thing with carbon based energy. Some are only willing to look at the two extremes. To some, if one uses carbon energy at all, they have no right arguing a conservative alternative.

Some folks that would force drastic population controls, (and only on others) also complain there's no single, renewable substitute to finite resources. We simply can't solve this problem in the macro (a flip of the switch) so we're better off using limited, dirty energy sources that pollute and warm our planet. It's the same winner/loser proposition that narrows rational conversation of alternatives into black/white personal perspective.

Many folks are beginning to see that shades of gray might combine in the macro, affording an alternative to black/white solutions that produce too few winners and too many losers. Some still feel these shades of gray threaten their own objective in the ultimate micro...thyself.

It doesn't matter if carbon deposits are "free" in the micro. The carbon industry as a whole enjoys massive, tax-payer provided subsidies. Then they charge these same taxpayers according to shareholder dividends, lining the pockets of their top executives. It's worse for the taxpayer than "cost plus" MIC contracts are for government. If they have their way, the folks arguing against paying subsidies in general will simply put their money directly into industry's collective pocket, with no federally elected advocate to represent their personal interest. Why? When throwing out the baby with the bathwater doesn't produce fast enough, we'll drown that damn baby in the bathtub.

Some that advocate cutting off international aid also think the US can go on wasting as much as 40% of our energy and 50% of our food. This isn't a macro solution when we're only 320 million of billions.

This thread shows ways to micro-manage Climate Change. It also has many examples. It's not a population control thread, it's an international forum for crying out loud.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Nanny-nanny, boo-boo...It's my ball ball and I'm going home. Is that really what you want to sound like?

Racist content?

Stop drinking the kool-aid for a second and point out the racist content...please.

Easily done (in chronological order)

What SHOULD we be doing about 3rd world population? Sterilizing them...chemical castration...THESE are the solutions they need...not more bags of rice.

Just my opinion...

You act as though we're dealing with smart, intelligent, practical, hard working people...we're NOT...that's why they're IN the position they are! But people don't get that relationship. They can't comprehend that some peoples are not quite as bright and hard working as other peoples...never were and never will be.

I too have traveled quite a bit. I've lived in the middle east, central america, and visited others. Most of them ARE lazy. Maybe not in the sense of carrying wood or chopping trees...but in the sense of drive and ambition. White people...white society anyway...holds ambition high. We strive to "improve"...and I'll give you the fact that your definition of "improved" and mine might be different. But I'll take American life any day. That's why I don't want to see it changing. Our culture is being diluted and "dumbed down" to accommodate others...people from outside white society.

Thank you...but I don't WANT their culture. I'll try their food...but their values? Their language? No. Unfortunately, most foreign countries are very dirty and nasty...like going to the "hood"...gee, I wonder why...the same people live there.

What "advances"??? Modern western society is the pinnacle...there has never been anything remotely CLOSE to what we have now. Single family homes, cars, internet, cell phones...WHO do you compare the west with?

Do I "owe" you when I'm better than you and I beat you? If I get the job and not you, do I owe you a monthly fee? We won...we beat the entire planet. But now...we're giving it back...or better, we're letting them take it.

Labor and raw material is ALL these countries have ever provided.


No offense to you or anyone...it's just how I see it.

And besides, we all know "who" brings down ALL the stats for the US...I'll give you a hint...it starts out with the letters "minorit... THEY, when added to "our" stats, bring them way down.

Why do you think that Canada, Australia, Japan, and Northern Europe are at the top...? Please, I'd like your opinion...I have mine, and I bet you can guess...very few minorit...

I'm not going to get dragged into a black/brown vs white fight...like your "irrefutable" global warming evidence...I have irrefutable evidence of my own...I just can't use it or say anything. Because it won't be politically correct, I'll be "bashing" people of color...and we all know that's not allowed.

BTW, did you notice Africa on the chart? Pretty obvious there are big problems there...please explain their ranking and please explain why they're ranked where they are.

Now explain why they rank the same no matter which country they happen to be living in. If you were to take the US stats and then break them down by race, you'd see that there would be a similar chart but the division would be blue/purple colors for white regions and more red/black for the black areas. It follows them...

Actually, I blame women for most of our problems.

thought i'd include the sexism too.

 

[GMT]

"Our culture is being diluted and "dumbed down" to accommodate others." Ibjamming.


America is getting dumbed down from where they are now?


Holy Shit!




Sorry Couldn't resist.

 

[RetroGrow]

I think the point is, we can micro manage climate change in a thousand different ways, but the burgeoning world population negates all of those efforts. At a certain point, the numbers become overwhelming, and, we have already passed that point, IMHO. The year I was born, we had 3 billion people in the world. The planet supported 3 billion people quite nicely. The air was still clean, the oceans were pristine. Plenty of wildlife and habitat for them to prosper, plenty of space for people to roam. Fast forward only 50 years, a speck of time in the grand scheme, and an additional 4 billion people, and all that is gone. Our air is polluted. The oceans have become open sewers. We are in the midst of the greatest mass extinction of animal life in history. Loss of habitat increases daily, as we raze rain forests to create more grazing land for cattle, and to plant more soybeans to feed those cattle. The micro managing is fine. It helps a bit, and I am not against it, but it is not the solution.
Myself, I have quit eating red meat, as I know from my research that having one billion head of cattle on planet earth is the single most devastating thing we do to our planet. But I am only one person. How many others are willing to give up something for the better good? Not many, I am afraid.
Since it is the third world where the population explosion is happening, I feel we should not ignore that fact out of deference to political correctness. It is what it is. I wouldn't care if the people who are breeding irresponsibly were purple. That's not the issue. It's strictly a numbers game, and the numbers are working against us.
I am not recommending that we kill those people, but I do think we need to do something to raise their awareness, and I do think that we cannot allow things to progress as they are now, because with each new birth, the problem increases. And our leaders don't say a word about it, with a few exceptions. There is some backlash in Holland and Germany about the mass influx of Muslims into their countries, yet those people are generally shouted down by other politicos in the media, despite the fact that the people's will is being disregarded. The people don't want their countries overwhelmed, but the "politically correct" try to stifle the will of the people. Nature usually takes care of excesses, but we have used modern science to forestall the survival of the fittest.
On a personal level, if you really want to help out, quit the red meat. That is the single thing that any individual could do to mitigate environmental decay.