When knowledge is suppressed we all lose.

[dagnabit]

i musta hurt hims wittle feewings...

k+ heady weady no need to get hostile in the rep box tough guy


hilarious!

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

you made an interrogatory statement.
i provided you with the appropriate response to your inquiry.
you responded in a very defensive and childish manner.
i pointed out your lack of civility.
you made an irrelevant comment about the second stage of elementary education.
this does not constitute a "debate". maybe you should avail yourself of the reference books you claim to own. if you did you would not label our discourse debate.

if we were to debate i would point out that the real "denialisim" is the acceptance on the part of some in the scientific community that correlation is tantamount to causation.

but i avoid debates with creation "science" believers,man made global warming proponents,9/11 truthers,scientologists and all other doomsday cult worshipers. you will never get through to these types their faith is their shield.

My feelings can't be hurt at all by your confusion... I'm enjoying having the upper hand in our discussion.
Though i do feel a twinge of remorse occasionally... battling wits with unarmed men, is hardly fair.

You attempted a childishly pathetic sarcastic remark, under the guise of 'offering help'
I called you out in a sarcastic and witty manner...
which made you whine about my lack of manners
at which point I made sport of your whining.

Scientists are constantly trying to disprove their own theories, your assertion of scientists as denialist holds no water.

 

[dagnabit]

care to elaborate?

what confusion?

i didn't realize there was an "upper hand" to be had?

by what rules are we keeping score?

it seems to me you are the "confused" one.
you seem to be operating on the misconception we are somehow competing? no im sorry there is no competition here. just you being very immature.

but yes you have "the upper hand" good for you mr. bonaparte

upper hand

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

upper hand...
I'm making sense and you are spewing nonsense.
upper hand.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

What is political science then?

Mathematics is not used in the discourse of economics? I would consider math to be the base of economics and thus valid when talking about science and denialism.



Maybe your just narrow minded?

well... let me spoon feed you, since you are still confused.

political science
noun
the branch of knowledge that deals with systems of government; the analysis of political activity and behavior.

science |ˈsīəns|
noun
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment

Science can be discussed completely independently of politics, but you stubbornly refuse to follow the TOU.
You should stay on topic.
just because 'science' is part of a term does not mean that the term involves actual science.
i.e. scientology
Christian Science
Political Science
et al

 

[Mezz Mezzrow]

but i avoid debates with creation "science" believers,man made global warming proponents,9/11 truthers,scientologists and all other doomsday cult worshipers. you will never get through to these types their faith is their shield.

So interesting you put "9-11 truth" in with those other things. Are Truthers these Scientific Denialists of which we speak? I think this speaks to the crux of the matter because it highlights how the perception of scientific consensus can be manipulated. I've heard things like "not one structural engineer in the world has come out against the government's explanation of how the towers collapsed." That's clearly false. http://www.ae911truth.org/ So who is the denialist?

I kind of have a problem using this term "denialist" without feeling unsettled by the way. It is vaguely disturbing to me how it reeks of intellectual suppression. Ironic, ain't it?

 

[dagnabit]

good for you.

yes your right the world is only 6000 years old, the world is ending in 2012, 9/11 was an inside job, david coresh WAS the messiah, global warming is man made and the holocaust iz zionist propoganda.

you win the conversation(not sure how that works) you can tell your friends....

gooooo you!

 

[Mezz Mezzrow]

good for you.

yes your right the world is only 6000 years old, the world is ending in 2012, 9/11 was an inside job, david coresh WAS the messiah, global warming is man made and the holocaust iz zionist propoganda.

you win the conversation(not sure how that works) you can tell your friends....

gooooo you!

Wow ok.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

dagnabit, you should educate yourself.
Start here, everything is well explained at both a simple and advanced level, in a manner
anyone without a major learning disability can understand.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

 

[dagnabit]

Wow ok.

sorry i was just helping heady weady feel better..

he got pretty but hurt when he neg repped me.

i dont wanna be the cause of anyone's hypertension.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

you weren't ever helping me do anything, though you have entertained me some.
clowns are funny.


Your post were not helpful, and I indicated as much... stop crying about it.
sad clowns are less funny.

 

[Mezz Mezzrow]

sorry i was just helping heady weady feel better..

he got pretty but hurt when he neg repped me.

i dont wanna be the cause of anyone's hypertension.

I know how things go on threads. If anyone wants to chill and ratchet down the ego a little and discuss/debate things with a cool head that would be alright with me.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

when were we debating anything?

debate |diˈbāt|
noun
a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.
• an argument about a particular subject, esp. one in which many people are involved


argument |ˈärgyəmənt|
noun
1 an exchange of diverging or opposite views

Has this thread not been an exchange of diverging and opposite views?

 

[dagnabit]

dagnabit, you should educate yourself.
Start here, everything is well explained at both a simple and advanced level, in a manner
anyone without a major learning disability can understand.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

.

Look at the climaterealists.com (.com, lol...it's commercial, for profit, sells advertising) "headlines". Every article attempts to debunk AGW science.

yeah your link seems a bit biased?

not to mention its a .com
and you told me that were bad...
now i is just stoopid hill folk and wees dont know much but wees can tell bullshit from choco puddin.
but ill not be engaging in debate with cultists...

like i said before

yes your right the world is only 6000 years old, the world is ending in 2012, 9/11 was an inside job, david coresh WAS the messiah, global warming is man made and the holocaust iz zionist propoganda.

you win the conversation(not sure how that works) you can tell your friends....

gooooo you!

take your cookie and stfu

 

[dagnabit]

Has this thread not been an exchange of diverging and opposite views?

in a macro sense...

i again made the mistake of assuming you were capable of nuanced thought and could discern the micro subject within the greater topic.
but ill attempt to help.

i was referencing my providing you with a definition which you interpreted as an attack on your cult.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

yeah your link seems a bit biased?

not to mention its a .com
and you told me that were bad...
now i is just stoopid hill folk and wees dont know much but wees can tell bullshit from choco puddin.
but ill not be engaging in debate with cultists...

like i said before



take your cookie and stfu

Good information, is good information regardless of source.
ignoring what you don't know keeps you ignorant.

I never told anyone .com was bad.
Why not review the information, instead of being scared of it?

A grown up might look at the information and come up with fact based rebuttals.
I don't expect adult behavior from you, though...

you cannot participate in a discussion on a topic about which you are clueless.
anyone who was sincerely engaging in conversation on the subject would be interested in both sides of the issue.

lol @ your stfu.

enjoy your ignorance and I'll continue learning all I can about all of the assertions made by every side.

 

[dagnabit]

enjoy your ignorance.

and you yours
as do we all

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

i was referencing my providing you with a definition which you interpreted as an attack on your cult.

keep pushing that lie. anyone who bothers reading through the thread can see your obvious sarcasm and that the tone of my response was perfectly gauged to the tone of your post.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

and you yours
as do we all

no thanks. I'll continue systematically destroying my ignorance by acquiring new information. I'm not scared to read opposing arguments, regardless of their url.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Does everyone get the humor in dagnabit refusing to review the scientific evidences of which he is unaware... in a thread about denying science?