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mtbazz

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That doesnt really mean anything...there are plenty of people who have never smoked cannabis and have gone a decade or two without any illness at all....

Also, get that cough checked out man!


Cannabis keeps me healthy. In the 14 years ive been smoking ive only had the Flu twice, and both of those time were after a decade.Im even healthier now that i quite smoking cigarettes. I still cough a lot but not as hard or nearly as often, those cigarettes really made the difference.
 
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tokinafaty420

I don't do it anymore, but I used to smoke everyday a few years back and I did it for 4 years straight. Everyday, atleast 2-3 grams per day. Now a days I smoke about 4g a week. I can't honestly say b/c during that time I was also a cig smoker and my throat and breathing was all fucked up. Most likely from the cigs, but I'm sure smoking joints wasn't helping any. Now that I just smoke weed, I don't seem to have any real issue besides not being able to dream or waking up with cotton mouth every morning.
 
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Ziggaro

Been smokin 11 years.

Thats a long time to some people.. not others

I smoke often, but not in a great amount. An 8th of kind will usually last a week if I'm careful.

I'm in great health, although I'm not as sharp as I was at one time. I get a cold once usually in the winter, but I haven't been sick to my stomach in at least a decade.

My lungs feel great, I don't exercise much but I do play some tennis and basketball. Riding MX kicks my ass though cos my endurance is down (lack of exercise).

I'm not that motivated, but I never have been really.. I have always been one to procrastinate and like to relax :)

I'm still great at retaining information. I read at least 5 news sources per day, the bible a bit, and this website. If I've read it I'll remember it. Thats the only reason I ever did well in school.

Sorry to hear about those who have had negative experiences. Makes me wonder if its not from first, second, or third-hand tobacco.
 

THC123

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Veteran

look for fucks sake , just take a tissue , blow out smoke from your bong or whatever

then do the same with vape

and that's what happening to your lungs, let's juststay realistic here people

We all love mj , but smoking is unhealthy even if it is mj
 

Suomi-Prkl

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Veteran
"lazyness, bad concentration and memory are characteristics of a person. not the side-effects of smoking marijuana."

Drugs can change the "characteristics of a person" 180 degrees. This statement makes no logistical sense, even if you argue that cannabis does not cause the aforementioned symptoms.

everything we experience changes our personalities.

it makes sense just the same as schizophrenia is considered to be in the genetics and cannabis being just one factor that can trigger it.

lazyness, lack of concetration etc could also be triggered by marijuana use but one would propably be prone to such characteristics anyways. (in other words, it's easy to blame your lazyness etc on weed)
 

Suomi-Prkl

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also many of the side-effect a lot of people are mentioning sound a lot like consequenses of decades of unhealthy habits in general. i mean, a lot of you fail to include information about your tobacco habits, eating habits, use of prescription drugs etc.

for instance, if you've smoked decades of ciggies i don't think your in position to speak about health hazards of marijuana, at least from your own experience.
 
im er ummm absolut er absolutely fine,,no er um i say no er um bad effects here :)

Seriously hello there m8,is good you wanna get informed and get as many personal testemonies as possible so ill throw in my 2 cents too.Been smoking since 14 but not regular til 16/17 and have done so every since.Now all day every day.
Things i have noticed is shortness of breath when doing things i should be fine doing[used to swim and be really fit].Short term memory gets more impaired over time,long term is fine.
As for anything mind related no,i wasnt a full deck of cards b4 but havent noticed anything get worse down to the weed.

Some things can be mitigated,like the fitness can still be achieved and would certianly help the chest and lungs.Mediables or vapes are an option.

Short term memory is impaired but you will find yourself grasping things others will a more staright foward mind set dont seem to get,call it thinking outside the box,artists use it all the time to create.:artist:

If you have underlying exisiting problems then weed can certainly excaserbate these things and you need to really be honest with yourself about thise,mental helth is not to be taken lightly.

Anything can be a good servant but also a shitty master,all the best dude.:wave:
 

Dorje113

Member
I found recently that Butane was doing me more harm than ganja.

Don't inhale butane, don't smoke a pipe with a Bic.

I also recently got a vape, an Arizer Extreme Q, and it is awesome. Those that don't like vapes need to try one of these.

Between the vape and using beeline for smoking a pipe when I'm not at home it has helped a lot, mainly I don't cough as much during exercise. I ride mountain bike, and really push my physical abilities on a regular basis.
 

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Now in technicolor
Veteran
I'm generally always high. My friends and me chain smoke (weed.) Sometimes we have 2 vaporizers and a few joints going around (between 3-4 people.)

I have been smoking daily for about a year but smoked pretty frequently for years before that. I have noticed a few things about weed.

The most "dangerous" thing about weed is the fact that it's so benign. Smoking everyday doesn't hinder your life in any significant way, and so it is very easy to justify doing it. I can think, drive, etc while high, and so when pondering whether I should smoke or not, I always say "why not?" and proceed to smoke.

The #1 issue I see with Cannabis use is that it may affect melatonin production and REM sleep. Basically it may fuck with your circadian cycle, though this depends on strain (indica vs sativa) and when you smoke (before bed?)

hoosierdaddy hit the same issue:
Pot can effect our dreams in a big way. Not so much when using it, but when not using it.
When we stop smoking, for whatever reason, very vivid and colorful dreams, and even nightmares, will take place on a regular basis for a good deal of time...maybe for like a couple of weeks or more after stopping.

As for short term memory, mine has always sucked. Weed doesn't help of course, but unless I'm BLASTED, this is no longer an issue for me. Our brain learns how to deal with the high and rewires itself to overcome any deficits. I notice my short term memory is affected when I try new strains (esp when I go from indica -> sativa after a long time.) I quickly adjust to it though.

The other major issue I have is with smoking in general. I have healthy lungs, no asthma, never had bronchitis. If I smoke heavily (chain smoking joints or spliffs,) I sometimes get a persistent dry cough that lasts a few days, and if I bike/jog I notice I run out of breath easily.

Some of my friends CANNOT keep smoking due to asthma and some smoke but get lung infections often. This doesn't happen to me but it should be considered if lung issues run in the family. I have resorted to vaping whenever I'm home. Outside I either vape or smoke joints.

I no longer hold joints in and I don't inhale too deeply. Weed for me is a surplus and this justifies a healthier way of smoking. Deep hits introduce A LOT of tar into your lungs, and when you chain smoke joints this becomes an issue.
 

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Now in technicolor
Veteran
I found recently that Butane was doing me more harm than ganja.

Don't inhale butane, don't smoke a pipe with a Bic.

Don't do it with a Zippo either. With joints/blunts I don't inhale the first 1-2 hits. With a pipe I try to light the bowl w/o inhaling and then take the lighter off and inhale a hit.
 
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sparkjumper

I have literally been smoking erb for 35 years now along with cigarettes,so I cant tell whats fucking me up.I'd put my money on the cigarettes.
 

NUG-JUG

Member
I found recently that Butane was doing me more harm than ganja.

Don't inhale butane, don't smoke a pipe with a Bic.
:tiphat::tiphat:

Yes Yes ! (as I scrounge for my bic lol) Dorje is right butane is very harmful. Hemp Wick is a good alternative.

I just turned 23 been smoking pretty much daily since 17. I notice some short term memory loss only when stoned. Which I can deal with. I think if you just smoke the herb, and not cigarettes you will be fine. Assuming your diet doesn't consist of double-downs and cheez-doodles..
 

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Now in technicolor
Veteran
"lazyness, bad concentration and memory are characteristics of a person. not the side-effects of smoking marijuana."

Drugs can change the "characteristics of a person" 180 degrees. This statement makes no logistical sense, even if you argue that cannabis does not cause the aforementioned symptoms.

In my experience has a heavy drug user (and sometimes abuser,) hanging around other light and heavy drug users and abusers, no drug changes a person's personality that significantly except for alcohol and drugs that flood your brain with dopamine (coke, amphetamine, etc.) But even the latter do little more than exaggerate qualities already present in that person.

Some drugs remove depression/anxiety and this results in a complete 180 degree in that person's personality, but I see this as being the person's "true" nature beneath the baggage he normally carries around sober.

As for laziness and motivation.. lazy and unmotivated people may smoke a lot of weed, but that doesn't mean weed causes laziness and demotivation. Most people who get on a drug and ignore every responsibility they have are fucked up to begin with. I highly doubt alcoholic or lazy-pothead Joe will become driven and productive if their drug didn't exist.
 

Fuzz420

Ganja Smoker Extraordinaire
Veteran
That doesnt really mean anything...there are plenty of people who have never smoked cannabis and have gone a decade or two without any illness at all....

Also, get that cough checked out man!

Then why would i get sick yearly on a regular basis like clockwork before i started using cannabis.After starting a regular usage I DID NOT GET SICK.Cannabis keeps me healthy physically, mentally, and spiritually.

The cough is only a side effect of long term tobacco use.Its improved dramatically the 1.5 years that i know longer use tobacco on a regular basis(cigarettes). I smoke blunts on a regular, and now i can chief.
 

pearlemae

May your race always be in your favor
Veteran
Been a long term smoker 41 yrs actually. I do not have any medical issues from smoking MJ. I see my Doc every 6 months like clock work,I'm 62 and in pretty good shape all things considered I'm a disabled vet but its a back problem. My wife has been smoking as log as I have, She had a stroke last year but it wasn't because of Mj, in fact she uses it now as a adjunct to her her meds. Helps to stop seizures,when she smokes no seizures, no smoke the seizures can come on.So the answer is to:smoweed:
 

johnipedestran

1%
Veteran
everyday for 21 years. just completed my second triathlon last weekend. finished in the top third.
also during those 21 years I have gone from a 250 pound lazy sack of shit to tri-athlete

De-motivating? I don't think so.

peace
jip
 

THC123

Active member
Veteran
Originally Posted by THC123 View Post
@ MEzz

Oh comon just blow some smoke through a white handkerchief , that is what you do to your lungs , and that is what you are hacking up

Except our lungs aren't a white handkerchief and function very differently...

no smoke can be healthy for the lungs , lungs aren't made to inhale smoke


for the 100.000th time , i love mj , but i stay realistic , if you smoke your lung capacity will diminish , and your lungs can take less oxigen from the air inhaled

So vaping and especially eating are the way to go if you wanna save your lungs

don't get me worng i love smoking and everything but i just keep it to a minimum , so for me more vape then smoke

just quit smoking for a month and then smoke one , you will immedialtely ffeel the difference , if you quit for a month you are full of air
 

THC123

Active member
Veteran
Been smokin 11 years.

Thats a long time to some people.. not others

I smoke often, but not in a great amount. An 8th of kind will usually last a week if I'm careful.

I'm in great health, although I'm not as sharp as I was at one time. I get a cold once usually in the winter, but I haven't been sick to my stomach in at least a decade.

My lungs feel great, I don't exercise much but I do play some tennis and basketball. Riding MX kicks my ass though cos my endurance is down (lack of exercise).

I'm not that motivated, but I never have been really.. I have always been one to procrastinate and like to relax

I'm still great at retaining information. I read at least 5 news sources per day, the bible a bit, and this website. If I've read it I'll remember it. Thats the only reason I ever did well in school.

Sorry to hear about those who have had negative experiences. Makes me wonder if its not from first, second, or third-hand tobacco.


The way i see it if i read you text is that you where smart anough to keep your use to a minimum and that's prolly the reason you don't have much problems , but if you smoke a lot every day non stop , you will get respiratory problems
 
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