5000 barrels a day of oil (210,000 gallons) leak off the coast of Louisiana
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What the hell have these people done...
Some more here with many links, check the last one showing a video apparentlly shot right after some oil rain in Louisiana :http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_60587.shtml
Irie !
Some more here with many links, check the last one showing a video apparentlly shot right after some oil rain in Louisiana :http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_60587.shtml
Irie !
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FAST GOAT, i am searching for the whole truth. so far CNN and Anderson Cooper are all i can sortof count on. i have watched and totally believe the oil rain vids on youtube, as well as the nuclear option being the only thing that will work, as i believe the oil experts vid there as well, that the relief wells will FAIL due to the casing breaking. you have to wonder about a conspiracy thy as well with the use of inadequate casing material and bp's ordering haliburton to use less cement than what they themselves (haliburton) called out. the Death Wind will certainly take place. i feel we are being invaded and NOBODY IS DOING SHIT. if you look on page one i made a post back in May wherein i say i thought obama was doing a good job with what he had. well at the time.....NOT FUCKING NOW. it has been three months and he still has not brought out the 2000 oil skimmers that are right here in the u.s.. they have done nothing. they are still using the corexit. it is in fact, causing the oil to vaporize and rain oil all over. when the hurricanes hit, as they WILL, the whole east coast will be dead.
i would like to say one more thing. OBAMA is a fucking loser and i am ashamed that i voted for the mother fucker. i would vote for rush limbaugh before i vote for that worthless bag of shit one more time. although i am not from the south i am taking this oil spill like a knife in the heart. i have written endless times to all my senators and o'bummer and not one reply from any of them.
i am two months behind on my mortgage and was gonna let it go and try to stay here for 6 to 18 months until they throw me out, but now it appears that my property values are going to go up, along with the whole west coast.
FLYING GOAT, i need to know from you more about your alleged SECOND leak (3rd too), for this is something i have only heard from you. If the relief wells do in fact fail, then they will need to put the atom bomb somewhere that will seal ALL of the leaks, not just the one on tv. you can pm me anytime.
i live where it is you suggested you may want to move. i anticipate many in your area will want to move here too. however there are now fishing limits on what can be taken. in alaska, those guys on Deadliest Catch and like them are about the only ones allowed to fish. for they give out quotas to all of them based on what they have been catching in the past. i dont know for sure but i am pretty damned sure that you just cant go up there an start fishing anymore. you have to have been up there doing it to get a quota. so the others who bring their boats up here will be s.o.l.
i live on one lot in the city. i have friends tho where you can keep your goats. depending on how many in your family you could stay here for maybe 3 months 4 free (four br house, i only use two). their are boat builders in Anacortes (Dakota Creek Industries) that i know are non-union and the pay reflects that. there are lots of houses for rent around here for 800-$1000 a month. i think my old roomie that worked at DC made like $15 /hr. which is chump change but could pay the rent. the economy right here is suck! which is why i am two months behind my mortgage. up in Bellingham and Everett things are better and there is much more dock work in Seattle. most of the docks are full of Navy ships in everett. i dont know of any ship building in bellingham and there is nothing north of there. it is hard to emigrate to canada. if i could i WOULD!!
thanks for verifying for me that it is in fact raining oil. please let me know about the other oil leaks. i know the well leaks because of the failure of the top kill. i really dont want to reveal much more about my whereabouts, lets just say anacortes is very near.
i would like to say one more thing. OBAMA is a fucking loser and i am ashamed that i voted for the mother fucker. i would vote for rush limbaugh before i vote for that worthless bag of shit one more time. although i am not from the south i am taking this oil spill like a knife in the heart. i have written endless times to all my senators and o'bummer and not one reply from any of them.
i am two months behind on my mortgage and was gonna let it go and try to stay here for 6 to 18 months until they throw me out, but now it appears that my property values are going to go up, along with the whole west coast.
FLYING GOAT, i need to know from you more about your alleged SECOND leak (3rd too), for this is something i have only heard from you. If the relief wells do in fact fail, then they will need to put the atom bomb somewhere that will seal ALL of the leaks, not just the one on tv. you can pm me anytime.
i live where it is you suggested you may want to move. i anticipate many in your area will want to move here too. however there are now fishing limits on what can be taken. in alaska, those guys on Deadliest Catch and like them are about the only ones allowed to fish. for they give out quotas to all of them based on what they have been catching in the past. i dont know for sure but i am pretty damned sure that you just cant go up there an start fishing anymore. you have to have been up there doing it to get a quota. so the others who bring their boats up here will be s.o.l.
i live on one lot in the city. i have friends tho where you can keep your goats. depending on how many in your family you could stay here for maybe 3 months 4 free (four br house, i only use two). their are boat builders in Anacortes (Dakota Creek Industries) that i know are non-union and the pay reflects that. there are lots of houses for rent around here for 800-$1000 a month. i think my old roomie that worked at DC made like $15 /hr. which is chump change but could pay the rent. the economy right here is suck! which is why i am two months behind my mortgage. up in Bellingham and Everett things are better and there is much more dock work in Seattle. most of the docks are full of Navy ships in everett. i dont know of any ship building in bellingham and there is nothing north of there. it is hard to emigrate to canada. if i could i WOULD!!
thanks for verifying for me that it is in fact raining oil. please let me know about the other oil leaks. i know the well leaks because of the failure of the top kill. i really dont want to reveal much more about my whereabouts, lets just say anacortes is very near.
does anyone know if that new cap worked or not? Can't find anything on it.
Nor'Easter
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ugh are they ever going to fix this? lets hope this works!
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National Public Radio NPR just said they will try and close the valves to see if it will leak.
If it doesn't they may keep the valves closed. NPR reports it went really well.
If it leaks they still have the ability to syphon.
that's great news about the new cap working so far. this whole situation is really sad. but, i know of no other sustainable way of being other than optimistic. i've been surfing in our gulf since the spill and i am alive and doing well. i saw a sea turtle last week pop up next to me that looked like its skin had been bleached - chemical burned. but i was out there with it, experiencing its world. it's most important to be present. there is NO better way of knowing other than direct experience.
i've grown up surfing and offshore fishing on and in gulf of mexico, and i know that we will survive. i think we will be seeing the effects of this spill and it'd dispersants for years and decades after they stop the gushing oil, but if this is what it takes for us human to learn about our blindness and greed then so be it. we will keep making mistakes until we do learn.
i'm pissed at bp, but this is less of an "us-against-them" scenario than everyone wants to think. how many of you live petroleum-free lives? anyone? how many of you plan on stopping your use of oil because of this spill? anyone? ... you get my point?
the conspiracy theories are too easy and seductive to accept, and they are a great way to remove yourself from the equation - makes it too easy to point fingers. the damage has been done and will continue being done. we can only love ourselves and improve our own lives, trust the people around us, and know that the kind of love that our mother gives us can be a very tough love sometimes.
i've grown up surfing and offshore fishing on and in gulf of mexico, and i know that we will survive. i think we will be seeing the effects of this spill and it'd dispersants for years and decades after they stop the gushing oil, but if this is what it takes for us human to learn about our blindness and greed then so be it. we will keep making mistakes until we do learn.
i'm pissed at bp, but this is less of an "us-against-them" scenario than everyone wants to think. how many of you live petroleum-free lives? anyone? how many of you plan on stopping your use of oil because of this spill? anyone? ... you get my point?
the conspiracy theories are too easy and seductive to accept, and they are a great way to remove yourself from the equation - makes it too easy to point fingers. the damage has been done and will continue being done. we can only love ourselves and improve our own lives, trust the people around us, and know that the kind of love that our mother gives us can be a very tough love sometimes.
Very frustrating as well as sad but, many here do not get your point at all.
Great post, BTW.
BP's Horrible Safety Record: It's Got 760 OSHA Fines, Exxon Has Just 1
http://www.businessinsider.com/bp-h...s-has-an-awful-track-record-for-safety-2010-6
BP is a bimbo.
I'm sure if people had the resources to cut there dependence on oil they would do it. People don't do it because they can't afford it. If they was offered another option that is affordable I'm sure many wouldn't hesitate to get away from oil.
They may be easy to accept, but they shouldn't be so easily dismissed. Especially in an industry as lucrative as the oil industry. Anywhere there is massive money you can bet you ass there are conspirators, cover ups, and everything else that comes with billions of dollars.
What's your opinion on BP lobbying with Libya to get the transfer of the lockerbie bomber from the UK back to Libya where he was set free. As soon as the man goes free, BP gets the ok from Libya to drill off their coast..
May not be any conspiracies.. But there is definitly some shady, greedy stuff that comes with these businesses.
These character flaws exist in every company and industry. They also exist in each and every society and every family. It is the human condition.
The one who is more pure than BP, or Obama, or George Bush...do step up so we can get a good look at you. Maybe even critique you a bit...
The one who is more pure than BP, or Obama, or George Bush...do step up so we can get a good look at you. Maybe even critique you a bit...
Your right, everyone has character flaws, but billions of dollars will guarantee people to do things they normally wouldn't. Give a man a huge sum of money to do something that isn't in the best interest of millions of people.. If it's enough money he won't think twice.
Normal people carrying on with their everyday lives exhibits semi harmless character flaws. Not the case when big money is involved.
Normal people carrying on with their everyday lives exhibits semi harmless character flaws. Not the case when big money is involved.
It's just everywhere, our whole civilisation is based on oil. I have no car or any thermic-engine vehicle, so i use no oil, but my computer is partly made of plastics, made from oil and damn plastic is just everywhere.
Oil is also in some many clothes, with polyamide or polyesther for instance.
The darn thing is just everywhere !
groan.. I alwayd get upset when I hear this "conspiracy theory" thing when another, usually disturbing, light is shone on news (i'm talking rather about in mainstream media, not pointing personnaly at you bodymind)
This is the easy way to level down the so-called "theories" to something worth publishing only in News of the World and therefore not worth discussing. For sure there are true fantasies going on as well (this haarp thing reaches amazing levels of dumbnes for instance) and one has to do some news trimming to sort out the facts. But dismissing it all as conspiracy theories is just too easy.
It is a fact that everyday's fate of the world is planned and decided by corporate governments and that these people will do anything they can if it means, more money & power. And if killing a few millions of people brings in enough profit, that's not a problem. there's nothing of any conspiracy in claiming that, it's just the truth.
About oil companies, they are simply evilish, motivated exclusively my profit and just don't give a shit about us "small people", to quote one of them BP executives.
Killing local populations, wiping out whole ecosystems is not a problem for them, because it pays ! There's the Gulf of course, but less talked about is Nigeria, in the Niger river delta where huge amounts of crude oil have been released. When i say huge, it means more than for the gulf leak. THe way life of locals has simply been destroyed and they're dying from cancer and other poisoning due to the oil which is everywhre in water and soil. Last resort locals had was to go into armed struggle, which got them names such as "terrorists", "pirates" and so on. Oil corps came in, destroyed everything and if someone tries to resist & protext his land & community, he's terrorist so can be killed, eradicated with the blessings of so-called "international community".
SOme interesting article here, about them bloody work in Sudan (another corp than BP)
About the US, you can search about Mountain top removal in the Appalachias, or also about gas fracking, which happens in most of the US and brings destruction & misery upon many "small people" (check these links for more about fracking : http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=181205
When it comes to exploiting a energy &/or mineral resource, them corps know no limit.
Take care everyone !
Irie !
good post mriko and smilin bob. i'm not dismissing the truths about corporate and government greed and cover-ups, or even some of the less mainstream ideas about strings being pulled by people and institutions who remain largely hidden. we should all be informed and about what influences our world, our lives, and the lives of our fellow humans.
however, i think a lot of people do get caught up in hysterics over these disasters and get very caught up in speculative and alarmist finger pointing. recently, i had a friend post photos of a "mud lump" formation on the beach in louisiana, and there were no less than 50 comments on this photo within a day speculating on what rig it came from, how it floated ashore, whether it was oil that had been dispersed, etc. all alarmist stuff. people are scared of the world now. i knew what the stuff was upon first glancing at the photo: an ancient silt bed that forms the base layers of much of the gulf coast from alabama to texas. if these people had been intimate with their environment before this disaster, i believe we would be seeing more sober responses from many of them. the level of many people's fear is in direct proportion to their feeling of disconnection to the world in which they live.
this oil spill is a wake up call and people from all over the world are opening their eyes, and like waking up from a deep sleep, they are disoriented. lets guide them and ourselves to a better waking life.
however, i think a lot of people do get caught up in hysterics over these disasters and get very caught up in speculative and alarmist finger pointing. recently, i had a friend post photos of a "mud lump" formation on the beach in louisiana, and there were no less than 50 comments on this photo within a day speculating on what rig it came from, how it floated ashore, whether it was oil that had been dispersed, etc. all alarmist stuff. people are scared of the world now. i knew what the stuff was upon first glancing at the photo: an ancient silt bed that forms the base layers of much of the gulf coast from alabama to texas. if these people had been intimate with their environment before this disaster, i believe we would be seeing more sober responses from many of them. the level of many people's fear is in direct proportion to their feeling of disconnection to the world in which they live.
this oil spill is a wake up call and people from all over the world are opening their eyes, and like waking up from a deep sleep, they are disoriented. lets guide them and ourselves to a better waking life.
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if you want to guide them anywhere you can guide them away from the gulf..
i think this way. bp is totally negligent and needs to pay for every dime of cleaning this up. something they can never, ever do, even at 1 billion USD profit a month. they are going to go bye-bye brothers. and hopefully, i am thinking, the u.s. govt will be able to get ahold of their major assets, like their refineries, one i know of each in texas and cherry point, washington, and probably many more in the u.s.: ie nationalize them.
on the other hand. OBAMA, personally, individually, my his mother fucking SELF is responsible for the oil not getting cleaned up. NEVER MIND THE FUCKING way bp and everybody else got their permits, DOUCHE BAG OBUMMA' had the option of overriding the Jones act, bringing in skimmers from over seas, and also could have sent every one of the u.s.'s TWO THOUSAND MUTHER FUCKIN SKIMMERS to the GOD DAMNED GULF and DIDN'T!
NOT ONLY THAT; he COULD HAVE, THREE MOTHER FUCKIN MONTHS AGO, told bp to STOP using COREXIT, UN-FUCKING TESTED, to disperse the oil, only to find out that it is causing the oil to VAPORIZE AND RAIN ON THE GROUND, it is going to kill everything, AND O-MUTHER-FUCKIN-BAMA-LAMA-DING-DONG IS STILL DOING FUCKING NOTHING!!!!!
sOrry, did i miss the point somewhere? maybe i'm off on some kind of tangent.
i think this way. bp is totally negligent and needs to pay for every dime of cleaning this up. something they can never, ever do, even at 1 billion USD profit a month. they are going to go bye-bye brothers. and hopefully, i am thinking, the u.s. govt will be able to get ahold of their major assets, like their refineries, one i know of each in texas and cherry point, washington, and probably many more in the u.s.: ie nationalize them.
on the other hand. OBAMA, personally, individually, my his mother fucking SELF is responsible for the oil not getting cleaned up. NEVER MIND THE FUCKING way bp and everybody else got their permits, DOUCHE BAG OBUMMA' had the option of overriding the Jones act, bringing in skimmers from over seas, and also could have sent every one of the u.s.'s TWO THOUSAND MUTHER FUCKIN SKIMMERS to the GOD DAMNED GULF and DIDN'T!
NOT ONLY THAT; he COULD HAVE, THREE MOTHER FUCKIN MONTHS AGO, told bp to STOP using COREXIT, UN-FUCKING TESTED, to disperse the oil, only to find out that it is causing the oil to VAPORIZE AND RAIN ON THE GROUND, it is going to kill everything, AND O-MUTHER-FUCKIN-BAMA-LAMA-DING-DONG IS STILL DOING FUCKING NOTHING!!!!!
sOrry, did i miss the point somewhere? maybe i'm off on some kind of tangent.
Tronic
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the only 'points' you missed were that:
a) bp is not now, nor in our lifetime, going bye-bye, and the US Govt will not seize any of their assets.
b) put any president in his position, same exact thing happens. dont hate the player (president) hate the game (congress/corps/big$$/OIL). just the way it is in todays society man, i dont agree with it but its a fact.
cheers
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even fucking dubbya had the brains to repeal the jones act after katrina..
b) put any president in his position, same exact thing happens. dont hate the player (president) hate the game (congress/corps/big$$/OIL). just the way it is in todays society man, i dont agree with it but its a fact.
cheers
and he is quite possibly the dumbest fuck on the planet.
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