do you really loose flavor in hydro ???

[unthing]

Well, last winter I bought a cucumber from the grocery store that was hydro grown under HPS lights.

It tasted like shit and cost over 2 euros!!!

Hmm, I don't know for sure, but it might suck because of logistics too. Everything has to be picked raw for transport and storage. Whether local or global.

There are good hydroponic stuff around, like some very tasty chiles grown in rockwool dripfeed.

 

[cannaboy]

This thread is gone to another lazy growers views to the way its been done for years seriously tho can somebody justify bying a hydro kit for their first grow??? I seen good hydro buds and bad organic ones but I will never buy hydro grow shwagg!!!!!!!!!

Its not the kind meds I use or need..

I also belive that this hydro veg is real bad,,, no wonder major serious resturaunts have their own gardens and gardeners and scouts for produce..


Did anybody see the new head chair for uk food she's all for GM,,,

What a which..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_hwtVVrD8U search this dude he's funny the way his mind thinks kind of like biohydro minds,,

This guy will tell you all about food!!! between him the roux bros raymond blank, hugh fernly wittingstall, marco pierre and a few others not mentioned you'll never never never get them to buy shit food!!!

 

[superultramega]

Uh I know a couple chefs that use a great deal of hydroponic vegetables. That's chefs, not cooks.
Again I don't think you realize you eat hydroponic vegetables all the time. They typically aren't labeled as such.

Also GM food is awesome. You can slowly breed the characteristics you want or you can derive them quickly by direct genetic modification. No difference in outcome.

Or, be afraid of science because you don't understand it.

 

[Aeroguerilla]

my aero buds are 10x better then ANY soil chemsour that my boys be growing. hands down. crystal count, size of buds, taste... win win win situation ima have to disagree with the loss of flavor when not using soil

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

my aero buds are 10x better then ANY soil chemsour that my boys be growing. hands down. crystal count, size of buds, taste... win win win situation ima have to disagree with the loss of flavor when not using soil.

Legalization is BULLSHIT. Medical all the way and decriminalize.

10 X better hun? Are you sure it is not 9X or 11X better?
Well, not to rag on your "boys" but unless you are comparing your hydro with Bio-Dynamic Organically soil grown in the earth the contest is not right. I won't even try and argue with the crystal count, size of the buds, or the speed of maturation.
But I will about taste and smell. I have seen the same clones grown in organic soil, and hydro, the hydro never has the complexity or intensity of smell or taste. I am not talking about a few years, I am talking decades of growing.
I know that hydro can be damn good in taste, I know that soil grown can be piss poor. But if you compare the same clone grown by the best growers of hydro and the same clone grown by the best organic soil growers, I would be shocked to see the hydro win in a taste contest.
Also as a resin smoker I prefer large crops with lots of resin.
By large I mean several kilos a plant, dry and cleaned.
And even better, hundreds of them.
I don't know anyone with this size of a hydro grow, I know lots of outdoor growers that have them.
But anyway, if it is about the taste and smell, that is all that counts I guess, and if so, then organic soil grown tastes better to me. Maybe it is because I have a super sensitive sense of smell and taste, I can smell and taste many things my wife or friends don't even notice. Hyperosmia is what it is called.

Maybe there are clones that do perform better under hydro, but until I tried growing the same clone organically in soil and someone showed me a hydro bud of the same clone that tasted better I will continue to have my doubts....

-SamS

PS Funny how you say legalization is Bullshit. What about the over 800,000 arrests for Cannabis yearly in the USA? To me that is the BULLSHIT! If you are one of the growers who cares more about personal profit then the 800,000+ people arrested, then shame shame on you....
People are more important then profit, wise up.
Decriminalization is not the solution....
Tax and Regulate is the way to bring Cannabis into the mainstream where it belongs.

 

[Lazyman]

...PS Funny how you say legalization is Bullshit. What about the over 800,000 arrests for Cannabis yearly in the USA? To me that is the BULLSHIT! If you are one of the growers who cares more about personal profit then the 800,000+ people arrested, then shame shame on you....
People are more important then profit, wise up.
Decriminalization is not the solution....
Tax and Regulate is the way to bring Cannabis into the mainstream where it belongs.

I assume you're talking about California's TC2010 bill, which won't legalize anything you already don't get locked up for.

Possession of less than 1oz of weed (same as TC2010) currently is a $150 fine, no jail time.
Growing 5 plants or less (about what will fit in TC2010) is currently a diversion program, no jail time for first time offenders.

The net number of people who will be released from California prisons? I can't guarantee it, but likely to be few, if any.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I assume you're talking about California's TC2010 bill, which won't legalize anything you already don't get locked up for.

Possession of less than 1oz of weed (same as TC2010) currently is a $150 fine, no jail time.
Growing 5 plants or less (about what will fit in TC2010) is currently a diversion program, no jail time for first time offenders.

The net number of people who will be released from California prisons? I can't guarantee it, but likely to be few, if any.

Wrong, Lazyman.
In Calif you need to be a medical user to have protection growing, if you are not then go to jail.
Also you did not address the over 800,000 Cannabis arrests yearly in the USA, don't they count?
While passing Tc2010 may not get anyone released from California prisons, hopefully it is the first small step in the long road to allowing taxed and regulated cannabis to be grown nation wide...
And the stopping of the 800,000 arrests yearly.

By the way Tc2010 has no plant limits for home use, it is a square foot limit, and I can fit hundreds of small plants into the limit, not just 5 as you suggested.
Not that it matters, because once legal for big biz to grow no one will grow their own anymore, or hardly anyone. How many people that you know that drink make their own beer or wine? .01% or less? Why do you think that if legal a decade anyone would bother to grow their own? I suspect they will buy their Cannabis at the local 7-11, with their beer, wine, cigaretts, and all the other stuff they like. That is the American way...

-SamS

 

[Lazyman]

Sorry Sam, but growing "personal amounts" of marijuana without a med card us not a jailable offense currently, just a diversion program, unless NORML has it all wrong on their site?

 

[Neo 420]

Sorry Sam, but growing "personal amounts" of marijuana without a med card us not a jailable offense currently, just a diversion program, unless NORML has it all wrong on their site?

Depending on the city/county they can still lock you up. Still happens all the time in Cali in off the wall places..

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Who said personal amounts? And who decides what is personal amounts?
If you smoke buds maybe, but I only smoke dry sift resin, about 1% of the buds you smoke.
So I need at least 100 times the amount you need.
Anyway what about the 800,000 people arrested each year, don't they count? I want to begin the change of all of this, don't you?

BTW I checked NORML here is what I found for California:

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4525

Cultivation
Any amount (exception for patients or caregivers) felony 16 - 36 months
The cultivation or processing of any amount of marijuana is punishable by up to sixteen months in state prison.
There is an exception to the cultivation prohibition for patients or patients’ caregivers who possess or cultivate for personal use by the patient upon approval of a physician.
The laws regarding possession and cultivation of marijuana do not apply to patients or patients’ primary caregivers who possess or cultivate marijuana for the personal medical use of the patient, upon the recommendation or approval of a physician.

-SamS

 

[med1]

yes you do loose some taste and smell. You can't get better than organic soil for taste or smell. i have been doing coco for 5 years and all different strains, they all seem a little weeker in hydo as far as taste and smell. They get you just as high but the smell is a nice thing to have.

 

[Japanfreakier]

I've always heard that every cannabis cup winner has been grown in soil. Don't know if it's true, but if so, something to think about.

Sure but who really believes that the Cannabis Cup is a good indication of anything. Kind of like MTV music awards is not really an indication of the best music out there.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Why is that HB? I've used chems for years (commercial indoor growing) and very rarely see anyone use organics indoors, at least on any kind of scale. Do you see a lot of big organic indoor ops?

Im sure that will change with legalisation , folks will prefer to grow outdoor and in soil .. unless they cant because of climate....

 

[headband 707]

Interesting

Interesting

Im sure that will change with legalisation , folks will prefer to grow outdoor and in soil .. unless they cant because of climate....

LOL LOL okay sorry Donald I really don't agree with that statemant either LOL Not that I haven't seen some sweet outdoor gear , But I have also had some indoor that can't compare to anything either. I think the strain deternines as much as the grower who does what in this game. Everyone thinks they do the best it makes me laugh. I think the cups should decide if you believe in the cups LOL LOL LOL peace out Headband707

 

[Donald Mallard]

Funny you should say that headband ,, recently we came second place in the icmag cup hashish section using herb grown organically and outdoor ,, so it seems it can compare ..

 

[IwannatokeNbone]

were talking about a weed, u can grow 30 plants from the same parents, lets say u have nl crossed with skunk, maybe a few might have the genetics to give of that special incredible taste and the rest just dont have it. arguing over root hairs with invented grammer or the need for funji n special animal dookie dropping seems kind of fickle and redundant. its in the genes and not brought out best with plain water its just that its not masked plain n simple by running a long flush to eliminate the rabbit poop or Gh chems. if u want the taste of cannabis n nothing else u need to cut the n very early and flush a long time n loose some yeild, there is no other way.

 

[YoungBud]

were talking about a weed, u can grow 30 plants from the same parents, lets say u have nl crossed with skunk, maybe a few might have the genetics to give of that special incredible taste and the rest just dont have it. arguing over root hairs with invented grammer or the need for funji n special animal dookie dropping seems kind of fickle and redundant. its in the genes and not brought out best with plain water its just that its not masked plain n simple by running a long flush to eliminate the rabbit poop or Gh chems. if u want the taste of cannabis n nothing else u need to cut the n very early and flush a long time n loose some yeild, there is no other way.

lol its not a weed.

 

[cannaboy]

If you grow hydro then you'll never know,,

 

[Nonphixion]

People think my hydro weed is grown outside. I do nothing special except flush for 10-14 days. I use gh nutes (Lucas formula).

It's in no offense, and forgive me if I'm overstepping, but people think of outdoor weed as generally of lesser quality. I don't know why that is, probably because of less control over environmental conditions and pests etc. It seems to be common knowledge that outdoor weed is slightly less potent than indoor, which is why it fetches a lower price on the market.

I could be wrong, though.