My Grindhouse 1.01ft^. 90w PL-L grow with pic timeline

[big ballin 88]

The main problem is these plants were growing real dense. Before i started pruning you could see that light wouldn't make it down to far. That's why i decided to hit it with the vertical HPS. Since i've done that you can see the nugs growing up that before weren't growing at all. I think the main problem is when you get to high wattage PL-L they retain the same shape but start to put out greater energy for penetration. In my mind this is the main thing you need to grow well, or at least nice dense nugs.

Efficiency may seem better with smaller bulbs but in the end i think the power of say a 2-50w will do better than 4-24w's. When the bulb already covers a long amount of area you want to make sure to put as much power as you can along that whole bulb.

Next time around i'm going with my idea earlier of putting a pl-l on each wall running horizontally. Than have a 70w or 150w CMH dual end bulb on top facing down. I figure this way there is always side lighting going towards the center. Whatever floro light doesn't make it will be covered by the CMH in the center. I figure this way i can maximize my efficiency. Also as long as i make sure most of the bases face the same direction, in-canopy temps will stay cooler than my current setup.

I probably wont be using this cab to flower in again though. This was really an experiment and its working well. Just a lot of time and effort put into something with minimal yields. My main thing is i want to get into breeding.

 

[xmobotx]

i was liking that dude's "time machine" thread - seems like he is getting away from it but anyway

i started off running a shop light and one of those 70's "plant light" incandescent bulbs - always wondered how good it would be to run the shop flourescents vertical w/ quite a few of them

saw something to that effect too but now i cant remember where

 

[twrex]

i was liking that dude's "time machine" thread - seems like he is getting away from it but anyway

i started off running a shop light and one of those 70's "plant light" incandescent bulbs - always wondered how good it would be to run the shop flourescents vertical w/ quite a few of them

saw something to that effect too but now i cant remember where

If you're talking about vertical fluorescent grows there are a couple of good examples that come to mind. Tilt has recently had one (the entertainment center) and then there's the infamous highpod.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=174331
and
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=92259

 

[big ballin 88]

I just bought a carbon filter because things are starting to stink. I'm also thinking about getting a Secret Jardin 40. At least than it would be easy to control the environment. The 150w will be perfect also. I just wish i had some more money to spend t the moment. Its crazy how a carbon filter meant for an axial fan cost only about $20 less than the SJ.

For me i like HPS and want to get back to running that. I wouldn't mind doing a 150w vert grow.

 

[big ballin 88]

Day 46 is here and got some more frosty pics for you. At this point in the game i consider myself to be in the countdown instead of counting up. my yield may not be large but it will be some super smoke.

The one thing that reminds me of grindhouse is this


Group photo


Some frosty Prophet shots

Bubba Pheno


Tang Tang pheno


Mob Boss

Chem pheno and tang tang pheno together


Chem pheno, the lone tall guy



This grow is really exciting for such a small space, not to mention my first micro grow. I'm patiently waiting for my secret jardin 17"x17"x48" and carbon filter. I love these strains and thinking about keeping some mothers to hit with some C99 pollen next time.

When i get the money i'm buying the rest of the beans that Grindhouse has to offer. I love his gear, and even if i don't have room to run it, i wouldn't mind holding onto it. His strains are exactly how he promised and has been super helpful. Grindhouse is the standard for which all other beans are tested against.

 

[Strainhunter]

So what's cookin' with your stuff?

Any news?

 

[#1cheesebuds]

wow wow ur grow looks super dooper great.

 

[big ballin 88]

I'm glad at least one person is following my grow. I snapped some new pix yesterday and will be taking more today when i finish setting up my secret Jardin DR40.

Here is a groupshot at day 53.


Prophet-blockhead Pheno


Prophet-Bubba Pheno


Mob Boss-Chem Pheno


Mob Boss-blockhead pheno


I love how frosty everything is right now. The prophet are amazing by how well they look. I still dont think pictures do my grow justice. Maybe because i suck at taking pictures.

 

[twrex]

I'm glad at least one person is following my grow.

At least two, I lurk.

 

[big ballin 88]

Nice to see your still here twrex. This is my favorite period of the grow, the last 3-4 weeks. Things are already looking great so to go for another couple of weeks is gonna be crazy. I dont check trichs anymore, i find calyx swell works better for me.

I cant wait to get my CMH, but this SJ today will b a great improvement.

 

[big ballin 88]

I decided to try and take some new pictures before the SJ gets here. These are my favorite of each type.

Prophet


Mob BOss

 

[xmobotx]

hey BB everything is lookin great

when you say "calyx swell" what kind of indicators do you look for?

 

[big ballin 88]

hey BB everything is lookin great

when you say "calyx swell" what kind of indicators do you look for?

i know its the improper name, but in the Canna world we call the ovule, a calyx/kalyx. if you take a look at my pictures you can see that the calyx is still rather spear shaped. I find that when plants are mature they tend to get rounder/chunkier at least for Indicas. Small calyx are in my mind a sign of a plant still going. Even sativas fill out more when their ready but may foxtail more when ready in addition to the swell.

Another visible part of the calyx swelling is the reduction of pistil length. Its not so much a reduction as is the calyx swelling and practically swallowing the pistils

Thanks for stopping in.

 

[Fuzz420]

They look great. Definitely diggin the bubba pheno's

 

[xmobotx]

what i mean is the calyxes (no prob w/ verbage) do swell as the plant progresses but what's the trip switch? like when they get more round or is it (like you said) the pistils shortening?

i have a hard time determining 50% on trichs - it kinda seems like they disappear when they aren't white and shiny - in the past, i thought the pistil change was the indicator (50/50) - and maybe going for 'all brown' pistils would work too

i guess if i got serious and decided to pop beans, i would probably just get a loupe

 

[big ballin 88]

They look great. Definitely diggin the bubba pheno's

Fuzz- Nice to see your still around here. I love the Bubba pheno. She's really packing on the sugar and if even remotely touched sets off my room. I'm probably gonna use her for breeding. The other pheno is nothing to be short with either. The way she stands just amazes me and has so much sugar its intense.

Xmobotx- I have the same problem as you do so when i want to see colors on trichs i say screw the microscope and take a macro. It allows me to determine 50%. I only use my pocketscope for looking at dried buds or if i'm interested in them.

I choose when to switch by the calyxes getting rounder. Like i said earlier this usually coordinates with the shorter pistils. All brown pistils can help but its not a sure sign in my mind unless their not super extended. 50/50 usually in my mind is either time to start flushing 2-4 weeks left or a sativa about to start sending out more flowers. Never a harvest when 50/50 pistils though, to imprecise.

I found when looking through a pocketscope its harder to see the amber trichs under HPS and they disappear.

Well heres my babies in their new home.


This Secret Jardin is a cool thing. But just HPS light is killing me, i'm used to the extra blue. I also have to get some ducting and probably a new fan. Thinking about SP td100 would be perfect. It just needs to be quiet.

 

[big ballin 88]

Well i harvested one plant because she was ready to go. I thought that she was straight blockhead dominant but i was wrong. She smells like bubblegum but with a strong hint of kush. I made some charas because after handling this stuff while chopping, my fingers were like super glue. I'm in love and happy to have one early finishing plant.

I will post some of her last pix. She is going to be revegged once this mob boss finishes up.

 

[big ballin 88]

Heres some pictures from before the harvest. Day 56 on this girl. She has some purpling going on underneath on the leaves. Made some super fire charas though thats very pliable.

 

[christoph'sbud]

hey big ballin, looks like your doing a great job! sorry i hadent stopped by earlier! cant wait too see your harvest pics!

 

[xmobotx]

yeah harvest's gettin closer