potentional prices after tc2010?

[larry badiner]

my guess is 100$ ounces, but if we do the math the tax is 1.79$ per gram, so if they were to sell ounces this is what the prices would be:

1g = 3.60$
3.5g = 12.46$
7g = 25.06$
14g = 50.12$
28g = 100$
qp = 400$
hp = 800$
p = 1600$

which sounds fair, im guessing 100$ ounces because thats what sounds fair in my mind, ounces wont go as high as 150$ if tc2010 passes, but thats just a guess...

heres how much tax we'd be paying per bag at 50/ounce:

1g = 1.79$
3.5g = 6.23$
7g = 12.53$
14g = 25.06$
28 = 50$
qp = 200$
hp = 400$
p = 800$

these numbers also double as the profit you would make for selling

 

[larry badiner]

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[Norkali]

...which sounds fair, im guessing 100$ ounces because thats what sounds fair in my mind, ounces wont go as high as 150$ if tc2010 passes,...

 

[larry badiner]

fair as in estimate fair, not in a kid sense heh

 

[smokesalot420]

one sec, let me grab my crystal ball......

Ok now I'm ready! Prices will be $268 an ounce Jan 13, 2011.

Let me think.....

I see a price of $381 an ounce in 2012.

 

[420247]

my guess is 100$ ounces, but if we do the math the tax is 1.79$ per gram, so if they were to sell ounces this is what the prices would be:

1g = 3.60$
3.5g = 12.46$
7g = 25.06$
14g = 50.12$
28g = 100$
qp = 400$
hp = 800$
p = 1600$

which sounds fair, im guessing 100$ ounces because thats what sounds fair in my mind, ounces wont go as high as 150$ if tc2010 passes, but thats just a guess...

heres how much tax we'd be paying per bag at 50/ounce:

1g = 1.79$
3.5g = 6.23$
7g = 12.53$
14g = 25.06$
28 = 50$
qp = 200$
hp = 400$
p = 800$

these numbers also double as the profit you would make for selling

Section 11301: Commercial Regulations and Controls
Notwithstanding any other provision of state or local law, a local government may adopt ordinances, regulations, or other acts having the force of law to control, license, regulate, permit or otherwise authorize, with conditions, the following:
(a) cultivation, processing, distribution, the safe and secure transportation, sale and possession for sale of cannabis, but only by persons and in amounts lawfully authorized;
(b) retail sale of not more than one ounce per transaction, in licensed premises, to persons 21 years or older, for personal consumption and not for resale;
(c) appropriate controls on cultivation, transportation, sales, and consumption of cannabis to strictly prohibit access to cannabis by persons under the age of 21;
(d) age limits and controls to ensure that all persons present in, employed by, or in any way involved in the operation of, any such licensed premises are 21 or older;
(e) consumption of cannabis within licensed premises;
(f) safe and secure transportation of cannabis from a licensed premises for cultivation or processing, to a licensed premises for sale or on-premises consumption of cannabis;
(g) prohibit and punish through civil fines or other remedies the possession, sale, possession for sale, cultivation, processing, or transportation of cannabis that was not obtained lawfully from a person pursuant to this section or section

Your prices are way to low... More hands trying to get a chunk of the pie... Brinks might help keep things "safe and secure" Nobody is going to want to play for pennies

 

[HossCartwright]

my guess is 100$ ounces, but if we do the math the tax is 1.79$ per gram, so if they were to sell ounces this is what the prices would be:

1g = 3.60$
3.5g = 12.46$
7g = 25.06$
14g = 50.12$
28g = 100$
qp = 400$
hp = 800$
p = 1600$

which sounds fair, im guessing 100$ ounces because thats what sounds fair in my mind, ounces wont go as high as 150$ if tc2010 passes, but thats just a guess...

heres how much tax we'd be paying per bag at 50/ounce:

1g = 1.79$
3.5g = 6.23$
7g = 12.53$
14g = 25.06$
28 = 50$
qp = 200$
hp = 400$
p = 800$

these numbers also double as the profit you would make for selling

How in the world did you come up with these numbers and why do you seem to think they would allow one to make more money from selling than today when current prices average around $250/oz?

According to your numbers the net profit on a pound would be about as much as an ounce goes for now. So, WTF you talkin bout willis?

No way I'd grow to sell in that economy.

 

[j242]

lol. all I know is I wont be paying for taxes on cannabis legal or not.

 

[smokesalot420]

I understand Jack Herer's stance on no tax for cannabis, but let's be real here people....

Everyone complains when the roads are messed up, education is cutting 1/2 of their sports and after school programs, the DMV and other state offices are closed on Fridays and our state parks aren't being properly maintained or even manned with rangers like they should be. How are we going to pay for all of this or do we just wait until the local gov't shut's down? We don't need no stinkin traffic lights, right?!

No one likes to compromise, but we (as growers and cannabis consumers) need to take a serious, feasible approach to getting this accomplished or it may never happen....

 

[j242]

I understand Jack Herer's stance on no tax for cannabis, but let's be real here people....

Everyone complains when the roads are messed up, education is cutting 1/2 of their sports and after school programs, the DMV and other state offices are closed on Fridays and our state parks aren't being properly maintained or even manned with rangers like they should be. How are we going to pay for all of this or do we just wait until the local gov't shut's down? We don't need no stinkin traffic lights, right?!

No one likes to compromise, but we (as growers and cannabis consumers) need to take a serious, feasible approach to getting this accomplished or it may never happen....

And when the politicians re-route the cannabis tax money to their own interests then what? We had a lottery that was supposed to benefit the schools remember? What happened to that? Now the Gov wants us to pay outright to fix the roads? lol please do you see where this is going?

 

[mjactivist]

I dont know anyone that breaks it down like that all the way to a gram. $3.60/gram is only $100.80/ounce. It dont matter how much the price drops it anit cool for a guy thats buying an elbow to get the same price per gram as a guy buying a only a single gram. U know what i mean....
IDK what the price will be and I dont care.
It anit about us spending less MONEY on bud!!!!!
LETS MAKE IT LEGAL
L8
MJ

 

[trixman22]

The price of weed is only high because it is illegal. Back during prohibition one bottle of booze could cost $50 and that was way back then. The state is looking at taxing pot as it is priced now, I don't think they want the price to drop. I read something(can't recall it off the top of my head) that said something like they want to tax $50 per Oz grown. I think once it goes legal the quality is gonna drop because a lot of growers are gonna get out of the game since they will only be making a fraction of what they used to make. The good thing is everyone will be allowed to grow.

 

[SOTF420]

There are bottles of wine that routinely sell for thousands of dollars, some even for tens of thousands of dollars. Grapes & wine are perfectly legal to grow and make your own.

Top quality organic Cannabis & sought after strains in high demand will always command higher prices.

Maybe the average price of your ordinary everyday hydro will go down but as the market expands and demand goes up for the good shit prices could actually see an increase once more hands are in the proverbial "pot".

 

[Surfr]

There are bottles of wine that routinely sell for thousands of dollars, some even for tens of thousands of dollars. Grapes & wine are perfectly legal to grow and make your own.

Top quality organic Cannabis & sought after strains in high demand will always command higher prices.

Maybe the average price of your ordinary everyday hydro will go down but as the market expands and demand goes up for the good shit prices could actually see an increase once more hands are in the proverbial "pot".

Yup.

 

[smokesalot420]

And when the politicians re-route the cannabis tax money to their own interests then what? We had a lottery that was supposed to benefit the schools remember? What happened to that? Now the Gov wants us to pay outright to fix the roads? lol please do you see where this is going?

If you're going to bring the of corruption people then you should apply it to everything in life....

If the Gov wants us to fix the roads ourselves (which I haven't heard) it's BECAUSE we don't have enough tax revenue to pay for everything; don't you see that's the direction we're are currently going? I'm thinking of solutions to problems but you are not offering any yourself....

Back on topic with the thread, it is hard to know the change in price if it passes but my guess would be that low and mid-grade will continue to drop and high grade will stay close to where it is currently. Supply and demand is a funny thing that can be hard to predict with so many other variables involved but I think there will be a large increase in people who will smoke low/mids and a small increase in those wanting the highs. Just my opinion

 

[kannubis]

If you're going to bring the of corruption people then you should apply it to everything in life....

If the Gov wants us to fix the roads ourselves (which I haven't heard) it's BECAUSE we don't have enough tax revenue to pay for everything; don't you see that's the direction we're are currently going? I'm thinking of solutions to problems but you are not offering any yourself....

Back on topic with the thread, it is hard to know the change in price if it passes but my guess would be that low and mid-grade will continue to drop and high grade will stay close to where it is currently. Supply and demand is a funny thing that can be hard to predict with so many other variables involved but I think there will be a large increase in people who will smoke low/mids and a small increase in those wanting the highs. Just my opinion

Just my take here, the currently misappropriated tax revenue is more than enough to take care of the infrastructure needs. The problem with the state's coffers is the lack of oversight (or possibly too much government spending on fluff) in the disbursement of tax dollars.

 

[j242]

YAY! The answer is not to KEEP giving money to the GOV HOPING they do the right thing with it. Their track record shows they do not. Here is a suggestion, how about LESS GOVERNMENT!!!???

Queue the Crickets and tumbleweeds!

 

[F_T_P!]

You can already get cheap poorly grown weed for less than $100 an oz right now. A++ herb will always command a good price or else no one will take the time to grow more than their personal stash of A++ and everyone else could piss off!

 

[BigBudBill]

I have heard Emerald Triangle outdoor for $800/lb down here in Bay Area. Currently. Might not be the best, but its damn sure good "smokin on weed". You know, like when you want to smoke out all around you at Shoreline during a Steely Dan show

I think lows/mids will be dirt cheap($100-$125/oz) and the top shelf, AAA quality nugs will be close to $200-$250/oz. Aint speculation fun?

Regardless, as a hobby grower I enjoy growing my own more than anything. It is one of the best pleasures I have ever known, to acquire cuttings and grow them out and to partake in sharing what the plant has produced for me. It makes me feel at one with the universe, as if my piece of the universal puzzle has just been put into place.

I love Cannabis Sativa!

 

[Tommy Trichome]

yeah, I've been seeing outdoor going for around a $1000 in the city lately.. and the A++ outdoor isn't getting anymore than $2K..

personally, as an indoor grower, I CAN NOT go below $3600. if I did, I wouldn't be able to cover my overhead..

2 months ago I shopped an elbo of A++ indoor to 20 dispensaries in the city. only 3 would even look at it! and they all said they wouldn't pay anymore that $3200 for A++ indoor. and they all wanted it on consignment for 6 weeks.. weak!!