Breaking Bad

[rafterman]

I'm wondering whether Gus really meant to whack Walt or it was a ploy to try and flush Jesse out.

I mean if they were going to whack him wouldn't they just take him to the desert not the cook lab. Why give him any warning at all just shoot him in the head somewhere when he is not expecting it?

 

[Lone Wolf]

I'm wondering whether Gus really meant to whack Walt or it was a ploy to try and flush Jesse out.

I mean if they were going to whack him wouldn't they just take him to the desert not the cook lab. Why give him any warning at all just shoot him in the head somewhere where he is not expecting it?

Thats a good point... i dont know why they would think they could get away with just letting jesse run loose while they end walts life... wouldnt gus consider jesse ratting them out to the DEA?




P.S.
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[JacuzziSplot]

I'm wondering whether Gus really meant to whack Walt or it was a ploy to try and flush Jesse out.

I mean if they were going to whack him wouldn't they just take him to the desert not the cook lab. Why give him any warning at all just shoot him in the head somewhere where he is not expecting it?

I dont think they plan on letting cops into the cook lab seems as good a place as any and a decent ploy to get him away from the public.

Good ending I new they wanted Gale to take over the lab from his first appearance. I am impressed with Saul taking Walt and Jesse's side over the cartel.

I wonder if next season he will bring Hank in to bust Gus or Kill Gus and take over those are the 2 directions I see this going in for season 4

 

[minds_I]

Hello all,

My take is Jesse shot Gale...had to.

Now Walt has bought some time and a little leverage but I see those as waning.

Walt needs incriminating evidense such that should something happen to Walt, his family and Jesse the information would be delivered to the DEA implicating Gus.

Anyway, the DEA and the witness protection program may be an out for Walt.

Anyway, how is Gus going to deal with Walt given the obvious tensions that exist. There is no trust.

minds_I

 

[s13sr20det]

so those cartel guys were stealing the chemicals that gus needs to run the lab or something? i was confused as to why mike was shooting up the place

 

[Kalicokitty]

Festivus, I hope you feel bad now with all your "Just kill Saul" talk, lol, he turned out to be the only guy on Walt/Jesse's side, a real stand up brother IMO.

They were most defiantly going to kill Walt, that's why Gus was pressuring gale about when he would be ready to take over.
Walt knew it too.

Jesse shot gale, if he wasn't going to shoot him, then why even fire the gun? It's not like there was someone listening for a gunshot for confirmation, only one reason to fire it, and that's to put one in gale.
It did look like he pulled to the side though, but I think he shot him.

So now what?
Gus will need some kind of leverage against Walt now to insure he can be trusted after all this(killing his dealers, killing gale) I see Gus kidnapping some of Walt's family.
Walt is on borrowed time no matter what now, Gus will kill him sooner or later.

His options are
1. Go to Hank/DEA
2. Go to the opposing cartels(that's what I hope he does) and help set Gus's outfit up to be taken out.
3. Go completely Heisenberg and kill them all himself(He just might, some big chemical spill that releases a poison gas, Walt comes walking out of a cloud of gas and piles of bodies with a gas mask on and drives away) something like that.


Or he could send Skylar out to sit on them all one at a time and crush them to death with her fat ass.

 

[Kalicokitty]

so those cartel guys were stealing the chemicals that gus needs to run the lab or something? i was confused as to why mike was shooting up the place

I think that guy supplied chemicals to gus and the cartel was trying to cut him off.

 

[s13sr20det]

thats kinda what i thought...

http://www.lopeztonight.com/episode...s/bryan_cranston_has_lots_of_fans.php#content

(bryan cranston and aaron paul on lopez tonight)

 

[AcroPhobic]

yeah, i must admit, that scene with the PI gunning down all those china men was quite badass...

Jesse for sure shot gale... we wont know for sure for a LONNNGGGGGG time...

Those were Cartel guys, from Mexico. The old guy(businessman with chemicals) and women(his wife) are asian.

 

[AcroPhobic]

I'm wondering whether Gus really meant to whack Walt or it was a ploy to try and flush Jesse out.

I mean if they were going to whack him wouldn't they just take him to the desert not the cook lab. Why give him any warning at all just shoot him in the head somewhere where he is not expecting it?

In scene where Gus goes to Gales apartment, he's indicating to Gale that Walt wont be around much longer. It was obvious he meant to kill him, thats why he asked "how soon can you take over" and Gale eventually said, after one more cook.

 

[AcroPhobic]

Festivus, I hope you feel bad now with all your "Just kill Saul" talk, lol, he turned out to be the only guy on Walt/Jesse's side, a real stand up brother IMO.

They were most defiantly going to kill Walt, that's why Gus was pressuring gale about when he would be ready to take over.
Walt knew it too.

Jesse shot gale, if he wasn't going to shoot him, then why even fire the gun? It's not like there was someone listening for a gunshot for confirmation, only one reason to fire it, and that's to put one in gale.
It did look like he pulled to the side though, but I think he shot him.

So now what?
Gus will need some kind of leverage against Walt now to insure he can be trusted after all this(killing his dealers, killing gale) I see Gus kidnapping some of Walt's family.
Walt is on borrowed time no matter what now, Gus will kill him sooner or later.

His options are
1. Go to Hank/DEA
2. Go to the opposing cartels(that's what I hope he does) and help set Gus's outfit up to be taken out.
3. Go completely Heisenberg and kill them all himself(He just might, some big chemical spill that releases a poison gas, Walt comes walking out of a cloud of gas and piles of bodies with a gas mask on and drives away) something like that.


Or he could send Skylar out to sit on them all one at a time and crush them to death with her fat ass.

Exactly. My thoughts.

 

[festivus]

If you take out the scene where Mike shoots up the cartel guys, it would be a pretty bland episode- imho it was added to keep the violence level where we would expect for the season finale.

Kali, Saul showed he's got some balls... until threatened. Mike will figure out Saul duped him and then it's curtains! lol

Walt didn't hesitate to give Jesse up when he was about to get whacked. hmmm

I hope Walt goes full on Heisenberg next season. Oh well, see all you crazy BB fans next year (hopefully not 2012).

 

[Kalicokitty]

Walt didn't hesitate to give Jesse up when he was about to get whacked. hmmm

Not at all, Walt in no way gave Jesse up, he pretended to in order to make the call to him, and put him on gale asap so they would both have a chance.

Anything else and they would have killed Walt, and then tracked down Jesse and killed him too.

 

[AcroPhobic]

Not at all, Walt in no way gave Jesse up, he pretended to in order to make the call to him, and put him on gale asap so they would both have a chance.

Anything else and they would have killed Walt, and then tracked down Jesse and killed him too.

Exactly! Sometimes I wonder if people/fans of show actually "pay attention" when watching.

 

[Noobian]

In scene where Gus goes to Gales apartment, he's indicating to Gale that Walt wont be around much longer. It was obvious he meant to kill him, thats why he asked "how soon can you take over" and Gale eventually said, after one more cook.

My question is if Walt had not killed those two dealers would his life even have been in danger? Would Gus have had Walt killed even if he didn't kill the dealers? The way it played out it seemed as though Gus' trying to kill Walt was retaliation for his killing his men, but that doesn't make much sense if Walt is so valuable to him. And if Gus would have killed Walt whether he killed the dealers or not then why was there all of sudden a rush to kill off Walt? Couldn't he have just bided his time until Gale was 100% sure of the process then done it? Seemed like they were rushing for some reason. And why were Gale and Gus so close like that? More questions than answers were left after watching last night that's for sure!

 

[Snootch]

Gus was going to kill off Walt eventually no matter what, presumably once Gale was ready, but I assume Walts killing of the 2 dealers but Gus' plan to kill Walt on to the fasttrack.

 

[Mr. Bongjangles]

If you take out the scene where Mike shoots up the cartel guys, it would be a pretty bland episode- imho it was added to keep the violence level where we would expect for the season finale.

I swear this is the only scene in the episode I am left wondering about...

The reason he did it is pretty wild.. The cartel had sent people to Gus's chemical supplier to prevent the precursor chemicals from making it to the lab.

Basically this indicates they know full well Gus has set up his own lab and is producing mass amounts of meth. Even know where he is sourcing the chemicals, wtf.

I know they had some issues, but it seemed like the people Gus had beef with were taken down by the DEA and that he wasn't sweating cartel interference. Mike killed the remaining assassin in the hospital before he could tell anyone that Gus had given permission for the hit on Hank.

So like, I'm wondering what has happened in the background between those events and this scene they showed tonight, which indicates some serious conflict between Gus and the cartel, and seems to indicate they somehow know way more than they should.

Perhaps the cartel was involved in building the lab, I dunno. Seems like it was all Gus though. Earlier, Gus told the cartel people he "occasionally uses local suppliers" or something like that, making it pretty clear they do not expect or believe that he is producing his own on a large scale. So like, they really shouldn't have found out about the lab in the meantime, right?

 

[Noobian]

Good questions Mr B. The way I see it the cartel knows 1. Heisenberg is making blue meth. 2. Gus' reups for their "inferior" cartel meth have been waaaay down for the last few months. 3. Blue meth is being distributed widely throughout the SE USA, and (as far as we know), exclusively in Gus' territory. 4. The hitmen they sent to kill Heisenberg ended up dead thanks to a rouge DEA agent who also happened to kill their cousin.

I think with all that information they were able to *off camera* put two and two together, and the scene we saw at the chinese factory was the result of that. I bet next season we'll get some filler to that little storyline.

Two bong hits later....

Actually now that I typed that I'm thinking maybe the cartel has no clue who is making the blue meth, but they do know who all the major suppliers are for it and if they sat on one (the chinese guy) then whoever is making the blue stuff will come a knocking eventually. The way the chinese guy acted he was not a willing participant in the cartel's plan so I think they found out who was the supplier of the main precursor and set it up to ambush them. That actually makes more sense than what I first wrote now that I think about it

 

[ItIsTime]

it could be very complicated like that...or Gus is just doing what most leaders in drug businesses do...off anyone who disrespects or disobeys you, no matter the consequences.

Gus knows he can find another chemist, but Walt is the golden gem in a sea full of half-assed chemists and junkies.

My prediction?

IDK if Jesse shot Gale. Being it faded to black he could have shot him...or someone came up behind Jesse and shot Jesse.

We know Walt can't work for Gus anymore...it's pointless...Gus wants him dead, has tried to kill him...why in the fuck would Walt go back and work for him? I think there's going to be a power struggle, and Walt will be somehow involved in killing Gus. I think Gus's assassin (other bald dude) may play a bigger part in the storyline next season due to us liking his character, up until he tried to kill Walt. Who knows..

 

[MarquisBlack]

I think that Jesse shot Gale, though I don't think he went for the headshot. They show him moving the gun-barrel to the side before the bang. He may have simply injured Gale to prevent him from cooking. Or he may have discharged into the wall to scare Gale, to then give Gale the opportunity to GTFO of dodge.

Gonna be a long year. Fuckin' cliffhangers.