Lazyman's 16KW Headbanger

[Lazyman]

Alright, went to the basement last night and cut a hole in the floor of my mom room, and connected my ozone cannon to it so it blows cold air from under the house into veg. Dropped the temp in there 7*F in 15 minutes, not bad! I left the fan on 24X7 and the timer runs just for 15 minutes an hour for the ozone. Pulled a few more clones that didn't make it (gotta love spares!) and pulled off a couple armloads of dead leaves in flower.

Been shopping AC's, found a guy on Ebay sells new Mr Slims with the odd dent or scratch for about 1/3 the price, might have to grab a couple 3 tons and a 2-ton for veg. Gonna be fun!

 

[AgraMed]

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Been shopping AC's, found a guy on Ebay sells new Mr Slims with the odd dent or scratch for about 1/3 the price, might have to grab a couple 3 tons and a 2-ton for veg. Gonna be fun!

Be careful, my bud bought 3 of them from different sellers and 2 out of the 3 got damaged badly by UPS.

UPS claimed it was "packaging error" by the customer.

Go figure!

 

[Sandnut]

really good I forgot that i posted here about the pic with your friend in it, but i see its gone now, good, keep it up man!

 

[Lazyman]

Thanks Agramed, yeah I had a problem like that once with some fiberglass fenders, more like fiberglass chunks in a box!

All is well, I discovered that my intake filter had clogged up and raised flower temps by over 7 degrees! Good lord, amazing what a huge difference something so tiny makes. Here I was, improving exhaust, adding intakes, adding fans, and the room kept getting hotter!

Man I can't wait for AC so I don't have to deal with all that shit anymore, It's gonna be SWEEET!

 

[Flying High]

Thanks Agramed, yeah I had a problem like that once with some fiberglass fenders, more like fiberglass chunks in a box!

All is well, I discovered that my intake filter had clogged up and raised flower temps by over 7 degrees! Good lord, amazing what a huge difference something so tiny makes. Here I was, improving exhaust, adding intakes, adding fans, and the room kept getting hotter!

Man I can't wait for AC so I don't have to deal with all that shit anymore, It's gonna be SWEEET!

Clogged intake filter? Thank you for that tip!!! I haven't cleaned mine in a few months...

H

 

[Lazyman]

No problem FH, yeah mine was pretty covered by bugs and dirt, amazing!

 

[Flying High]

Lazyman, would you have a recommendation for a variable temperature control for a solid-state fan?
I have a Grozone TV-2, but it is not solid state, and thus makes the motor unhappy(the dreaded buzz).
I have been looking at the Phason VTC-1 that Dongle was using, just no local availability....

Aircooling really sucks some days! On the positive side, I no longer need to vacuum the house, I only have to vacuum in front of the grow room door where everything in the house seems to get sucked to now. I thought a better sealing wiper under the door would help this; instead it whistles like a blade of grass being blown on.

too much fun
H

 

[Raphael]

Aircooling really sucks some days! On the positive side, I no longer need to vacuum the house, I only have to vacuum in front of the grow room door where everything in the house seems to get sucked to now. I thought a better sealing wiper under the door would help this; instead it whistles like a blade of grass being blown on.

too much fun
H

Nice haha. When the 8" and 6" exhausts are on you can let out a hit and follow it to the rooms.

What type of filter do you have on the intake Lazy? For a furnace?

Cheers

 

[Lazyman]

Lazyman, would you have a recommendation for a variable temperature control for a solid-state fan?
I have a Grozone TV-2, but it is not solid state, and thus makes the motor unhappy(the dreaded buzz).
I have been looking at the Phason VTC-1 that Dongle was using, just no local availability....

Aircooling really sucks some days! On the positive side, I no longer need to vacuum the house, I only have to vacuum in front of the grow room door where everything in the house seems to get sucked to now. I thought a better sealing wiper under the door would help this; instead it whistles like a blade of grass being blown on.

too much fun
H

Yeah I have one of those Phasons, loaned it to a buddy but its good stuff. I don't think it's a variac controller though, my fans were not any quieter with it than they are with any other triac. It WILL control multiple fans better than a GroZone, I burned out a couple Speedsters learning this lesson (trying to speed-control 3X12" Vortexes.) The Phason can do it, the cheaper controllers can't.

 

[Lazyman]

Nice haha. When the 8" and 6" exhausts are on you can let out a hit and follow it to the rooms.

What type of filter do you have on the intake Lazy? For a furnace?

Cheers

Hehe, right on, I am currently using 4X12" Vortexes on exhaust, 1 8" Vortex on intake in flower, and one 8" duct booster fan on intake in veg. Temps dropped from 85*F in flower to 78*F overnight, just by pulling off my dirty filter.

I tried a furnace filter but they don't flow air for SHIT, might as well turn the fan off. I used a bug net screen from the hydro shop, but I think any fine wire mesh screen (like screen-door netting) would be best. Something that flows better than paper and is washable is a good idea I think.

 

[Flying High]

Yeah I have one of those Phasons, loaned it to a buddy but its good stuff. I don't think it's a variac controller though, my fans were not any quieter with it than they are with any other triac. It WILL control multiple fans better than a GroZone, I burned out a couple Speedsters learning this lesson (trying to speed-control 3X12" Vortexes.) The Phason can do it, the cheaper controllers can't.

Interesting.... I was hoping the Phason would eliminate the buzzing my 12" Elicent fan makes when I slow it down via a Speedster or the Grozone TV-2.

I have accepted the motor buzzing for almost two years; but after reading about other people's experiences with Variacs recently, I am on a mission to slow this fan down without making it louder. I may have to build Harry G's DIY controller from the link-o-rama???

thanks for the input, appreciated as always
H

 

[Lazyman]

Ya know, I gotta tell you my same fan installed horizontally was quieter than my fan installed vertically, but try playing with it and see if it makes any difference on yours. Is the fan the loudest thing in the room?

 

[ilovethewest]

i just finished building and installing a plywood box, then filled it with expanding foam, dropped an inline fan in there, with a 90degree elbow out each side. it make the strength of the buzzing so much lower. try it out on a fan its kinda cool how much it reduces the vibration part of the sound.

 

[Flying High]

I have mine run horizontal in this room and vertical in one of the others; the vertically hung filter produces much more air noise for sure... The fan is not as loud as my dehumidifier?

The air noise I can handle at full speed, it is the buzzing when I slow the fan down that is the issue. I could almost handle a consistent buzz, but when it is a buzzing sound that pulses it is hard for me to sleep, and nearly impossible for my old lady to sleep.

I am thinking about installing another fan/filter for use at night. I have done this once before, but it scares the crap out of me to have my exhaust fan on a timer.

The other option is to build a thermostat I guess....

Thanks for the help and sorry for jacking you thread.
H

 

[Flying High]

I like the foam box idea as well. Is hat build up an issue? The airflow cools the fans, right?

 

[ganja_hasi]

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[Lazyman]

Thanks guys! On my 8KW grow I wrapped the fans in about a foot of mattress-type foam, it helped quiet them immensely and was cheap and easy, just tied a rope around it to hold it tight. Certainly wasn't the loudest thing in the room anymore!

 

[dtfsux]

we had some can fan max, 12" I think, on can 150's. They always made more noise when laid horizontal, then vertical. With everything else we had running, it was no big deal, just an observation we made.

 

[Flying High]

Alright, I think I figured the fan thing out.

The tech support person at Continental Fan(Elicent dist.) told me that the speed control must be solid state and provide constant power to the capacitor while regulating RPM. She said many speed controls do not provide a third wire to the capacitor???
I ordered one of their speed controls to see how it compares. I'm off to open up my speed controls and check things out.

H

 

[Cheeb]

I know you already own the fan, but check out the Can Fan MAX 10" and 14".

I've seen both in action and they are near silent. Its amazing that the 14" can move that much air and barely make any noise. I was standing next to one (with no ducting attached to it mind you) and it was very very quiet.

The 8in and 12in needs variac to slow em down (and didnt work well with my grozone temp2), but the 10in and 14in should work fine with anything.