How about you rush limbaugh and all these other asshats get on a raft and float over and go live in china. Then you can tell me how bad america is....
CAN"T BELIEVE THIS SHIT WITH MARK EMERY GOING TO JAIL!
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How about you rush limbaugh and all these other asshats get on a raft and float over and go live in china. Then you can tell me how bad america is....
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Have a fat one : )
Have a fat one : )
There's a big difference in growing out a breeders seeds, lying and saying they are original stock, then putting your own name on it and telling the lineage.
That statement you made regarding Gypsy and Emery doing the same thing is plain foolish. There's no comparison between the two.
This thread is drifting off into political arguments. We're not going there.
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Never said there was, infact wasn't even me that brought Gypsy up and I didn't see anything wrong with what Gypsy did. Defensive much? And yes I see a different Emery, because I have actually seen him regularly and don't have to rely on hearsay as most commenting here have. Rumors are easy to spread, but rarely make the spreader look intelligent. Sorry you are so jaded, hope you will be ok. Peace GS
ps. nice Karnac impression on Gypsy's thoughts
ps. nice Karnac impression on Gypsy's thoughts
fascism wins again... my last comment and the comment i was replying to have been removed without any explanation. freedom of speech FAIL.
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I saw what you wrote and gave ya credit. Those points have been made and they have chosen to ignore them. Blinders are the easy way. Peace GS
lol yea i got to keep the credit points thankfully, but now it says it was on the thread "N/A" lol sigh...
I don't enjoy seeing anyone go to jail for anything cannabis related....as far as I am concerned those of us that have been incarcerated and continue to be are the victims of a victimless crime, Mr Emery included....
There are many of us within this industry that have different ways of approaching and tackling the obvious draconian laws that most governments perpetrate against growers, breeders medicinal and recreational users of cannabis....
From the basic home grower/cannabis enthusiast to the most vociferous political activists we are all in some way making a difference and can see progress towards possible.... eventual understanding, tolerance and legalization of cannabis....
The U.S.A. is the country that has enforced cannabis prohibition the most, not only within it's own borders but world-wide since the 1930's and has spent Billions of American tax payers dollars on trying to eradicate it (in vain) whilst persecuting millions of people for being involved and continues to do so.....and has managed to get nearly every other country on the planet to follow suit......why?...well without some fabricated 'evil' or 'enemy of the people' to rally the masses around most politicians and the corporations they work for would be a lot poorer wealth-wise methinks......without these manufactured and propaganderized 'evils' and 'enemies of the people'..... the people they represent would most probably be much healthier, less fearful, more free and much, much more cheerful....
There are many of us within this industry that have different ways of approaching and tackling the obvious draconian laws that most governments perpetrate against growers, breeders medicinal and recreational users of cannabis....
From the basic home grower/cannabis enthusiast to the most vociferous political activists we are all in some way making a difference and can see progress towards possible.... eventual understanding, tolerance and legalization of cannabis....
The U.S.A. is the country that has enforced cannabis prohibition the most, not only within it's own borders but world-wide since the 1930's and has spent Billions of American tax payers dollars on trying to eradicate it (in vain) whilst persecuting millions of people for being involved and continues to do so.....and has managed to get nearly every other country on the planet to follow suit......why?...well without some fabricated 'evil' or 'enemy of the people' to rally the masses around most politicians and the corporations they work for would be a lot poorer wealth-wise methinks......without these manufactured and propaganderized 'evils' and 'enemies of the people'..... the people they represent would most probably be much healthier, less fearful, more free and much, much more cheerful....
i couldn't agree more... it's just such a shame that people aren't as outraged as they aught to be about these sort of issues as it almost justifies them when no one says a peep. we all hope that in the near future things will change for the better and marijuana will be seen in the light it deserves, but it's 2010, 80 yrs after all this nonsense started, i wouldn't be surprised, though even more shamed, if in another 50 years things are as they are now thanks to the "greatest country in the world", the US.
ps. much respect for your work gypsy, thanks for having your say.
darwin
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Hallelujah Gypsy. Its all I have been saying all along. Much respect. Peace GS
ps. c'mon Randude what'd ya say?
ps. c'mon Randude what'd ya say?
If you were to take all the money that has been and still is put into the futile pursuit of eradicating cannabis cultivation and distribution and used it to actually help your nations people instead of building more prisons to lock them up in, hiring more law enforcers and the whole paycheck-food-chain of government and private employees hell-bent on destroying the lives of those you continue to victimize....for a victimless crime.....
If you were to legalize cannabis, tax it's sale as you do other inebriates such as alcohol, tobacco, coffee and tea and use those funds to better the lives of your nations people...
....don't you think this would create more harmony and wealth within society?....I do.
If you were to legalize cannabis, tax it's sale as you do other inebriates such as alcohol, tobacco, coffee and tea and use those funds to better the lives of your nations people...
....don't you think this would create more harmony and wealth within society?....I do.
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How come so many folks in the US cannot see this? Anyways this thread seems to have gone its course. Thanks to all those who had opinions. Peace GS
ps. sorry to those in this thread from the US that have shown they see it as wrong
ps. sorry to those in this thread from the US that have shown they see it as wrong
most definitely, i know canada spends 500 million a year on the courts and drug offenses, 400 million of that is marijuana related. leaving only 100 million for other drugs like cocaine and heroin... america is at about 12 BILLION dollars a year against marijuana, instead of combatting drug issues properly, it makes the crimes worse, hires more law enforcers, lawyers, judges, and makes bigger prisons and longer sentences so these prisons stay full. they are making too much money from marijuana (as well as other drugs and crimes) to ever want it to be legal. and yes imagine if they took that 12 billion dollars a year and put it into their shitty health care system, or into education... but then the prisons would be empty, 1000s of people wouldn't have jobs as lawyers, police officers, prison wardens etc. the gov. only seems to be able to see that latter side of the issue, the negative effects of legalisation, which in themselves aren't directly a cause of the drug or its use, and the positive effects, the NUMEROUS positive effects are ignored. it is a hell of a shame.
50 000 000 american's smoke marijuana each year, not a single death has ever been attributed to marijuana use alone. somewhere close to 500 000 people a year die from diseases and issues directly attributable to alcohol and tobacco and yet my friends and many others tell me marijuana's illegal because it's "a health risk" and that "the government doesn't want something that dangerous to be legal" what a F*CKING crock of shit, when tobacco does nothing but kill people and is perfectly legal. the gov. care for money, not for the average person's well being.
hopefully we wake up one day.
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I think part of whats keeping it illegal is the folks having to admit they were wrong. That they have unjustly incarcerated millions needlessly. Not too mention financial compensation for wrong doing. Its just easier to feed the machine, than kill it. Peace GS
yeah that's it, but even if they change the laws those people will be released and the gov. wouldn't be liable because at the time of those peoples' incarceration they had broken the law whether or not it's illegal now. so they won't have to financially recompensate them. mmm it's just terrifyingly amusing that america would rather keep this up than really better their country, their people, their society. it's frightening.
Prohibiting and making a substance illegal that is in very high demand by a nations people.....especially a non-toxic product such as the plant cannabis that can easily be grown in any basement, loft, room or private greenhouse is doomed to failure....
You would have thought that the lesson would have been learned 80 years ago when alcohol was prohibited and it's production went underground so giving enormous un-taxable funds to those that took the required risks to manufacture and distribute it ....this all led to gang/gangster wars on the streets of the U.S.A perpetrated by those that were fighting over the unregulated and then illegal business....
It's all kind of similar in many ways today as in what is going on with the Mexican Cartels fighting over distribution rights for cannabis within the U.S.A......
Prohibition creates war.....it's quite obvious.....
You would have thought that the lesson would have been learned 80 years ago when alcohol was prohibited and it's production went underground so giving enormous un-taxable funds to those that took the required risks to manufacture and distribute it ....this all led to gang/gangster wars on the streets of the U.S.A perpetrated by those that were fighting over the unregulated and then illegal business....
It's all kind of similar in many ways today as in what is going on with the Mexican Cartels fighting over distribution rights for cannabis within the U.S.A......
Prohibition creates war.....it's quite obvious.....
yeah that's it, they're fighting an uphill battle, but the battle is fueling their economy. if they ran out of criminals tomorrow there'd be a heap of jobs lost, companies that rely on crime like pharmaceutical companies producing drug tests by the billions per year, prison companies needing more criminals to make money from etc would be out of pocket and so would the gov.
people are going to have to get together more and more and fight the gov and force them to change and recognise these issues are futile in fighting. the same with gay marriage. a lot of these issues are tied in with conservatism and the american christians.
people are going to have to get together more and more and fight the gov and force them to change and recognise these issues are futile in fighting. the same with gay marriage. a lot of these issues are tied in with conservatism and the american christians.
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Wow real discussion in this thread. I stand corrected. This ones not done.Thanks for your opinions folks. Peace GS
Yes...the establishment is only there because it is funded by the tax payers that have to be brain-washed into fearing something enough that they will gladly fund the cost of trying to eradicate what the politicians have managed to 'scapegoat' with their propaganda .....and the media is a very powerful tool they have in their arsenal to be able to do this with.....
My own Mother grew up thru these times where she was a target of what the politicians were saying wrongly about cannabis.....and when she found out that I was using it she went into a 'raging fury' and tried to burn my room down in my youth.....
Twenty years later I gave her some seeds to grow in her small greenhouse behind her caravan in the South of England because she found out that using cannabis in a vapourizer helped her osteo-arthritis......and that she then did not have to use all of these pharmaceutical concoctions that the doctor was prescribing her that had quite sever side effects and were actually making her sick....
My own Mother grew up thru these times where she was a target of what the politicians were saying wrongly about cannabis.....and when she found out that I was using it she went into a 'raging fury' and tried to burn my room down in my youth.....
Twenty years later I gave her some seeds to grow in her small greenhouse behind her caravan in the South of England because she found out that using cannabis in a vapourizer helped her osteo-arthritis......and that she then did not have to use all of these pharmaceutical concoctions that the doctor was prescribing her that had quite sever side effects and were actually making her sick....
yeah good old fox news. and yeah don't you love how america just declares war on all it's issues, the war on drugs, the war on terror, the war on poverty.... but nothing ever changes. because the war earns money, ending the war means they'd get no income.
you'll love this Bill Hicks - War on drugs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC8eURJZpy0
ps. i'm sorry to hear about your mother, but glad she came around in the end and that marijuana's helping her more than the drugs.
darwin
you'll love this Bill Hicks - War on drugs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC8eURJZpy0
ps. i'm sorry to hear about your mother, but glad she came around in the end and that marijuana's helping her more than the drugs.
darwin
