my soil is COOKING almost killed plants help!

[Maina]

Ok This is my soil mix
composted chicken shit
kelp meal
azomite
dolomite lime
compost
peat
all mixed up put in 100 and 50 gallon smart pots the mix set for a week the shit is COOKING I cant even keep my hand down in the middle of the pot how long will this last? I want to plant soon.Thanks

 

[vonforne]

composted chicken shit

How much of this did you use? It should not be that hot.

V

 

[superbolan]

you should have let it cook 3-4 weeks before using it. stirring it up and letting it air get to it might help

 

[guest2012y]

If it really is hot (warm) to the touch....it's the chicken shit.
You can't always trust something that says,"fully composted"....give it a couple weeks,make sure it's moist. Checking it with a thermometer on a daily basis will give you an idea of how long it really takes.

 

[Maina]

yea man its hot over 100 deg !I was thinking it was the chicken shit to.Im going to let it set another weak atleast and put all the plants in 5 gallon rubermaids so the keep growing and then add them to the mix

 

[Maina]

Its Tome hills mix I added kelp and azomite to it to

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

Yeah but, even when it's cooled off it could still be too 'hot'. It's not just the physical heat of composting organic matter that burns plants. A mix like that should be 'thinned' with lots of crushed gravel, sand, turface or whatever.

 

[Tom Hill]

I use

25 bags black gold potting soil (1.5cf ea)

4 bags stutzman farms (3-2-2) chicken manure (1 cf ea)

1 bag perlite (4 cf ea)

1 bag (50 lbs) bonemeal (steamed, not precipitated)

1/2 bag gypsum (20lbs)

I mix well, water thoroughly, and let rest before planting for 2-3 weeks minimum. I have measured temps of approximately 125f at around the one week mark - don't plant in soil that hot.

April 22

May 26

 

[vonforne]

Mr. G is correct. When the soil cools that means the CS has been converted in to the ionic for for plants t absorb.........and that means quick death for the plants. I would also cut the soil mix with EWC, Compost and or peat.

V

 

[vonforne]

TomHill

are you running CFL´s over those plants at night?

V

 

[VerdantGreen]

yeah i would handle that mix with care as mr g says - perhaps put a buffer of lighter soil without all the nutes near the rootzone when you repot and then give the roots the choice of when they want to come up against the rich soil

`VG

 

[Tom Hill]

TomHill

are you running CFL´s over those plants at night?

V

Yes sir, 23w per, and for another 2-3 weeks. -T

 

[vonforne]

Yes sir, 23w per, and for another 2-3 weeks. -T

My man you are a ´one of a kind´

Thanks for all you do.

V

 

[treefrog]

TomHill

are you running CFL´s over those plants at night?

V

You have to have them if you want the diggity dank..

They are novel pictures if nothing else, like some kind of stoner Yuletide, LOL.

 

[Tom Hill]

Treefrog, are you just being a smart-ass? The lighting is there so that clones can be transplanted out early without fear of premature budding. In two weeks, when these forums are FILLED with folks crying about their plants going into budding and their season devastated, come back here again and tell us that the lights are good for nothing but novelty pics.

Thanks Vonforne, the sentiment is mutual. -T

 

[treefrog]

Treefrog, are you just being a smart-ass? The lighting is there so that clones can be transplanted out early without fear of premature budding. In two weeks, when these forums are FILLED with folks crying about their plants going into budding and their season devastated, come back here again and tell us that the lights are good for nothing but novelty pics.

Thanks Vonforne, the sentiment is mutual. -T

I was being a smart ass, but really have nothing but respect for you, Tom. I didn't realize that's what the lights were for, so I apologize for my ignorance. No disrespect intended. Sometimes things don't translate well in this format!

Have a good one!

 

[Tom Hill]

Thanks for the clarification Treefrog, I often read/read into things the wrong way as well. Respect back at ya amigo. -T

 

[ROOTWISE]

Just for further clarification.......

 

[Dorje113]

Just for further clarification.......

Wow, you keeping a log anywhere? Those are going to be monsters!

 

[ROOTWISE]

Yes, link is in my signature.

Sorry if I offended by sidetracking your thread...

Tom's advice should get you all set on your current soil heat, best wishes for a great 2010!