Rand Paul wins Senate Primary, soon to be a pro-legalization senator!

[White-rhino]

You can say "I want the US to be a "democratic republic" but that doesn't make it so. Lets stick to the facts. And one of those facts is, just because the constitution has been undermined by socialist for the past 200 years, doesn't change anything. And as someone once said (Karl Marx) "Democracy is the road to socialism". Thats the reason leftists are always falsely harping about "democracy".

"Democracy and Socialism are inseparable." - Vladimir Ilich Lenin

 

[Fuzz420]

and the fact is its a democratic-republic. People like to toss words around like fabian socialism,plutocracy, and facism, but fact of the matter at our very roots, we are a democratic-republic.You have done nothing to dispute the facts i layed in my previous post to disprove the democratic-republic.

Troll tactics

 

[darrylRouson]

According to the CIA World Factbook the United States of America's government type is a Constitution-based federal republic with a strong democratic tradition. (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html)

Anyways the issue was whether public places have the right to ban people based on race. You guys managed to mis-understand the issue, thinking the issue was restricting a business owner's speech, or restricting private clubs like gay bars from banning straight people. Try learning what is actually in the 1964 civil rights act, before discussing the 1964 civil rights act.

Pop question hot-shots - Which of these does the 1964 civl rights address?
1) putting up a sign no black people allowed in a restaurant
2) putting up a sign no black people allowed in a KKK rally
3) putting up a sign that says black people smell like potatoes

Answer?
#1, and only 1.

1) a public venue prohibiting based on race - NOT OK
2) a private club prohibiting based on race - OK
3) a public venue expressing it's opinion - OK

You have 2 parties rights at play. The business owner's rights, the patron's rights. Sane people seek a balance that is fair to both parties. Don't want black people in your restaurant? don't open a public restaurant.

 

[White-rhino]

and the fact is its a democratic-republic. People like to toss words around like fabian socialism,plutocracy, and facism, but fact of the matter at our very roots, we are a democratic-republic.You have done nothing to dispute the facts i layed in my previous post to disprove the democratic-republic.

Troll tactics

Not my burden. You are making the assertion. Prove it. List the place in the constitution I can read which proves your assertion. If it isn't there, it isn't so

A quick primer for anyone willing to learn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M-7LkvcVw

 

[Fuzz420]

My point is already proven.Educate yourself. Good day

 

[darrylRouson]

Not my burden. You are making the assertion. Prove it. List the place in the constitution I can read which proves your assertion.

Careful throwing big words around like assertion. He might not understand it.

 

[Fuzz420]

Careful throwing big words around like assertion. He might not understand it.

but your so arrogant , you actually think you disproved what i said, but in fact you only proved it.

Thanks guys.

 

[darrylRouson]

but your so arrogant , you actually think you disproved what i said, but in fact you only proved it.

I did disprove you. 5 posts up before you kept shitting on the thread, asshole. a gov site. show me up

PS> you're not your. "my so arrogant" does not compute.

 

[darrylRouson]

A quick primer for anyone willing to learn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M-7LkvcVw

Fabulous video. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Fuzz420]

According to the CIA World Factbook the United States of America's government type is a Constitution-based federal republic with a strong democratic tradition. (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html)

You should read what you post.

Troll tactics

Im done with you kids, you have proved nothing but my point, and this disinformation agenda that your trying to pursue is sad and quite embarrassing. The global establishment does not care about you, and the moment you think they do they will throw you to the wolves. Good luck

 

[darrylRouson]

Its not a "democratic republic". There is no such concept. Its a republic. Please stay on topic!

republic - A republic government is a type of government where the citizens choose the leaders of their country.
democracy - majority rule: the doctrine that the numerical majority of an organized group can make decisions binding on the whole group

you are introducing some new made up concept. The burden of articulation is on you to describe what the fuck you're trying to say.

LOL at those who don't know what type of government it is and trying to partake in political conversation. Did we really just spend a whole page arguing a simple fact you can look up in Google? I don't see how we can have an intelligent discussion & yet can't even agree on (or acknowledge rather) simple, easily verifiable facts.

 

[ItsGrowTime]

You're confusing private property with a public place, you constitutional scholar you. Your private house is not a public venue like a concert hall or lunch counter that is open to the public.

You're being very loose with definitions. Not a surprise. The word "public" means anywhere under control of the government, such as a park or a courthouse. A restaurant is not "public". It is "private" but the general public is allowed in. Are you really suggesting your local concert pub is not private property? Are you suggesting that your corner diner is not private property?

If you are open to the public, you cannot put up a no niggers sign. You guys are disagreeing with that. Pretty fucked up.

What you fail to recognize is there is no legal difference between your place of business and your home. Both are considered "private property". Do you discriminate who comes into your home? Then why can't you discriminate who comes into your business? I don't particularly care what you think is "fucked up". Your feelings aren't important to me. I tend to enjoy logic, not emotional arguments.

"why is a 40 year old law the important topic of the day?"
Because Rand Paul expressed disagreements with it, ask him, not me. 90% of America is going to make a big deal because it is one.

No one is mandating your speech or actions, just forcing you to allow equal access to your public venue. Stop diluting the issue.

PRIVATE PROPERTY IS NOT A PUBLIC VENUE! What part of that do you not understand? It is private property that someone ALLOWS the public access to. You are confusing "public" with "open to the public". If I own a restaurant, I am legally within my right to keep the doors locked and not let anybody in. Why couldn't I choose who to let in instead? I don't care about what's "fair" so save that non-legal argument for those that argue with emotions instead of logic. Fairness doesn't exist and it never has.

Can we start talking about something that matters today? You know, like the 20% unemployment rate and that yesterday was the largest one-day drop in the DJIA in the past year. Stuff that matters, not distractions about philosophical discussions of 45 year old laws.

 

[Fuzz420]

I like how you try and be slick and make a post, then try to ninja edit like you typed it all the first time

Troll Tactics

You disinformation campaign wont work on me.

 

[Texicannibus]

Cmon guys no big deal really no reason to get into semantics... Is a common misperception and lots of people believe this is a democratic republic... Ive even caught myself saying it and Im well aware of the facts. Is nice to get the facts out though.

I think Rand Paul will be a strong libertarian voice in washington something I desire very much. Hopefully we see more strong libertarians like him and his father. The 'federalist' have taken over both parties ... lol

 

[Harinama]

Rand's believes do not coincide with mine, so i do NOT want him in the Senate, whether or not he supports mj legalization.

just my 2cents..

 

[GP73LPC]

Cmon guys no big deal really no reason to get into semantics... Is a common misperception and lots of people believe this is a democratic republic... Ive even caught myself saying it and Im well aware of the facts. Is nice to get the facts out though.

I think Rand Paul will be a strong libertarian voice in washington something I desire very much. Hopefully we see more strong libertarians like him and his father. The 'federalist' have taken over both parties ... lol

we are a republic...

just google "united states republic vs democracy" and educate yourself...

on the subject of the Pauls, i agree we need something different than the two branches of the federalist we currently have...

 

[Texicannibus]

Im not arguing GP I agree it is not a democracy. I only said that there is a common misperception... are you actually arguing that? /shrug

 

[Danks2005]

Rand's believes do not coincide with mine, so i do NOT want him in the Senate, whether or not he supports mj legalization.

just my 2cents..

In a free country, everyones beliefs should be protected, even those with which you disagree, and that is what Rand Paul believes in.

 

[Danks2005]

Democracy is a political form of government carried out either directly by the people (direct democracy) or by means of elected representatives of the people, as if the people and the elected person were one

A republic government is a type of government where the citizens choose the leaders of their country [1] and the people (or at least a part of its people)[2] have an impact on its government

These are the definitions of Democracy, and Republic. Regardless of what it's called, how can you argue that the US is not a blend of these two forms of gov't

 

[GP73LPC]

Im not arguing GP I agree it is not a democracy. I only said that there is a common misperception... are you actually arguing that? /shrug

no, i agree there is a common mis-perception...

that part of my post was not really directed at you, but some others in the thread... sorry i didn't make that clear.