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Anti's MicroStealth Cab Design (Dr. Bud Method)
Elephunk
Member
anti I really admire your design and will probably be making my own exactly, but with a slightly wider flower cab.
Have you run this with a fully packed flower chamber of 36? I'm wondering how the yields will be affected when the box is much more full and there is less room per clone to swell up.
Have you run this with a fully packed flower chamber of 36? I'm wondering how the yields will be affected when the box is much more full and there is less room per clone to swell up.
TommytheCat
Member
Hey Bro,
From one cab grower to another, I'd like to complement your fantastic micro cab! You really captured the essence of ''compact''. Looks like it produces some fine results as well. You make me a bit jealous.. I am strongly considering building a new cab after looking at this one. I'll get some pictures up of my cabs soon.
Thank you for sharing the details of this cab with us. You put a lot of time, effort, and detail into every aspect of this build. I think this is very helpful for anyone who is interested in growing, and requires a micro setup. Even if they don't require a micro setup.. micro grows are extremely fun!
Thank you for your hard work, and detailed documentation on this cab. Take care my friend.
From one cab grower to another, I'd like to complement your fantastic micro cab! You really captured the essence of ''compact''. Looks like it produces some fine results as well. You make me a bit jealous.. I am strongly considering building a new cab after looking at this one. I'll get some pictures up of my cabs soon.
Thank you for sharing the details of this cab with us. You put a lot of time, effort, and detail into every aspect of this build. I think this is very helpful for anyone who is interested in growing, and requires a micro setup. Even if they don't require a micro setup.. micro grows are extremely fun!
Thank you for your hard work, and detailed documentation on this cab. Take care my friend.
Had computer issues for a couple weeks. Got a temporary work around at the moment.
Answers to recent questions:
My carbon lasts a LONG fucking time. Like, Since I built this thing, I've used less than a gallon of carbon. (The carbon i buy comes in half gallon milk carton-type containers for about $10 per half gallon).
I'm sure there are better ways to build carbon scrubbers, but I built mine to fit the little space I had for it.
The cab does sit in a room that has a fan exhausting the air to the outside through a window. (Just a regular old $12 box fan from wherever) In the full heat of the summer that window gets closed and the room is just being 'ventilated' by my apartment's air conditioning vents.
(In the winter, I plugged up the heat vent in the room the cab is in with towels, cardboard and duct tape so that the temps in the cab didn't go too crazy.)
We keep the thermostat around 70-71. I've dialed my fans back so that the temp inside the cab is in the area of 85 degrees. Some incredibly detailed university study about growing cannabis suggested that 85 is the perfect temperature for cannabis to thrive in.
I've also added (just to see what the results will be) a small fan which sits in the center of the flowering cab and points straight up.
On the subject of cramming 36 plants in... it's a no go, unfortunately. When I get them too close together, they do grow, but my yield per plant drops down from around 8g per plant to 4g per plant. So what I'm currently planning to do is to buy some new pots that are closer to my original containers (which were 1/4 gallon milk cartons, 32 oz). This chamber can hold 25 of those containers and they will give each plant a slightly larger footprint. Twenty five 8g plants will produce more than thirty-six 4g plants.
As it is, I still have a couple of jars of bud curing and plants coming out of the cabinet every couple of weeks. I've been really lazy with my cloning, tending to do many cuts at once and then putting the best of them into the cabinet in groups of 3-6 at a time. This means that some weeks I harvest nothing and some weeks I harvest 6 plants. Not exactly the way I planned it, but I'm not paying anybody for weed and when people smoke mine they say "Damn man! where'd you get this? What'd you pay for it? What's it called? How can I get some?"
I have been making up stories about how I got lucky and came across a great deal from an unknown source. And then I have been smiling to myself that *I* am that unknown source and my shit was FREE.
Peace and Pot, ya'll.
Answers to recent questions:
My carbon lasts a LONG fucking time. Like, Since I built this thing, I've used less than a gallon of carbon. (The carbon i buy comes in half gallon milk carton-type containers for about $10 per half gallon).
I'm sure there are better ways to build carbon scrubbers, but I built mine to fit the little space I had for it.
The cab does sit in a room that has a fan exhausting the air to the outside through a window. (Just a regular old $12 box fan from wherever) In the full heat of the summer that window gets closed and the room is just being 'ventilated' by my apartment's air conditioning vents.
(In the winter, I plugged up the heat vent in the room the cab is in with towels, cardboard and duct tape so that the temps in the cab didn't go too crazy.)
We keep the thermostat around 70-71. I've dialed my fans back so that the temp inside the cab is in the area of 85 degrees. Some incredibly detailed university study about growing cannabis suggested that 85 is the perfect temperature for cannabis to thrive in.
I've also added (just to see what the results will be) a small fan which sits in the center of the flowering cab and points straight up.
On the subject of cramming 36 plants in... it's a no go, unfortunately. When I get them too close together, they do grow, but my yield per plant drops down from around 8g per plant to 4g per plant. So what I'm currently planning to do is to buy some new pots that are closer to my original containers (which were 1/4 gallon milk cartons, 32 oz). This chamber can hold 25 of those containers and they will give each plant a slightly larger footprint. Twenty five 8g plants will produce more than thirty-six 4g plants.
As it is, I still have a couple of jars of bud curing and plants coming out of the cabinet every couple of weeks. I've been really lazy with my cloning, tending to do many cuts at once and then putting the best of them into the cabinet in groups of 3-6 at a time. This means that some weeks I harvest nothing and some weeks I harvest 6 plants. Not exactly the way I planned it, but I'm not paying anybody for weed and when people smoke mine they say "Damn man! where'd you get this? What'd you pay for it? What's it called? How can I get some?"
I have been making up stories about how I got lucky and came across a great deal from an unknown source. And then I have been smiling to myself that *I* am that unknown source and my shit was FREE.
Peace and Pot, ya'll.
T
texsativa
looking good. Thanks for posting up.
hey man excellent job with this cab... i was just wondering if you can provide an up to date shot of the outside of the box, you know like the room how you have it now? i was just wondering how you made it look because if i were to see a big box with a only a portion of the dvds being used for dvds, i would be curious what was going on inside of that box...
im really diggin this stealth design... i really believe if you wanted to, you could get a patent on it and sell it worldwide...
im really diggin this stealth design... i really believe if you wanted to, you could get a patent on it and sell it worldwide...
hey man excellent job with this cab... i was just wondering if you can provide an up to date shot of the outside of the box, you know like the room how you have it now? i was just wondering how you made it look because if i were to see a big box with a only a portion of the dvds being used for dvds, i would be curious what was going on inside of that box...
im really diggin this stealth design... i really believe if you wanted to, you could get a patent on it and sell it worldwide...
It's now completely filled up with CDs, DVDs, spools of CDRs and DVDrs, various knick-knacks and other personal junk. It looks like a cluttered mess. I'll try to remember to take a picture of it for you when I next pull the camera out.
This is a perfect design for a beginner, and the size of the unit can be changed to fit the end user's needs/space requirements.
If you think it's too big as is to go unnoticed, consider separating the two chambers into individual single chamber units and using them as night stands.
If nothing else, I think the ventilation setup of this unit deserves replication. I am contemplating building a new version of this cabinet and making it look even more like store-bought furniture. For those who are less adventurous I'd recommend buying a cabinet, vanity or wardrobe and then modifying the interior to suit your purposes.
I will of course document the build of the new cab when it comes around.
Emperor Herer
Member
Plagiarism is the highest form of praise
Plagiarism is the highest form of praise
Long time listener, first time caller
Hey Auntie Anti... I am, have been and will be
totally blown away with this build and grow. Drunk Uncle Bob stole your ideas and came up with one solution to one small problem.
Hope the pictures come through clear enough. All bought at Lowes for $10.00. Installed in less than an hour. Take off/put back-on- takes less than two minuets.
Drill pilot holes ... ( 'glue' washers in place AFTER placement of hurricane bolts)
The cab these are on already has piano-hinged front drop-down, top piano-hinged top flip-up, with hold-up. The back is easy off to facilitate cleaning.
Love you Auntie
Anti!
Drunk Uncle Bob will do a 'built' thread later... much later.
Till then, he lurks....
The stuff
The end-look, end
The end look, middle
There are three bolts across the top, one on each bottom corner. Five total hurricane bolts...
Hope this helps somebody
PS I would do things different now. I would sink the hurricane bolts in to just 1/4-1/2" out. Flusher. I would use nuts, not wing nuts: I would COUNTER SINK through backing and let the WASHERS take the weight: Biger Bolts... 1/2 - 2/3 - 3/4 " easier to eyeball with old eyes.
Stay cool, stay safe.
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Plagiarism is the highest form of praise
Long time listener, first time caller
Hey Auntie Anti... I am, have been and will be
totally blown away with this build and grow. Drunk Uncle Bob stole your ideas and came up with one solution to one small problem.Hope the pictures come through clear enough. All bought at Lowes for $10.00. Installed in less than an hour. Take off/put back-on- takes less than two minuets.
Drill pilot holes ... ( 'glue' washers in place AFTER placement of hurricane bolts)
The cab these are on already has piano-hinged front drop-down, top piano-hinged top flip-up, with hold-up. The back is easy off to facilitate cleaning.
Love you Auntie
Anti!Drunk Uncle Bob will do a 'built' thread later... much later.
Till then, he lurks....
The stuff
The end-look, end
The end look, middle
There are three bolts across the top, one on each bottom corner. Five total hurricane bolts...
Hope this helps somebody
PS I would do things different now. I would sink the hurricane bolts in to just 1/4-1/2" out. Flusher. I would use nuts, not wing nuts: I would COUNTER SINK through backing and let the WASHERS take the weight: Biger Bolts... 1/2 - 2/3 - 3/4 " easier to eyeball with old eyes.
Stay cool, stay safe.
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Twrex and I have discussed on my thread how to combine my style with your cd rack
That's interesting. I got a hold of some PLL ballasts and I'm just waiting on the bulbs. I'll probably be adding them into my cab and I was debating doing just what you seem to be doing. EXCELLENT!
oldone
Member
you're going to love those PLL's Anti. I have 4 x 55W with good reflectors and they put out an amazing amount of light...
Good Luck,
OO
twrex
Member
Can't wait to see it, your cab was a great inspiration... I think it's a wonderful idea and it was fun to extend the idea in another direction.
u-nah-bomba
Member
Anti, kippis, that is sooo nice
I've been following your thread for a while now and I am planing myslef to do a cab with your design as the backbone of it.
cheers, take care, stay safe and Jah bless
I've been following your thread for a while now and I am planing myslef to do a cab with your design as the backbone of it.
cheers, take care, stay safe and Jah bless
Dankesthours182
New member
wow....scribed.. nice cab. pm me? we should talk.
Dankesthours182
New member
ok, so here's where I'm at. I'm going to build this thing, can anyone tell me if they've had any experience with a co2 addition in a setup like this, and what about your humidity? is it taken care of just by your venting system? there seem to be a few loose ends, but I'm blown away. I'm buying shit online like, probably tonight. need to go indoors, outddoors i'm having raccoon and DEER problems BIG time, no money to be made and no bud to be smoked when these little bastards get going. anyhow, anyone, pm me, or i'll also be following this thread. peace
Yeah, like Twrex just said, adding CO2 you need your fans to be on some kind of timer that shuts the fans off when you inject CO2 and then turns them on again after the plants have had a chance to soak up some of that CO2.
Humidity: Never been an issue for me. In the summer I have my AC on so the room with the cab stays pretty cool and dry. (Temps in the cab hover around the 85 mark, which is supposedly the ideal spot for Cannabis growing overall.)
In the winter, I have the heat blocked from entering the room and an exhaust fan extracting air from the room the cab is in to the outside.
If you plan to build one, I recommend doing a better job with framing or bracing than I did when I built this. It's still an effing tank, but if I was going to build it all over again tomorrow, I'd probably use some kind of 90 degree bracing to make sure that all the corners are square and avoid potential leaks.
And I'd put neodymium (or other magnets) on the door as opposed to screwing it on.
TeaHateSea
Member
Wow. Great job Anti.
This is every bit as epic as Thunderkels and Dr. Buds. I tried a similar grow years ago with a 150HPS in the flower cab and 23-27watt CFL's for veg but my results were no where as impressive as yours.
Thanks for documenting and sharing all the details of your grow.....very inspiring.
This is every bit as epic as Thunderkels and Dr. Buds. I tried a similar grow years ago with a 150HPS in the flower cab and 23-27watt CFL's for veg but my results were no where as impressive as yours.
Thanks for documenting and sharing all the details of your grow.....very inspiring.
Lately I've been toying around with a new cabinet idea:
Step 1: Buy one (or a few) of these for $175:
Step 2: Buy 270 1.5" grodan rockwool cubes (or something similar. Could use hydroton. Even soil.)
Step 3: Root 270 clones (or root 27 clones per week for 10 weeks).
Step 4: The moment they're all rooted, throw the whole thing into 12/12.
Step 5: this is where it gets interesting. The whole plant gets maybe 6-7 inches tall at most. Each plant is nothing but a 6" top.
Step 6: Harvest.
1 gram per plant = 270 grams (9.5 oz.)
2 grams? 540 grams (19 oz.)
3 grams? 810 grams (28.6 oz.)
4 grams? 1080 grams (38.1 oz.)
With one of these, you could either harvest 270 every 10 weeks or so (strain dependent) or harvest 27 a week for 10 weeks. You could probably fit two of these in a cab with similar dimensions to mine. (the fixture above is 47"w, my cab is 48"w.)
The thing i like about the idea:
#1 All of the 270 plants would be within 6-7 inches of the light source, so penetration even at the soil level would be BETTER than the rated output of the lamp.
#2 All of the 270 plants would be tops. No flimsy popcorn.
#3 Would require significantly less height and depth and therefore could be easier camouflaged. Dimensions of the lamp are: 47" x 15" x 2.25". Pretty sure the whole setup including fans, carbon, potential drying chamber could fit in a 4 ft wide, 1.5 ft deep, 2 to 3 ft. tall cabinet.
I've started messing about with it in Sketchup. let'cha see something when there's something to see.
Thoughts?
Step 1: Buy one (or a few) of these for $175:
Step 2: Buy 270 1.5" grodan rockwool cubes (or something similar. Could use hydroton. Even soil.)
Step 3: Root 270 clones (or root 27 clones per week for 10 weeks).
Step 4: The moment they're all rooted, throw the whole thing into 12/12.
Step 5: this is where it gets interesting. The whole plant gets maybe 6-7 inches tall at most. Each plant is nothing but a 6" top.
Step 6: Harvest.
1 gram per plant = 270 grams (9.5 oz.)
2 grams? 540 grams (19 oz.)
3 grams? 810 grams (28.6 oz.)
4 grams? 1080 grams (38.1 oz.)
With one of these, you could either harvest 270 every 10 weeks or so (strain dependent) or harvest 27 a week for 10 weeks. You could probably fit two of these in a cab with similar dimensions to mine. (the fixture above is 47"w, my cab is 48"w.)
The thing i like about the idea:
#1 All of the 270 plants would be within 6-7 inches of the light source, so penetration even at the soil level would be BETTER than the rated output of the lamp.
#2 All of the 270 plants would be tops. No flimsy popcorn.
#3 Would require significantly less height and depth and therefore could be easier camouflaged. Dimensions of the lamp are: 47" x 15" x 2.25". Pretty sure the whole setup including fans, carbon, potential drying chamber could fit in a 4 ft wide, 1.5 ft deep, 2 to 3 ft. tall cabinet.
I've started messing about with it in Sketchup. let'cha see something when there's something to see.
Thoughts?
