Not sure to to make of this? need help

[xmobotx]

can you say, are the roots going out into the mix?

if/when you re-pot/transplant use a base soil mix (no nutes) like if you get a bag of peat and a bag of perlite use 3 pts peat/1 pt perlite or, go ahead and do 2 pts peat 1 pt perlite and 1 pt EWC (your choice)

in the osmotic environment of the soil, the nutes will spread to the base mix much like flushing rarifies the nutes

if the roots aren't going out into your current mix, simply trans the rootball into the base mix leaving the toxic soil behind (yes you want to be careful not to disrupt the roots)

continue w/ another "flush" but less need to water to runoff (although a little runoff is still a good idea)

IF the roots are utilizing your current mix, there's no need to trans (unless you need to go to a bigger pot)

like you say, the plants are growing (so they may just grow out of this) you really want to minimize disruptions unless you NEED to get them out of the soil they are in (i.e. the roots aren't going into it)

BTW, i continue to recommend EWC or compost tea

 

[prineofpottys]

can you say, are the roots going out into the mix?

im pretty sure they are, because of the greener growth and growth spurt when i last transplanted. but i could be wrong.
i used the dr.earth and epsom foliar's as you know. but im pretty sure that much growth
wouldent come from just foliars. again i could be wrong.

one plant of mine, is in a clear container, and roots look very beautiful, filling in the container nicely. i always keep a clear container plant when growing new strains.
i find it helps as a control if per say a mix/nute/bug/root problem arises.
i dont have to disrupt the growing medium, and cause un-wanted stress.
"although im sure the roots hate the light lol"

when my wife gets home, ill have her help me check the roots.
my back hurts and she is getting heavy. "plant not wife lol"

if the roots are not growing into the medium, i will take your advice.
i called my local shop, and they are out of peat. can you believe that?
i always call first, and im glad i did.
long trip, too much traffic for my ole tired ass.

i found this peat: http://www.homedepot.com/Outdoors-G...splay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

and its omri listed, but now-a-days that label dont mean shit.
my only problem is, if i bought that it will be infested with bugs for sure.
the depot around here is horrible about that.
so i will have to go to the local shop anyways, just get some D.E.
i like that stuff so much, plus we put in down on the carpet, and outside around our house to keep the bad critters off our pets in the summer.
works like a charm. i recently read a thread on here, about how its 100% safe and blah blah blah, but people need to realize, dont breathe this shit in lol, not safe if you breathe it in. a local microbrewery use's it, and they always, always got a facemask on.
i go there all the time, and he said he would rather walk in the desert, than breathe in D.E everyday.

but long story short. im gonna take your advice and take a look see.
if the roots dont like the soilmix, I:E not growing well.
i will have to buy some peat/perlite and d.e for the home depot ride-a-longs in the peat.

: and if and when i do have to re-pot, i will flush lightly, and start feeding some EWC tea.
i always feed with tea, for years.
i just stopped because of this problem poking its ugly little head.

xmobotx, you are a great dude. thanks so much for your help in seeing me though.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to xmobotx again

 

[prineofpottys]

i looked at the affected leaves under a microscope.
the rusty/brown spots look almost tanish, very scabby looking. gross.
double checked affected leaves, and non for bugs. zero.
and i got bad news, it seems as if its spreading to my other plants....
so your right about the mix, and consistancy.
i dont know what went wrong, just got a bad batch of pro-mix i guess.
the other stuff i put in, was stuff ive beening using runs and runs ago..
so that is the only consistancy i think.
im gonna listen and just make my own mix for now on.
im just so lazy sometimes..and sore. my work wears me out.
peat/perlite/ewc.
got it.

 

[xmobotx]

so you know, if the roots are diggin into that mix and look white - then your problems are very slight - a couple flush and a balanced feed will probably get you right on track

are you concerned about some kind of virus? (like TMV et al?)

maybe see if you can get some nice clear pics - but it doesn't look so much as act like a viral issue - i still think imbalance/lockout diagnosis is right

 

[prineofpottys]

i was concerned about it
i seen pics online that look pretty similar. but i always wash my hands after using tobacco.
"bad habit, that im trying to quit" and i dont smoke in the room's of our cabinets..
not mention its pretty rare..

we are trying to find our camera cord now lol.
only got a cell at the moment for pics.

i think we've pin pointed the issue.
imbalance/lockout. and i thank u.
and upon seeing the plant in the clear container with the nice white roots, and seeing that
its starting with the yellow spots, i knew right away.

they are still drying out after the last light flush.

after that ill give another light flush.

and feed some ewc tea.

if nothing improves in a week, ill repot in peat/perlite/ewc

hows that sound?

 

[prineofpottys]

i read in your sig thread. about how u once had a hot soil mix, with many ammendments.
and said u cut it with some peat. after mine cooks for a while, i think i may try that.

 

[xmobotx]

i think you are on track man - if those plants should fail its going to be because something is going on no one could fix w/o drastic (i.e. harvest the whole plant as clones) measures *not a recommendation

you can always add but its hard to take nutes away when there's too much or to figure out an imbalance (like flush, feed @ complete weak) thats why i favor a simple base mix and "super soil" type methods

CC's recipe is inspiring too

 

[prineofpottys]

yeah, i have hope man.
plus i got icmag on my side hehe. best site on the web.
makes me miss og, a little less.

and your right on about less is more.
: ive seen cc's mix for quite some time, beautiful.
all those guys ct, cc, cheese, george, suby, von ect...
great minds. great website. great peeps.
i think im just gonna make my own basic mix from now on, and stop buying pro-mix in the future.
k.i.s.s

K+ man

 

[prineofpottys]

i seen that you actually grow veggies, and crops and such.
have you ever checked out http://www.pepperjoe.com?
they have wonderful seeds, and my wife loves there xxx rated tomatoes lol
wonderful selection of peppers, if you love to cook with them like i do.
cooking has always been one of the 3 love's of mine.
wife-ganja-cooking.
last night i made lightly fried tilapia, with a fresh organic lemon sauce.
served with homemade hushpuppys, and a beautiful
homegrown green/red/yellow bell pepper based pasta.
add salt and pepper, a little heavy cream reduced, mix with pasta, saute some onions.
mix together, add 1/2 cup of parmesan cheese, and 2 tbs fresh organic parsley.
equals=happy wife, happy tummys, good vibes.

 

[prineofpottys]

speaking of that, i am so behind in getting my veggies for the year germed.
i got tons of tomatoe's, peppers, herbs i need to get going.

i guess ive just been spoiled as their is a organic homegrown fruit/veggie stand near town.
and gus is a great guy.

 

[xmobotx]

yeah, that pepper joe's is new to me - reminds me of when that little pecker pepper hit the news - lol

i am germ'n some peppers and tomatoes right now and the best of the peppers is going into my OBBT (hoping to work the bugs out of OBBT and get some canna going in it someday) it's getting about time for a succession crop of those (found my yellow pear and green zebra seeds and they will be in the succession)

i got into gardening to learn to grow weed and the gardening kinda stuck although i quit the smoke -but i m hoping for some compassion in the laws soon

love to grow canna

 

[prineofpottys]

yeah lmao. They have some cool colored strains of peppers. cool place.

looks like you've got some work ahead of you, i would love to grow yellow pear. or any fruit.
i usually stick with flowers/veggies/herbs. im not sure why. time involved i guess.

yeah, cannabis is indeed amazing. a very beautiful plant, a miracle in nature as you will.
no microscope needed for sexing. so many uses. i just never talk about it that much anymore.
it upsets me so much seeing such an extraordinary renewable resource going to waste. its so valuable and yet at the same time worthless...
Corperations', lies, politicians, big pharm, tobacco, Textiles, Monsanto,
basically anything in this country that craves money, like a souless machine
is the reason its not used. and its illegal.
i firmly believe and always have
it is something we all should grow, and enjoy. and use.
and the roots are perfect for getting
the soil ready for the crops.
we should incorperate it into our society.
every farm, every field, every window sill
every factory, every article of clothes.
i mean look at the founding fathers?? it was so common then.
and then the corperations...
just like that old USDA video, i think its called hemp for victory or something like that.
hemp for victory, i like that name.
amazing economic stimulator, renuable source.. ect...
not mention my father when going through lung cancer
smoked it, and then ate it.
IT was the ONLY thing that made him eat. the only thing.
IT made him smile, and laugh. not alot, but at least its something.
he told me it did more for him, than any drug the doctors gave.
this coming from a man who quit smoking weed 30 years prior.


i used to be into activism hardcore.. but now ive grown old, well not completely but my body makes it seem that way..and i try to take it easy these days.

anyways, have a good day man. get to germin those veggies, you know i am. hehe

 

[prineofpottys]

check out the bhut jolokia pepper they have for sale, it makes me scared man.
also if you like to cook the paprika pepper is handy dandy.

my father, used to own his own landscaping business. and he loved plants. he had quite the variety of veggies/herbs. not mention some cannabis before i was born hehe.
thats how i learned about nature, and trees and growing food for your family.
successfully lowering your carbon footprint.

i admit the past few years, have been rough and my knee and back are hurting me alot.
ive kinda just skipped my veggies, and such.
my food quality has hurt the most.
i love cooking with fresh herbs and such but grocery stores are no go food quality and flavor.
thank goodness for the veggie stand by my residence.
still not the same "nothing beats compost teas on veggies" but it works for now.
but this year i plan to finally get out there, and mix a little water with sunshine.

 

[xmobotx]

yeah, lol hemp for victory

 

[prineofpottys]

well today the leaves seem to look better, its still drying out from the flush.
we've had alot of rain and humidity is a tad high.
although a little droopy, still looks better than it did.
so we were right about the lockout. the tea i had brewing i used on some conifers.
so im brewing some more right now, in prep for when she dries out.
also tons of roots coming out of the bottom holes, not just tap.
so as soon as i figure this out completely and get it going real good.
im gonna re-pot before budding.

 

[LeenieBean]

hooray )

 

[prineofpottys]

your telling me, ouch the wife is grumpy today. i got to sign out before she beats me.

 

[Bretonston]

have you checked the soil for bugs...? just a thought im plant started have some weird issues and i had root aphids...i dont really notice till flowering..

 

[LeenieBean]

LOL keep the wife happy ) She should be pleased you're going to so much effort to have good ganja for her yucky feeling days.

 

[prineofpottys]

yeah, that was my initial first thought.
bug free.
and oh god root aphids, bet that was horrible.
ive been lucky and only dealt with thrips "spinosad' and gnats.

Leeniebean- yeah, she will be all smiles thats for sure.
she has PCOS, and let me tell you. i try to go fishing for a week.
cannabis is great for PCOS, and any women that have that, should
seriously look into medical cannabis.