Online privacy? There is none.

[qdavid]

I was curious so I read my IP's Privacy notice. Basically it says there is none. They can, and do, read your emails, keep track of sites you visit, pretty much they can do anything their little hearts desire. I was really interested at what level government authority had to be to request your data. I had assumed a judge would have to issue a warrant. Wrong.:

# Legal Matters; Protection of Rights, Property and Interests; Safety.

"We may, without your consent, access and disclose your personal information, any communications sent or received by you, and any other information that we have about you or your account: as may be permitted or required by law, regulation, rule or court order; pursuant to requests from governmental, regulatory or administrative agencies or law enforcement authorities; to establish or exercise our legal rights or defend against legal claims; or to prevent, investigate, identify persons or organizations potentially involved in, or take any action regarding, suspected fraud, violations of our Terms of Service, or activity that appears to us to be illegal or may expose us to legal liability. Additionally, we may disclose your personal information in situations that we believe to be emergencies involving potential threats to the physical safety of any person or property if we believe that your personal information in any way relates to that threat."

And I imagine most IPs are like that. Screw Friday the 13th, now THATS scary. Any government agency, regulatory, or administrative authority can ask for any data, and they will provide it. So Cletus at my local sheriff's office can ask them for it all just because you piss off his cousin Wilbur, and they your IP will give them whatever they ask for. No judge needed. God help us all. I thought I lived in a free society. Seems not so much after all. You might just be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not watching you... because THEY ARE. "Tell me it ain't so Joe." This would seem kinda sorta unconstitutional or somethin'.

"Them fuckin' potheads, always stirin' up shit" says Cletus.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

And I imagine most IPs are like that. Screw Friday the 13th, now THATS scary. Any government agency, regulatory, or administrative authority can ask for any data, and they will provide it.

Perhaps - but keep in mind that your ISP is NOT a goverment agency or a regulatory agency or an administrative agency.

What they ARE is a private business that can set their own rules.

Much like ICMAG - if the moderators delete a post/thread for whatever reason it is NOT a censorship issue. ICMAG, like your ISP is a private entity entitled to a myriad of options on how they want to run their respective companies.

It ain't always about the 'gubmint' or anything else. It's just a business decision that you can choose to avoid by going with an ISP that has business practices more in keeping with your ideals.

HTH

CC

 

[LilHoldem-NB]

Well obama has things in order to be able to shut down the internet in a crisis or for whatever reason he sees fit. He continues to sign executive orders (dictatorship) so who knows anymore what info goes where. The states is a fascist society and every advancing deeper each day.

 

[Harvest]

LOL dictatorship, that funny.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Well obama has things in order to be able to shut down the internet in a crisis or for whatever reason he sees fit. He continues to sign executive orders (dictatorship) so who knows anymore what info goes where. The states is a fascist society and every advancing deeper each day.

LMAO

I'm assuming that you weren't too worried about Landslide Smirk's actions in the area of civil rights, eh?

Then again, he was a 'white boy' so who cares, eh?

LMAO

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[qdavid]

Perhaps - but keep in mind that your ISP is NOT a goverment agency or a regulatory agency or an administrative agency.


CC

I 'spose Coot. Not to cloud the issue or nothin', but I was talking about a request for the data. So I'm not sure I understand your point. But then again, I'm easily confusable anyway.

Edit: I really was just going to let this go and let it get lost in that great nether-world of threads gone by, but his comments have just been nagging me. His use of the word "gubmint", in such context like he did, and then his LMAO comment, just show a condescending, dismissive attitude, and an assumption that he's smarter than everybody else also while relaying that he knows something more than everybody else does, meanwhile not really addressing the issue under discussion. What do they call people who surf around and leave snarky comments but don't discuss? Oh yeah. TROLLS.... To all, please be wary.

 

[qdavid]

bump...y roads?

 

[bh420]

Hacked surfboard modem's can be used for free, anonymous Internet access. I am an information security professional, and this is the only TRUE way to stay anonymous.

To track a hacked cable modem would involve disconnecting hundreds/thousands of paying customers to try and isolate where the signal is coming from. Just not worth it.

You must at least have basic cable TV however for a hacked cable modem to work.

 

[JJScorpio]

This thread doesn't have anything to do with Obama nor any Govt agency, so could we keep that out of it so the message doesn't get lost in the garbage.....

 

[Fuzz420]

Very interesting. I wonder if the ISP charge a fee like the cellular companies when requesting information

 

[bh420]

Very interesting. I wonder if the ISP charge a fee like the cellular companies when requesting information

It depends on the circumstances. Most of the time with cellular and phone providers what makes it such a costly process, is the fact that they are tapping and recording the line.

Due to the protected nature of IP networks and Internet traffic, rerouting all of a user's data through a government agency would be extremely difficult, costly, and possibly damaging to the throughput of the private companies infrastructure.

IT CAN BE DONE... but it is very rare and uncommon.
Most of the time what is done by ISP's is a free service if the govt agency has a subpeona or a warrant... they will identify the OWNER of a particular IP address. They do this by determining the time of the used IP address, then searching through their database for the MAC or Physical Address of the modem that gave out the IP. From their they can determine the subscribers identity.

I have a screen shot of the Road Runner/TW NOC (Network Operations Center) lookup form that a hacker friend whom obtained access a few months before he got arrested.
RIP DS