xmobotx' "true organic" method & discussion
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I think that's one of the first things most people who make the "switch" figure out. The Taste!!! Try telling a chemi grower this when his tounge has been burned of the taste of whatever he's been using. The chemi buds stone you,they yield well,but really....it's the taste and the quality of the smoke when you do organic that changes you forever,it's like your first Grateful Dead show (with Jerry) and it's all over....no going back. Not to mention the moral value of knowing you,your family,and your friends will only be puffing the best of the energy you put into it. etc,etc,etc,etc....
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I probably couldn't find the link but sometime/somewhere I remember reading that for home gardeners it's tomatoes and corn that are at the top of almost everyone's list to grow.
Which pretty much makes sense, i.e. finding a decent ear of sweet corn or a real tomato is pretty much a farmer's market paradigm. At least here in Orygun.
CC
I probably couldn't find the link but sometime/somewhere I remember reading that for home gardeners it's tomatoes and corn that are at the top of almost everyone's list to grow.
Which pretty much makes sense, i.e. finding a decent ear of sweet corn or a real tomato is pretty much a farmer's market paradigm. At least here in Orygun.
CC
I'm pretty fortunate to be situated within reasonable distance to the organic farms that produce the organic produce at the local Farmer's Market....I use the same soil...it kicks ASS!!
tomatos were my "gateway" plant grew out "parks whopper improved" 1st tomato grow ever - yet to get the same results again
which isn't to say i haven't enjoyed some great tomatos - the heirlooms just haven't been mad super plants like those pwi - of course, i have plenty to learn
sure like green zebra though - what a great heirloom
which isn't to say i haven't enjoyed some great tomatos - the heirlooms just haven't been mad super plants like those pwi - of course, i have plenty to learn
sure like green zebra though - what a great heirloom
xmobotx
The Green Zebra variety is my favorite when making a salsa cruda - green instead of red tomatoes. It always blows people away when they taste it. They're expecting a tomatillo flavor but instead get a strong tomato flavor.
CC
The Green Zebra variety is my favorite when making a salsa cruda - green instead of red tomatoes. It always blows people away when they taste it. They're expecting a tomatillo flavor but instead get a strong tomato flavor.
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TexasToker
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Man, it is not just tomatoes. Have you grown your own bell peppers or celery before (and not the mutant Celery Wreck from another post)? Celery and cucumbers are the most noticeable. I grew out some Heirloom Cherokee purple 'maters and man...they were soooooo good.
The taste is ridiculously better. When I was growing up out on an actual farm (sweet potatoes, cotton, soy, wheat, milo, alfalfa, horse, cattle) we grew our own everything in the veggie garden. I never noticed a big difference in store bought until I started growing my own again.
Unfortunately, my grow bed is now covered by an aluminum awning and my back has limited me from moving it to a more sunny side of the place.
I need stronger friends.
C
CT Guy
Thanks for sending me to another site to spend more money
Actually, looking forward to trying out a few different of their seeds, and I wanted to grow the graffiti cauliflower to shock my girlfriend this summer!
yeah tomatos are like the "flagship" though - and those cherokee purple are on my must try list
we're trying to get to where we grow almost everything (of course, it is early spring yet)
here, we need a little awning or something it gets really dry and hot in the summer
hey CT guy - lol @ graffiti cauliflower
Funny thing happened the other day which is a strange coincidence to that last post......
....My girl comes home from the Farmer's Market with a Cherokee purple tomato plant.
....My girl comes home from the Farmer's Market with a Cherokee purple tomato plant.
CT GuyThanks for sending me to another site to spend more money
Actually, looking forward to trying out a few different of their seeds, and I wanted to grow the graffiti cauliflower to shock my girlfriend this summer!
One of their more interesting seed offerings is 'culantro' which is a cousin of 'cilantro' (Chinese Parsley, Corriander, et al). It's widely used in Thai, Malaysian, Vietnamese and Caribbean cuisines.
It looks much like arugula - long leaves about 8-10" in length and about 1-2" at the widest point.
While it has some similar flavor profile as cilantro, it's definitely has a different and unique flavor. It's also very easy to grow and is a good companion plant.
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Protocol11
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I'm really digging your mix.
Couple questions, could you replace the peat with the coco, as peat moss is anti microbial, i don't like using it in organic mixes.
Also, are you treating your mix with benefidial fungi, I didn't see anything in there about it.
If not, you're missing out on a lot. Barring the peat, you have a great mix for soil microbials.
I'ld also suggest some molasses, alfalfa meal and earthworm castings, if available in your area.
Protocol11
You certainly could replace the peat moss with 100% coir. I'm not sure that I agree that peat moss is anti-microbial though.
Earthworm castings (EWC) are 1/3 of my 'compost mix' along with 1/3 thermal compost and 1/3 Alaska humus (aka 'Denali Gold').
Besides alfalfa I add canola seed meal, soybean meal, flaxseed/linseed meal, neem seed meal. All are organic and with the exception of the neem seed meal are organic, non-GMO seed meals.
I inoculate the germination mix that I root my cuttings in with the product from Mycorrhizal Applications so I don't have to do so later when transplanting.
I'm not very big on the molasses deal. A tiny amount in an aerated compost tea (about 1 tsp. per 5 gallons) is the extent of my usage and I don't always do that. Many/most all cannabis growers choose to use far higher amounts for reasons that are somewhat of a mystery to me personally.
HTH
CC
You certainly could replace the peat moss with 100% coir. I'm not sure that I agree that peat moss is anti-microbial though.
Earthworm castings (EWC) are 1/3 of my 'compost mix' along with 1/3 thermal compost and 1/3 Alaska humus (aka 'Denali Gold').
Besides alfalfa I add canola seed meal, soybean meal, flaxseed/linseed meal, neem seed meal. All are organic and with the exception of the neem seed meal are organic, non-GMO seed meals.
I inoculate the germination mix that I root my cuttings in with the product from Mycorrhizal Applications so I don't have to do so later when transplanting.
I'm not very big on the molasses deal. A tiny amount in an aerated compost tea (about 1 tsp. per 5 gallons) is the extent of my usage and I don't always do that. Many/most all cannabis growers choose to use far higher amounts for reasons that are somewhat of a mystery to me personally.
HTH
CC
my understanding is that peat brings some microbes with it
coco is very new to me and i have been trying to integrate it w/ my methods - so far it has been something of a challenge
my corn test went well in the OBBT though - as a potential improvement, i added more coco to that mix (which is essentially a LC/CC/old skool "peat style" (pro-mix type?) but w/ coco instead of peat
w/ the next run (peppers) i will find whether more coco is better
the mix (OBBT) started as 2 pt coco 1 pt EWC 1 pt perlite - this run will be more like 4 pt coco 1 pt EWC 1 pt perlite
amendments are: greensand, kelp meal, dolo lime
feeding is fish emulsion early and hi P bat guano late (prob top dress)
no doubt, this will get alfalfa tea during veg and flower tea during fruit-set
hmmm, maybe i will scrap the fish/bat regime
nah probably alternate or ? (reading the plants)
coco is very new to me and i have been trying to integrate it w/ my methods - so far it has been something of a challenge
my corn test went well in the OBBT though - as a potential improvement, i added more coco to that mix (which is essentially a LC/CC/old skool "peat style" (pro-mix type?) but w/ coco instead of peat
w/ the next run (peppers) i will find whether more coco is better
the mix (OBBT) started as 2 pt coco 1 pt EWC 1 pt perlite - this run will be more like 4 pt coco 1 pt EWC 1 pt perlite
amendments are: greensand, kelp meal, dolo lime
feeding is fish emulsion early and hi P bat guano late (prob top dress)
no doubt, this will get alfalfa tea during veg and flower tea during fruit-set
hmmm, maybe i will scrap the fish/bat regime
nah probably alternate or ? (reading the plants)
