Scrub's PLL Coco Cupboard and Friends
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dammmm dude she looks beautiful. & really healthy too.
If it was my plant I would tie it all down to the screen more. I see lots o spots to tie down at.
I have done that befor and it worked great. just my
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only reason I would tie her down more is cuz I don't see any more room for the buds to grow bigger at the top.
cheese.
If it was my plant I would tie it all down to the screen more. I see lots o spots to tie down at.
I have done that befor and it worked great. just my
.only reason I would tie her down more is cuz I don't see any more room for the buds to grow bigger at the top.
cheese.
lolraymond
Member
Boom, I've had the guy at the lighting store ask me that! Almost all they sell is fluoros and he didn't know 
(btw I still haven't got that info for ya, but I'm still on it)
Thanks muchly Cheese, yeah it's the best plant I've had I still have a few inches to drop it so it's all good. This will be a great test of the penetrative powers of PLL. Here's my take on it - the parent plant is an extremely high yielder in a HPS environment, but it achieves that not by growing huge 1-piece colas, but lots of smaller nugs all along the stem. So if I keep it short above the screen, I've automatically written myself out of a high yield.
I did still fudge it up a bit with the lighting but like I said, it's pretty much how I expected her to look anyway. One option could be to thin out the branches but I will have to sleep on that.
Here's a shot from Hydrosun's PK gallery to demonstrate what I mean about the way it grows: (hope he don't mind, shhhh)
See what I mean? So yeah, hopefully this all goes according to how I see it in my head.
Thanks for your help Ray, I will email that to the guy from the lighting store
(btw I still haven't got that info for ya, but I'm still on it)Thanks muchly Cheese, yeah it's the best plant I've had
I still have a few inches to drop it so it's all good. This will be a great test of the penetrative powers of PLL. Here's my take on it - the parent plant is an extremely high yielder in a HPS environment, but it achieves that not by growing huge 1-piece colas, but lots of smaller nugs all along the stem. So if I keep it short above the screen, I've automatically written myself out of a high yield.I did still fudge it up a bit with the lighting but like I said, it's pretty much how I expected her to look anyway. One option could be to thin out the branches but I will have to sleep on that.
Here's a shot from Hydrosun's PK gallery to demonstrate what I mean about the way it grows: (hope he don't mind, shhhh)
See what I mean? So yeah, hopefully this all goes according to how I see it in my head.
Thanks for your help Ray, I will email that to the guy from the lighting store
CottonMouth
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a kelvin is used to measure the spectrum of light a light gives off.
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daylight bulbs are 5000K (K= kelvin)
those 10000K bulbs are more like blue blue lights for aquariums. They are for penatrating deep into the water so that by the time corals or plants get the light it is more usable for them. It is a little bit of a waste when growing outside of the water but hey the more the merriey I suppose.
For flowering most fluros used are in the 2800 - 3500K, I beleive that a HPS puts out 2100K, and a MH is around 4K. I know you can get MH in the aquarium trade that put out up to 25000K maybe even more. But talk about over kill for indoor plants, imagine the node spacing on a plant with a 25000K 250W MH over it. A normal 3 foot plant would have 1000 nodes, LOL
CM
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daylight bulbs are 5000K (K= kelvin)
those 10000K bulbs are more like blue blue lights for aquariums. They are for penatrating deep into the water so that by the time corals or plants get the light it is more usable for them. It is a little bit of a waste when growing outside of the water but hey the more the merriey I suppose.
For flowering most fluros used are in the 2800 - 3500K, I beleive that a HPS puts out 2100K, and a MH is around 4K. I know you can get MH in the aquarium trade that put out up to 25000K maybe even more. But talk about over kill for indoor plants, imagine the node spacing on a plant with a 25000K 250W MH over it. A normal 3 foot plant would have 1000 nodes, LOL
CM
Looking GREAT Scrub!!
Kelvin is the temperature of the bulb which expresses the exact colour a bulb emits..bulbs with a kelvin temp of 3000 to 6500 are supposedly the best..also the higher the CRI( colour rendering index) the better the bulb..
keep up the awesome work Scrub!!
Kelvin is the temperature of the bulb which expresses the exact colour a bulb emits..bulbs with a kelvin temp of 3000 to 6500 are supposedly the best..also the higher the CRI( colour rendering index) the better the bulb..
keep up the awesome work Scrub!!
sounds good to me
Thanks Scrub for the numbers, I can work with those. I'll just get out my meter see what I come with. It should be easy to figure out once I see what the usages are. Thanks again my friend, I'll let you know what I find.
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feral
DAMN!!!!! nice work 'bro
Okay! It finally got through.
Leda Uno:
10,000k doing it's thing! Like I said it's the stretchiest plant I've ever seen but the nodes seem super tight compared to the PK. I should have had all the bulbs in right through the first few weeks for the PK. Ah well. The 4th light did have a good impact on stopping the PK stretch for the one night it's been in. Temps are fine - top of cab temp is like 78º right now.
PK scrog:
I flipped the orientation so the front is now the back so the other side gets a little 10k love. Soon I'll probably put the 10k in the centre of the 3 bulbs over the scrog.
Thanks for reading, all. No probs GW.
Cottonmouth: it is not a waste at all my good fellow. Just because higher kelvins happen to penetrate further in water has zero relevance to growing plants above ground. I'd like to point out that with 4k and 10k bulb mix I pumped out as much as the guys using more regular kelvins, and guys using specialist plant growing bulbs.
2700k is looked at as the best because it's commonly available and has the most red output of those commonly available. I guess it depends who is looking and what they are looking for. What is your basis for saying 2800 and 3000, respectively, CM & BC?
CRI is nothing to do with growing plants. Not sure why you even mention that, BC. I have a thread on it if you'd like to read up, search for CRI. High CRI means things look clear to the human eye under it. There are high CRI PLLs commonly available....why do you think nobody is using them? The process of achieving a high CRI generally means they lose output.
Just don't want people to get the wrong idea from reading my thread - I don't endorse anything said by other people. Thanks for reading, and genuinely don't mean to sound like a dick, but I probably do anyway.
Cottonmouth: it is not a waste at all my good fellow. Just because higher kelvins happen to penetrate further in water has zero relevance to growing plants above ground. I'd like to point out that with 4k and 10k bulb mix I pumped out as much as the guys using more regular kelvins, and guys using specialist plant growing bulbs.
2700k is looked at as the best because it's commonly available and has the most red output of those commonly available. I guess it depends who is looking and what they are looking for. What is your basis for saying 2800 and 3000, respectively, CM & BC?
CRI is nothing to do with growing plants. Not sure why you even mention that, BC. I have a thread on it if you'd like to read up, search for CRI. High CRI means things look clear to the human eye under it. There are high CRI PLLs commonly available....why do you think nobody is using them? The process of achieving a high CRI generally means they lose output.
Just don't want people to get the wrong idea from reading my thread - I don't endorse anything said by other people. Thanks for reading, and genuinely don't mean to sound like a dick, but I probably do anyway.
No worries man. I edited that post for a long time before posting so it wasn't like, too bitchy, lol. It's just that in the last few days, I've been told:
Getting sick of it, just so you all know. Hopefully you guys see why I'm frustrated. Peace.
- my kelvins are wrong
- my bulb placement is wrong
- h2o2 in coco is wrong
- coco can't be overwatered
- and plenty more.
Getting sick of it, just so you all know. Hopefully you guys see why I'm frustrated. Peace.
I realize this brother scrubz, I was yanking on ya chain just to see what your response would be, bit of joking around between mates is one thing, but everyone should read previous threads and grows from scrubz and realize the man is not a noob!!
But we are all here to learn and share, so duck and weave and roll with the punches Master Scrubz and everyone else remember "No Shoes in the Dojo".
Much Respect Bruz
But we are all here to learn and share, so duck and weave and roll with the punches Master Scrubz and everyone else remember "No Shoes in the Dojo".
Much Respect Bruz
Thank you b00m. Agreed, and point taken. Moving on...
CottonMouth
Member
My bad, I just keep quite and read. Thought I was giving a good explaination of kelvins without being too techy.
CM
ps: Never said that it was a bad idea just that it might be overkill. Sorry scrub, wasn't trying to insult your intelligence, <-- meant sincerly not as a smart ass
CM
ps: Never said that it was a bad idea just that it might be overkill. Sorry scrub, wasn't trying to insult your intelligence, <-- meant sincerly not as a smart ass
Cm. I apologise dude - I feel like a shitbag now, just having a testing time at the moment - not your fault at all. I'll add that this was the only day I didn't follow my golden rule of smoking weed every day (has since been rectified). Thanks for understanding. I'll saunter off for a bit until I have the next update, and please pipe in whenever. 
I was quoting something from Jorge's book...cri's don't mean crap to me ...cri's are good for photography..taking pics are fun...
take care Scrub...great looking plants as usual bro
take care Scrub...great looking plants as usual bro
are they all the same people who think you need 1000w HID to grow period?
lolraymond
Member
Apparently people trying to tell you how to grow your plants haven't truly examined this thread and noticed the pictures! Hahah. If anything, I'd be asking you what to do, not telling. Hahahah.
Hydro's PK looks so bomb. How much do you think you'll be able to pull from yours?
Hydro's PK looks so bomb. How much do you think you'll be able to pull from yours?
Yo, Scrub. Just wanted to pop by and let you know that your Kelvins are all wrong, your bulb placement is whack, and on the subject of h2o2 in coco? What were you thinking?
I bet you can't even pull 5g per plant with a piddling little setup like yours.
PS - Coco can't possibly be over-watered. You could submerge it in your aquarium and it will gleefully remain dry as a bone.
Love ya.
I bet you can't even pull 5g per plant with a piddling little setup like yours.
PS - Coco can't possibly be over-watered. You could submerge it in your aquarium and it will gleefully remain dry as a bone.
Love ya.
